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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 03:57 PM
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Ohio - "Diebold admits mistake but not sure where skewed numbers came from"
FAIRFIELD COUNTY - Diebold Election Systems admits it is to blame for not telling the Fairfield County Board of Elections the right way to count votes for the Nov. 7 election. But the company said it has no idea exactly how the board arrived at its original incorrect tallies.

The Fairfield County Board of Elections followed the wrong procedure for counting votes after Issue 1 was removed from the ballot. The procedural error led to incorrect vote counts and some issues appearing to pass Tuesday afternoon when they did not.

There was no immediate answer Wednesday about where incorrect numbers came from, said Diebold Election Systems spokesman David Bear about why the wrong procedure led to its skewed numbers.

The initial official results were made public around 2 p.m. Tuesday, but a call from the Eagle-Gazette alerted the elections office to an error.
http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061130/NEWS01/611300303

"Elections officials correct procedural tabulation error"

FAIRFIELD COUNTY - The Fairfield County Board of Elections blames Diebold for errors with the first official vote count of the Nov. 7 general election.

Three of the board's four members certified the vote count for the Nov. 7 general election during an emergency meeting Tuesday night. It was the second time Tuesday the count was certified.

After the initial results were made public, at about 2 p.m. Tuesday, the Eagle-Gazette notified the board that it noticed errors in the official count. Board members say they didn't notice a problem before approving the count because they didn't compare the unofficial results to the canvassed vote count.

"I didn't look at it that close," said Board of Elections member Allan Reid.
http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061129/NEWS01/611290326/1002/NEWS17


Of note, I went through the Ohio 2004 recount in this county, and they totally and completed kowtowed to Blackwell and violated all state laws regarding the recount in this county. Of note, there is an online poll on if people in Fairfield County trust electronic voting now, and a resounding 98.6 percent do NOT. Here is my and my and another person's accounting of the disasterous 2004 recount in Fairfield County, Ohio:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=163172&mesg_id=163172
http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78787&Disp=4&Trace=on

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 04:01 PM
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1. Isn't it comforting to know...
The people who count our money and votes don't know what the FUCK they are doing.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 05:04 PM
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2. Sleep Well Tonight My Fellow Citizen
Diebold is on watch! :sarcasm:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 05:11 PM
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3. They know EXACTLY what they're doing
Stealing elections for their GOP bosses.

My proof is that I've used their ATM's thousands of times and they've never made a counting 'mistake'.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:19 PM
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9. That's because ATMs have been thoroughly debugged--
--by being used millions of times a day, 24/7, 365 times a year. Even if Diebold had the best intentions in the world, it is absolutely impossible to ever debug complex hardware and software which is used only a couple of times a year. And I find it absolutely unacceptable for our elections to be beta tests.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 05:17 PM
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4. They Were Using KKKarl Rove's "Math"
silly rabbit
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 07:39 PM
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5. Fairfield Co. violated Ohio law in the 2004, but the Dems apparently sided with Repubs on the issue
Edited on Thu Nov-30-06 07:40 PM by philb
Green Ohio Recount findings:
The following counties were identified as having evidence of fraud or manipulation that could have produced significant differences between official counts and voter intent(or significant efforts to prevent recount team from assessing the validity of vote totals)
Auglaize, Ashland, Coshocton, Cuyahoga, "Fairfield", Fayette, Fulton, Green, Hamilton, Hardin, Hocking, Licking, Lucas, Medina, Mercer, Miami, Monroe, Montgomery, Perry, Putnam, Sandusky, Summit,

Fairfield County Punch cards ***
The 3% sample was not random. the Democratic and Republican board member each selected a precinct to recount. They were Lancaster City 2C and Pickerington C. Pickerington C did not match. 4 votes difference. 2 tabulators used and both failed often. One could not be used.
Recounted and again didn't match. After agreeing that the entire county would be hand counted, they called the SOS and we were told a decision had been made to do another machine count the next day using a new machine to be brought in by the vendor. They also indicated that the recount would be conducted under much more restrictive conditions on the witnesses.
The BOE was informed by the Greens that this was a violation of the recount law.


So if the Greens found that there were clear violations of the law by Fairfield county, why did the Dems collaberate with the Repubs in suppressing a real recount??

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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 07:43 PM
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6. Because Dale Graham and Fred Strawser are old school Dems...weak
Edited on Thu Nov-30-06 07:44 PM by mtnester
and easily led...."no waves" kind of guys.

Neither could look me in the eye after that crap in 2004, and STILL can't.

They both have been there TOO LONG.
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 08:18 PM
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7. It's very clear what the mistake was here.
Buying the damn Diebold machines!
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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:07 PM
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8. "I didn't look at it that close"
Sure, when you are the one responsible for a national election in a democracy why should you be bothered to look at the vote count that closely.
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