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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 10:20 PM Original message |
Death Bed Unity for HCPBs (Hand Counter Paper Ballots) |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. the article misses a very impt fact about HCPB countries |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 12:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Multiple races must be counted with secret vote counting machines |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 01:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. no - I said - countries with HCPB have single contest elections |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 02:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. The Politicians can own the airwaves |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 05:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
68. The GIG IS UP is a beautiful thought. I hope that another |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. What a weird article |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 10:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Opscan is demonstrably better at counting multiple races |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
32. did you have a particular "demonstra(tion)" in mind? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 06:30 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Trying to catch up after 7 days without electricity |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 07:02 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I can definitely afford to wait! |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
22. It is why in one of your MANY threads, I explained how we used to do it in NC |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. how about the wiki thread? |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Clearly, the parliamentary posts are to illustrate |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. That Rady is at it again. >/snark< |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. HCPB now. |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. No thoughts to contribute on how to implement it? |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 10:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. non stop without even thinking |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 09:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
58. Do you live in America? |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 03:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
28. You can read about some good thoughts on how to implement it |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
46. Wow. Interesting. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. Good for Rady! nt |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
11. hand recount in Vermont - 10 days, 265,000 ballots |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-21-06 11:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. You guys don't even care how ridiculous |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 01:14 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Did I touch a nerve? |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 01:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. My answer |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 03:05 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. All due respect to Andy but that is just one man's opinion |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 03:44 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Andy came from a county with 1000+ different ballot formats |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. We could hand count limited races and have two ballots |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. This is the Kucinich bill HR 6200 |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. It is more than "one man's opinion" |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. But audits are hand counts |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 12:29 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Because of the checks and balances, of course |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 12:39 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. But, hold on, this IS done in Canada and elsewhere |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 01:03 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. In Venezuela, that's how they do their audits |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 01:16 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Okay so why not just break it down |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #51 |
65. Small quibble |
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demodonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 07:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. It is my opinion too... |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 01:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Fascinating! |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 01:28 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Ok, I will ask you the same question |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 01:34 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. See post #16. |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 01:43 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Just print it, A, B or C |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:16 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Oh, I see now, you cannot read. |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:34 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. So is it A B or C? |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 03:03 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I had refered you to post #16, without realizing that you evidently cannot count to 16. |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:36 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. And I replied to YOU too. What is with you two? Are you one and the same? |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:57 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I have read your posts with care and extreme interest. |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 06:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. one thing that confused me about your account -- |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
41. Ooh! Pick me! Pick me! |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. OK, I pick you!! A is the correct answer, |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 02:11 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. This is only a A,B,C question, I'm not surprised |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 03:48 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. I answered your question, and now I have one for you |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 03:45 AM Response to Reply #17 |
30. One race--hand count. More than one race--audited opscan. n/t |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 11:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. I don't agree, but, thank you, for your straight forward answer |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 12:35 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. As Febble has pointed out-- |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 01:33 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Febble also picked "A" or Hand Counted Paper Ballots |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 01:40 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. For ONE RACE AT A TIME!!! n/t |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 02:02 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. You got all that, out of this? |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 05:44 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. No, she just |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 05:07 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Sorry, kster |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 05:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. No apology necessary |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-23-06 05:22 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. If my kid's life |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 12:54 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Thats security in and of itself |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 08:05 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. No, I'm not suggesting that |
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EST (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. You have it nailed, tightly. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-25-06 01:45 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Deleted message |
OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-22-06 06:07 AM Response to Reply #11 |
34. well, seriously... |
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In Truth We Trust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
63. Hand Counted Paper Ballots NOW! K&R Good post Kster |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-25-06 02:20 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. I,know, I keep saying twelve year old, but he just turned thirteen |
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