VOTING MACHINE RESISTANCE! Can you guess which state???

[Bill Bored]

Hmmmm. Let's see...is it FLORIDA? They did have a lot of undervotes this year.

Or how about PENNSYLVANIA?

Or that hot bed of voter activism, COL-EE-FOR-NEE-UH?

Or New Hampshire, where HR 550 isn't good enough?

How about VIRGINIA, where they swung the whole US Senate without a paper trail?

Or Maryland? Home of NIST and Johns Hopkins (where they even got to see the Diebold SOURCE CODE)?

Or Washington State -- home of the GREAT LAND SHARK! (Go get 'em JAWS!)

Well if you guessed any of those, you guessed wrong.

Watch and learn people...watch and learn...

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/ny-livote225024897dec22,0,7772406.story

Voting machine resistance
Nassau and Suffolk take aim at state's deadline to replace lever machines by September primaries
BY JAMES T. MADORE
Newsday Staff Writer

December 22, 2006

An insurrection that appears to be building from the counties could unravel plans to replace the state's antiquated lever voting machines in time for the primary elections next September.

Nassau County's legislature and elections board asked a federal judge yesterday to allow them to participate in a lawsuit against New York State that aims to extend into 2009 the deadline for purchasing new machines.

In October, Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy sued in state Supreme Court to overturn an interpretation of state law that calls for all lever voting machines to be scrapped because people in wheelchairs cannot reach the top levers and the blind cannot read the ballot. Levy would rather keep the lever equipment but purchase other machines for the disabled.

Officials in both counties are encouraging their counterparts across the state to join them in court.

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OK, did you guess the answer yet? It was in the excerpt if you were paying attention! I even added a little boldface type.

Another hint: It's the only state in the country that understands HAVA!

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. throwm me a bone here New York

[Melissa G]

2. Well, Of Course New York!...with such fine activists like Bill Bored they are

WAYYY ahead of the rest of us! :hi:

[FogerRox]

3. I used to live in Long Island,

Does that count?

[Bill Bored]

7. That's when you used to be somebody dude! :) nt

[Wilms]

4. Ex-NYer checking in.

:patriot:

:D

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

5. brag brag brag, yada ta yada ta yada

rub it in rub it in.

Frankly, I don't think any other state could have accomplished
what NY did.

I guess that New Yorkers are really smarter, and
faster on their feet.

Well, I am happy for you, and maybe this helps show how
defrauded we have been by HAVA.

But I bet this is making Jim Dickson cry!

[Bill Bored]

8. Actually, we did use some North Carolina laws too!

Like the ones that Diebold wouldn't comply with.:toast:

[Amaryllis]

6. I LOVE this quote! This is mutiny, and about time:

Levy praised the initiative, saying, "We in Suffolk would look very favorably upon joining Nassau in any suit that would delay, if not eliminate, implementation of the Help America Vote Act."

[Senator]

9. Umm...I'd trust nothing in Peter King Country

While refusal to force in Diebolds is great, keep in mind that the "lever machines" are the original DREs.

They have no paper of any kind, let alone a Voter Verified Paper Ballot.

There is no recount. No auditing possible. All you need to do is spin enough counters or rig the central tabulation.

Remember, that's Peter "We'll take care of the counting" King. Those elections will only be fully safeguarded when he's in Leavenworth.

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[Bill Bored]

12. This is nonsense. King country is getting bluer by the day!

There is no computer fraud possible with lever machines. No scalable attacks are possible.

Unless the switch to electronic vote counting is accompanied by a rigorous enough audit of the paper ballots to confirm the results of a close race in a Congressional District, it will be far more risky than lever machines.

Those who may think a paltry 2% or 3% audit can mitigate that risk are sadly mistaken and unfortunately, that includes Rep. Holt at the moment.

Some of us are working to change that, but there is no guarantee we will be successful. In that case, lever machines are the only safe alternative short of hand counted paper ballots. (HCPB is unlikely to happen if we can't even get a decent manual audit protocol.)

One thing about lever machines is that all parties in the election agree they can be trusted. So you don't have losers who are not convinced that they lost fair and square. This perception, even it's not 100% accurate, is valuable and can never be achieved with e-vote counting, unless there are very rigorous audits.

Elections are about the winners being able to convince the losers that they have really lost. There is general agreement on all sides in New York that lever machines can be trusted sufficiently to guarantee that. And they can be openly inspected if there are any doubts. Nothing is really hidden or proprietary.

[Senator]

15. All I said was, levers do not equal confidence...

... and they do equal no possible recount of ballots. Because there are none.

They are not auditable, recountable Voter Verified Paper ballots of record. That is the gold standard.

Non-computer fraud works just as well as computer fraud. It's just harder.

And when I hear that "all parties" who agree include the election thieves, I get even more concerned.

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[Danascot]

10. For those who aren't familiar

Nassau and Suffolk counties make up Long Island. Former Senator Alphose Demato, who set the standard for corruption and lack of ethics prior to the current administration, rose to power on Long Island. They've come a long way, though they still produce pieces of work like Jeanne Pierro who ran against Spitzer and got thoroughly trounced. Long Island also produced Schumer who succeeded Demato.

We're mostly Dems now in the upper levels of state government and I don't think we'll be giving up our lever machines until electronic machines are proven reliable, tamper-proof and produce a paper trail. ... I hope anyway.

[Bill Bored]

13. Pierro is from Westchester, at least now. Is she orginally from the "Gisland?"

[Wilms]

14. You mean "Lawng Gisland".

Foger'll tell ya. :)

[bleever]

11. I like that New York state of mind.

We could call it HAVANT: "Help America Vote Act? No Thanks."


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