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TheNonPanderer Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:36 PM
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I am not a troll and I resent that completely
I like Prince
Im on Prince.org
I like Gnn.tv and im a member on the forum
Im on the able2know forums
I love Mike Malloy
I think Air America is great
I think Fox news is poison
I subscribe to Soul Patrol newsletter
I like Zappa
I like Truthout.org
Im a fan of Stanley Kubrick
I like PBS...
One of my favorite shows is coast to coast am
Im a member of the Prince music club
I love Anime
I think the Swifties lied viciously
I like Keepin up with Appearances
I like Amy Goodmans news program
I like Chuck D
I think Bev Harris is a maverick pioneer
I lost my faith in Mainstream news media long ago
I think the War in Iraq has dire consequences
I believe in Karma
I think Randi Rhodes deserves her own E channel show


But seriously what does that say about people who disagree with somebody just over their own views on why someone conceded a race? I could be mistaken...

But thats how much Rove had me trigger happy on.

Seriously if people want some kind of smokin gun that Im not a troll i'd be glad to oblige. But my god imagine how many people are ridiculed over what they are posted because you have "Sixth sense" of being some "intruder" I'd like to see the number on accuracy.



I have nothing to hide so go ahead n ask what I think about this whole election or my bg or whatever.

Heck this site has my IP. I doubt anyone would troll doin that. But someone like myself I dont care.

Hopefully though people will see that shortly and realize "Damn, he just had a theory why somebody conceded

I found out about this site through Okayplayer.

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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:39 PM
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1. Maybe not. But you've clearly confused DU for >
an online dating service.
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:41 PM
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4. Good Lord----you must be very young or very sensitive------
I can't think of any other reason you would go to this trouble.
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TheNonPanderer Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:49 PM
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13. Its not that
Its because people kept saying Troll in my own thread because I suggested a reason why Kerry conceded was because of A Rovian tactic late in the game.

Im just clarifying it so people when I do post something "LEGIT" People will realize it is authentic and sincere what I am posting.

And I won't have a trail of people saying "TROLL Alert" Hopefully.

Now if you think im a jerk or lamer then thats different. Entitled to your personal views. But branding a freeper or whatever that aint right.But seriously being trigger happy labeling people doesnt work or solve any real purpose .

It just creates a hostility and tension.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 04:10 PM
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27. Perhaps it was because you didn't research a right wing slur
carefully enough. The whole thing started when a Freeper uncovered a 1978 review panel convened by a bunch of rabidly anti-Kerry military guys to review his discharge, which had been an honorable one. The panel found nothing and disbanded without taking any action. The Freepers, never known for sticking to facts, ran with it as some sort of proof that Kerry's discharge 6 years earlier had been less than honorable.

You do have to realize that just before the election, these boards were deluged by a bunch of newbies who were, in fact, right wing trolls. Some people just got hypersensitive.

Personally, I think you just made the mistake of not looking deeply enough into a right wing meme and came to the wrong conclusion because of it. It's certainly not unique to you.

So take a deep breath and go on. Oh, and if you intend a life of being on the right side, better grow a thicker skin. I've got a hide like a rhino...
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life_long_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 06:55 PM
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32. If your user name was "I AM A TROLL"
then maybe I would automatically think you are.
Welcome to DU.
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helnwhls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:39 PM
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2. Welcome!
Good to have ya here!

:hi:
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:40 PM
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3. You don't sound trollish, has someone called you one?
I agree with much you say. Where's the Beef?
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Francesca Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:42 PM
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5. i was accused of being a troll
because I asked what "GD" stood for..........
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Hobbes199 Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:49 PM
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14. OK I'll bite...
What does GD stand for?
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Francesca Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:55 PM
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16. General Discussion
and I am glad I am not the only one who missed the boat on that..
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:57 PM
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18. Grateful Dead, Of Course -- All Non-Trolls Know That!
(Probably means General Discussion Forum)
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Hobbes199 Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 04:02 PM
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20. :-|
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neohippie Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 04:06 PM
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24. LBN must be leftover bandmembers now
LOL, I remember the first time I saw GD, that's what popped into my deadhead too.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 04:03 PM
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23. don't feel bad
I asked what n/t stood for - "no text"
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:45 PM
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6. Stop Apologizing
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 03:47 PM by Tace
Unfortunately, DU has a very large contingent of narrow-minded folk. Just speak your mind. If The Administrators think you're trolling, they'll tombstone you (cut your account).

I for one enjoy and encourage non-politially correct speculations, if they are made with good intentions.

BTW, the Kerry discharge theory doesn't make a lot of sense.

Cheers
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:45 PM
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7. You must have called Kerry , Bush-lite.
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:45 PM
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8. see
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neohippie Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:46 PM
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9. okay alright, just keep posting what you believe or question
Everybody here goes through the same thing, newbies get grilled all the time. I have been here over 2 years but have a really low post count because I used to just lurk and get the latest breaking news.

I came to DU sometime after 9/11 because this was one of the only places where people still question authority, and I felt that there were a lot of intelligent people with insightful commentary. From the early days it was posters like Eloriel and William Pitt, that I admired, for their tenacity and willingness to investigate issues and uncover facts that the you will never see in the mainstream media.

Don't take attacks on your posts personally. You need to realize that online there is no way for people to hear your vocal intonations and things like sarcasm or emotional responses are not conveyed the same way through type.

If you like it here even if you don't agree with other people, then stay, and make sure that your voice is heard. This is still a democracy, well... This is still the DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND!

Welcome to DU!
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:47 PM
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10. Take it with a grain of salt
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 03:48 PM by dbonds
There are many trolls here, and they either overtly or slighly try to discredit or discourage people from the fraud fight. People are on edge because of the long hard fight and the constant trolling. Don't take it personal.

BTW: I am a relative new poster, but been lurking for over a year.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:47 PM
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11. I don't think you are a troll. Kerry's honorable discharge shown here:

see

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/military_records.html

I don't know why Kerry conceded. There are different theories about it.

Welcome to DU.

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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:49 PM
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12. btw I was accused of being a troll once, I just ignored it.
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Gracchi Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:50 PM
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15. Ignore Them
A lot of the longer standing posters are very elitists and think anyone who doesn't have a thousand post is a troll. Even worse, those who don't adamantly support the idea that the election was stolen are all called trolls as well. Just keep posting and hopefully they will grow up (that's what I'm hoping).

Or just give up on DU and focus on Dailykos. They're significantly more mature over there and the discussion is of a far more serious tone.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 04:03 PM
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21. Alot of the newer DU'ers are elitists, too ..
I've been here from the beginning, just don't post unless I feel I have something compelling to say. As 'the guard' has changed, some of the newer people have really exhibited some obnoxious intolerance.

I think I've been called a troll now ... oh, 4 times in the last week alone by the 'new generation elite'.

It would almost be funny if their cocksure and arrogant attitudes weren't so harmful to the site, and in turn, the Democratic Party as a whole.


:hippie:
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Gracchi Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 04:08 PM
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26. Very true
I noticed that a lot of these guys who insist there was fraud don't have very many posts. The same thing is happening over at DailyKos. These people viciously flame you anyone who does believe in fraud. Because of that, all talk of fraud at Kos has esentially died and the posters appear to have come over here.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:56 PM
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17. Good, god. What wordy self-indulgence.
You behave like one of this new generation that expects a medal for showing up.

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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 04:00 PM
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19. I was TOMBSTONED my first time...but it was MY FAULT
I thought this site was created to lure us lefties away from the stolen election of 2000!!! I critized Will Pitt and Matcom cause I thought they were pandering to us to make us stop thinking about the stolen election! You are in good hands, and I hope you survive. Took me a move and a new phone number to be able to get back in!!!

The greatest lessons learned are usually those that are hard learned!

PS...Welcome to DU! :hi:
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 04:03 PM
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22. BTW, I'm A Prince Fan Too
He's an incredibly talented musician.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 04:07 PM
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25. Someone once implied I was a troll because I posted an email
I had received from a Freep and wanted to share the love with DU =) . Funniest part of it is that I'm further left than probably 75% of people I've spoken with on DU. But, because i dared post something sent by a freep, I was a troll.

I don't know why some people are so defensive, but just ignore them, let them rant. The catharsis is good for them.

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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 04:11 PM
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28. Chin up, TheNonPanderer...Don't be Down...
...anyone who likes those silly old British sitcoms is a-okay with me!
Have you seen Faulty Towers with John Cleese, and his then wife, Connie Boothe that airs an hour and a half after Hyacinth's shenanigans?
I LOVE "Faulty Towers"!
Watched it when I was still living in the Netherlands (you know the country? The first one in the world to legalize gay marriage, not just civil unions? Oh...and prostitution...soft drugs...hasjes cakes in coffee houses in Amsterdam...
Now THAT'S a liberal country if you've ever known one!
So liberal, even the Pilgrims fled it! :D
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 04:14 PM
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29. I'm sure it's nothing personal.
There is a strong tendency here to be suspicious of new people with low post counts, especially at this particular time. If you say something that's seen as provocative by some people, they may have the knee jerk response of assuming that you're a troll.

Of course, I haven't seen any of your other posts, so for all I know, you could actually be a troll. If your not, just stick with it, try to be a little sensitive and diplomatic in your posting, and you should be accepted as a member of this community pretty soon.

But please understand that we get many, many trolls here and they are usually caught in their first few dozen posts.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:14 PM
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30. Stop bitching...
Newbie!
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:53 PM
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31. Many people have been rightly and wrongly called trolls.
The subject should have been discussed in the thread where this took place, or you should have alerted a mod.

There was no need to post an entirely new thread all about YOU. Much of the information in the above belongs in the Pop Culture forum.

Grow a hide and post legitimate ideas and discussion. Sooner or later it will become apparent whether you are or are not a troll. Petulance is not going to get much in a community of over 50,000 individuals.
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MileHiStealth Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:01 PM
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33. I love Mike Malloy ???
But do you love Missie Johnson ?
Or is that just " HARD WORK' :) ?
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:09 PM
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34. Kerry would UNconcede in a hearbeat
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 07:10 PM by ailsagirl
if the research shows there has been vote tampering.

Concession is NOT legally binding...

Please read article

http://www.moderateindependent.com/v2i21election.htm
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