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FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:30 AM
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Worming the vote in the Dixiecrat Counties...how to pad numbers
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 12:32 AM by FullCountNotRecount
The debate about whether the total Bush vote is so much higher than what it should be, based on normal registration, exit polls, and past results from these Florida Dixiecrat counties. Yes, these "Dixiecrat" counties may have gone to Bush or Dole in past elections but we need to know if they were used to increase total votes in the state. That is what the point of the auditing the tabulators and ballots is about.

I for one think these counts are significantly higher than they should be.

Like that movie (I think "Hackers") where they hacked into bank accounts across the country and stole a penny from a billon accounts. Here they worm the vote by taking votes here and there where they are not noticed.

Florida is certified. Now comes the challenge phase!
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:41 AM
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1. I think you're right
....from what I know about the South---and that's a bunch----I think you're right.
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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:44 AM
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2. A lot of those counties are showing below 40% turn-out for democrats
This is strange when you compare registered dem voters to rep and turn-out %.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:51 AM
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3. It would be one of the safer places to pad the votes
When anyone asked (as we did), they could point to the history of Dixiecrats and explain it that way. Only by digging deeper would we know the truth. I say we go for it. We're got nothing to lose.
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:57 AM
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4. As I posted earlier, form 2000 to 2004 and 1996 to 2004, 90% of new votes
went to Republicans in Dixie County.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 01:06 AM
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6. I certainly don't believe that the padding of Dixiecrat cos. started now
This has been going on for a while. It wasn't invented in 2004.
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Shalom Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 01:05 AM
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5. Excellent Observation!!!
Padding the votes give plausible deniability if the fraud is discovered.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:08 AM
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7. Certainly makes sense
Can someone do a history of the Dixiecrat counties?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:18 AM
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8. Evidence...
2004
County Bush Kerry
Liberty 1,927 1,070

2000
County Bush Gore
Liberty 1,317 1,018

As you can see, the dixiecrate theory is correct as this county has 70%+ Dem registration. HOWEVER, it does not explain the 600 vote boost (or 46%) for Bush in that county.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:04 AM
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9. WRT Liberty county and dixiecrats and voting historic trends.
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 03:09 AM by bullimiami
Another way of looking at things.

Liberty county has always voted republican but for the last 20 years, until this year, has trended more democratic.

This is a majority 75% white county.

1984 2.17 better than 2:1 rep
1988 2.00 exactly 2:1 rep
1992 2.13 (dem vs rep+perot)
1996 1.48 (dem vs rep+perot)
2000 1.29 in 2000 it was 56% bush
2004 1.8 sudden shift back to rep 64% bush

what changed between 2000 bush v gore and 2004 bush v kerry that netted bush such a strong increase in votes?


This is the historic of repub (or rep+perot) votes vs the democratic.
You can see clearly that this county was inexorably trending more democratic.
But suddenly this year it is approx 50% more republican. This is a pattern all over florida.

As I have been saying either Bush is the great republican candidate that finally reversed a statewide trend toward voting democratic or the count has been tampered with.

This is a very suspicious county.

Of a total of ~3000 votes Instead of 64%, trend would point to rep vote to be closer to 53%
or a difference of approx 330 votes less or around 10% of this small countys total.
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