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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:00 PM
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Why is Kerry Silent?
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 02:06 PM by sabra
A) He is accepting the loss and moving on.
B) Doesn't want to be called Al Gore v2.
C) Has a plan and, and is watching and waiting for the right moment.
D) Believes the "juice isn't worth squeeze" for 2004, and is thinking of 2008.
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:01 PM
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1. c
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 02:02 PM by Goldeneye
i hope...
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:02 PM
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c n/t
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:02 PM
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2. Have you seen this?
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:23 PM
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21. Good one
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:43 PM
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32. Thanks for that link - I had not read that article before, I like
the author's take on the situation. Is this a credible site/source?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:52 PM
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39. Dare we believe this?
Honest to goodness, I couldn't take another disappointment right now.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:02 PM
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3. He's in on the corporate buyout of the USA
I hope I'm wrong.
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faithfull Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:04 PM
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4. Al Gore without the charisma?
GREAT article. I sure hope we're right with option C

:donut:
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:04 PM
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5. i sure dont know.
i have my tiny straw to grasp at though. so c?
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faithfull Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:05 PM
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6. Excepting acception (of Bush)
:donut:
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:07 PM
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10. Thanks :-)
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:06 PM
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7. He's playing charades? Training with the Marcel Marceau academy?
Decided "talkies" are just a passing fad?

NGU.


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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:06 PM
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8. A. He knows Bush won -- by more than 3 million votes. That's why.
The head of the DNC's voter protection program, Vincent Fry, has said that any vote problems were far too limited to have changed the election result.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:09 PM
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11. Nice try. 6 million votes were spoiled - nationwide in 2000 Before Diebold
Someone has to explain to me where the extra 8 million votes since 2000 came to W.
But you are free to worship the "winner"
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:42 PM
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22. Does it matter???
We need Kerry to be our President, Kerry does not need to be our president.

But what would he do that we are not already doing???
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The_Counsel Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:14 PM
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30. "Liberals Still Don't Understand the Electoral College," I See...
The 3 million doesn't matter if you have 270 electoral votes. How hard is this to understand...?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:06 PM
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9. Not a leader, him. Ignore it and it will go bye-bye forever. (democracy)
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:11 PM
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12. He woke up on Nov 3 with a hamster's head in his bed...
and a note that said "I'm making you an offer you can't refuse - that election thing, forget about it, right? - W".

Or some variation of that scenario. Hence the bizarre and inexplicable swiftness of the concession, and the deafening silence.
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NicRic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:13 PM
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13. Hope beyond all hope its C !
How great it would feel for someone anyone to expose to all exactly how corrupt this gang of "higher morals" leading our country down a path of death and destruction for profit really is ! Not just a possible piece of evidence, but clear and undeniable evidence that they purposely fixed the election and that Kerry did indeed win .I want this to happen B/4 12/12 when the election is certified, I want to see if bush will show up to a Kerry inaguration ! Well since the 2000 election,as a devoted Dem ,I have been living a political nightmare, for these revelations to come out and be proved correct ,would make he four year nightmare ,all worth it, if it should have such a decent ending where the good guys win !
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tbuddha Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:16 PM
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14. I think he's waiting for the recount...
Have faith people. Kerry is no wimp and no dummy either. If he hadn't conceded YOU KNOW we would have been bombarded with media about how he is hurting the country in a time of war. He is fighting this election by proxy, which is the smart thing to do. We're still getting a recount in Ohio, and also one in NH which will go a long way to show there was fraud so we can argue that the popular vote count was wrong too.

We need to get back on focus here. There are MAJOR discrepancies in Florida (of course) that Bev is working on. we also need to work on getting a recount in New Mexico and Iowa which were WAY off from the polls and went to Bush. Also worth looking into are Nevada and Colorado. Pennsylvania and North Carolina should be recounted to further establish fraud on the national level though they will definitely remain Kerry and Bush respectively.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:23 PM
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15. Was he relying on Nader and Cobb?
Did he know that they would call for a recount?
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:42 PM
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17. hopeful but naive. Kerry is out. It's up to us.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:33 PM
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16. E)
Doesn't want to open his yap without something definitive to say.

Why do people keep asking the same question, over and over again?
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:58 PM
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18. There have been hundreds of documented violations, questions, errors,
irregularities, and even some criminal allegations.

For him to say nothing in the face of this makes me think A(A).

I really respected John Kerry, but his "let others deal with this if they want" atittude has me extremely frustrated with him. Asking for a recount in Ohio was not a big deal if in fact he wanted to insure every vote counted as he said.

Personally, I think he's burnt out by the negative attacks, and realized after he got into this, it's a lot calmer in the Senate.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:01 PM
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19. Because we don't have an answer...
So all we can do is wonder, and discuss ideas. In addition with every day passing, it's just adding fuel to the fire.
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wrate Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:13 PM
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20. What happens if voter fraud is uncovered AFTER 12/12 (certification) ?
I mean if nothing happens before that date, is it all lost no matter what evidence is found of voter fraud?
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:53 PM
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23. Wild thought: Maybe there is a promise
Cheney's cold will turn worse and Kerry will be VP.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:03 PM
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24. I Take Kerry at His Word
I think he truly believes he lost, and none of the irregularities are big enough to make a difference.

I am hoping a large-bored smoking gun is found to change his mind. Once that happens, he'll wake up.
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:19 PM
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25. Not even close. Be patient
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:35 PM
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26. Problem with patience
If he is not doing something then we need to turn up the heat ourselves. We are running out of time to effect change ourselves. If he is working behind the scenes then we have one level of outrage at the fraud, if he is not then we have to go for broke.
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:38 PM
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27. Jackson and Sharpton should be good gauges
that something is up. They have been so damn quiet its unbelievable. No word from any democrats means to me that everyone has been told to shut the fuck up and be ready when the time comes. What else could thier silence mean?
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:52 PM
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28. It still would be nice if someone would tell us what's up
don't you think?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:46 PM
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38. What's up? Here's what's up
It's a secret, and nobody's s'posed to know...shhhh.
they are gathering the facts, ya know: investigating
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drh Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:54 PM
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29. why is Kerry silent?
I sincerely hope that the answer is "c" rather than "d."
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savetheuniverse Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:27 PM
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31. Kerry has spoken
www.johnkerry.com:grouphug:

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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:54 PM
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33. Actually, he has been speaking.
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 06:55 PM by politicasista
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:22 PM
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35. 45 million left?
huh?
wtf?
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:09 PM
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34. Regarding D)
Holding out for '08...
There's no way I'm supporting Kerry in '08 except as a senate nominee, (I'm from MA, and I still proudly call Kerry my Senator).
I'm looking toward either Hillary or Al...though that might change...
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JoanneNH Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:23 PM
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36. John Kerry broke his silence today
Here's a link to the New England Cable News station.

http://www.boston.com/news/necn/

If you scroll down, there's a link to view a video of part of an interview given this afternoon. I can't see the video because I'm using a Mac, but from the tone of his voice John Kerry sounds very depressed to me. I still wish he hadn't conceded so quickly.
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intelle Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:01 PM
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37. JoanneNH...that link should be a new topic!
I listened to the interview, and it seemed to me (I hope it is not wishful thinking) that Kerry is angry. He also mentioned at least twice that the "votes are not all yet counted". I think the interviewer was placing the wrong spin on his demeanor. Kerry has, I am sure, heard about all the voting irregularities; he knows that Nader is recounting certain precincts in NH; I am sure he knows about Bev and Florida; and I am sure he knows about the proposed recount in Ohio.

If I were him, I would be equally, if not more, angry. I am sure he was advised by the party to gracefully concede. And, on the day he did it, there was no apparent anger. But, this new interview shows a different Kerry...one who is still fighting and who is royally pissed off. I am wondering if he has heard that many of his supporters are angry with him for conceding so early.

Anyway, I think the interview was hopeful...maybe..

Thanks for posting this!
:toast:
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