Bev Harris posts what happened in Volusia County

[Pirate Smile]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2704906

This was over in GD. Has everybody over here already seen it?

"Volusia County election records just got put on lockdown

Dueling lawyers, election officials gnashing teeth, Votergate.tv film crew catching it all.

Here's what happened so far:"

Go to the link, I don't want to copy everything she wrote.

[indy_azcat]

1. thanks for the cross!

n/t

[BlueDog2u]

2. Holy mother of Jesus

Kick! Kick! Kick!

This is going to unravel fast. Read this post, people, read it and weep....or go dancing through the streets. We got pictures of Bev in dumpster....

[tinrobot]

3. Right on...

Very cool... go Bev!

[blitzburgh55]

4. WOW!!

I guess we can all take of our :tinfoilhat:'s Great work Bev. I can hear Cheney huffing and puffing all the way in Pittsburgh.

[IAMREALITY]

5. I have never felt so revitalized in my life!!!!!!!!

Holy Shit!!!!! On Film no less!!!!!! GOD BLESS BEV HARRIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Out the Parasites]

6. I'm floored, but should I be? n/t

[Pirate Smile]

7. kick

[intelle]

8. Kick!!

What amazing news! Caught red-handed!! Thank you Bev!

:kick:

[DELUSIONAL]

9. Thanks for posting this again -- DU moves way to fast

to keep up with everything.

So this is ONE county -- now multiply that by X number and X number of padded votes.

Oh sure bushie really wins by a landslide -- and the moon is made of green cheese.

[Pirate Smile]

15. Well, I found it in GD and I have usually been looking over here so I

figured a lot of very interested people could have missed it.

I've been doing that a lot today. I hate when things get "lost" in the shuffle of all the different forums and there was no doubt everybody wanted to see this.

[Eloriel]

28. Here's one way to keep up with Vote Fraud news you may have

missed:

VOTE FRAUD Links - a DU Compendium
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=201&topic_id=1984#

VOTE FRAUD Links Compendium - Thread #2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x3223

ALSO SEE: VOTE FRAUD? What can we do? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2701028#

[genieroze]

10. The Votergate Tapes

Is it Nixon time? "I'm not a crook"

[Clark2008]

11. So...fess up...

Who has e-mailed this to Keith Olbermann?

He may be in a secure undisclosed location, but I know for a fact he's reading his e-mail.

Keith, dear - if you're reading, please feel free to imbibe alcoholic drinks until 3 a.m., sleep until noon or 1 p.m., take long walks and enjoy you're vacation. All we ask is you spend about an hour of your day reading and researching this and blogging about it so we can keep the Big Mo up. :)

[Pirate Smile]

14. I just saw that it is now up at Daily Kos also.

[jhgatiss]

16. Whats the link there? I didn't see it.

[Pirate Smile]

17. Here is the Daily Kos link but the original from Bev is in the original

post
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/16/19274/790

[Spazito]

18. Bev, Andy and the whole crew are the real patriots, imo!

There are those who sit and talk patriotism and wave the flag, Bev, Andy and the crew are out working their butts off for their country!

An aside, I love your pic! Two of my favorite guys!)

[not fooled]

21. real leaders? a vanishing species

geez, almost forgot what statesmen look like. *sob*

[genieroze]

12. Did anyone e-mail Olbermann?

about this stuff

[TexasChick]

13. And, what about Randi Rhodes? n/t

[Tommymac]

20. I posted it on Randi's Forum

And Mike Malloy too.

Also it is on Common Gound Common Sense -http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/
- one of the new forums established by former members of the deceased JohnKerry.com Forums.

[TexasChick]

23. Thanks, Tommymac! n/t

[NY lib NY]

19. I'd like to see....

the media ignore this!...ugh they probably will

[Cadence]

22. We need to see if someone can get a hold

of the original polling place tapes in some of the contested Ohio counties before they are thrown away or destroyed like what Bev Harris is encountering in Florida.

[CementDude]

24. Bev Harris -VS- Volusia - Round 2?

I've been following the BBV site and was surprised this latest development hasn't been posted there yet. Regardless, I have a couple of questions upon which I hope some can shed some light:

1) I understand Bev Harris has been to Volusia after the 2000 fiasco because of a similar issue:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0310/S00211.htm

quote - "…. faulty 'memory cards' in the machines caused the 16,000-vote disappearance on election night. The glitch was soon fixed,"

At the time it was Precinct 216. Now the problem seems to be "next door" in Precint 215 and may very well be blamed on a "faulty" memory card, as was the excuse in 2000. So my question is, since we're dealing with the same cast of characters over at Valusia, are we (mostly Bev) assuming that they (Volusia's BOE) didn't learn their 2000 lesson and are continuing to commit fraud? If so, why didn't Bev Harris' 2000 fraud audit produce enough evidence to convict someone?

2) To the issue of all these "polling tapes" being found in the trash, with apparently different versions or "sets" of the same data, I found this article:

http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Politics/LocalGov/03AreaHEAD02LOPOL110504.htm

quote - "Post-election 2004 in Volusia County churned into its second day Thursday, with a 228,000-vote recount and concerns about possible voter fraud."

Seems Volusia already did a machine recount of *all* ballots (228,000+ ballots - all precincts) because of a disputed local election. Would this recount produce a new set of tapes? If so, how does this factor into Bev's recent account of what she found.

-- OK, another question --

3) Are Bev Harris's efforts better served at this "scene of the crime" which was a fruitless effort in 2000, or perhaps are her services more needed in Ohio where there is a more likely chance to overturn the electoral votes?

Thanks all!

[BlueDog2u]

25. I'm going to take a wild guess

...probably wrong, but wtf. I'll predict that those extra votes from the Afro-Am precincts on the original, certified tape, turn up on felon lists. I'm basing this on connecting the dots with what Steve Fisher has been saying -- that one of the Florida scams was to get those people off the lists so that their votes could be dummied back in as votes for Bush. Hence, the infamous "cage list."

Call me crazy, call me wild, but based on the information we've now got, I'd say its a pretty good theory. Why else would they have to conceal the certified tapes and go to as much trouble as to provide uncertified and doctored copies of them?

[TexasChick]

29. OMG! That is very plausible! n/t

[Carolab]

30. It's JEFF Fisher and

I concluded the same thing right away--went back to re-read the stuff about the felon lists that Jeb lied about

[BlueDog2u]

42. Oops

Thanks, Carolab.

[drm604]

40. I doubt that those tapes have voter's names on them.

BlueDog2u,
I doubt that those tapes have voter's names on them. But it might be interesting to check the voter signature books (or whatever they use in Florida).

[BlueDog2u]

41. Yes

You are no doubt correct about that. So you would have to check the voter's lists to see if this was the game. But the theory is at least plausible, isn't it?

[Vote4Kerry]

26. Too Late to challenge Florida?

When is the deadline to challenge the state of Florida?

[truehawk]

33. Within 5 days of Certification

[truehawk]

34. Correction 10 days

http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0102/SEC168.HTM&Title=-%3e2000-%3eCh0102-%3eSection%2520168

[truehawk]

35. Of Course in 2000 the Rethugs tried to argue that Florida Courts

Did not have jurisdiction to adjuticate the contest of the Presidential Election.

[jsamuel]

27. GO! BEV! GO!

[fearnobush]

31. Bev's Volusia County post is now up at BBV.

<http://www.blackboxvoting.org/>

[regularjoe]

32. Kick!

[Wordie]

36. Kicking...this is big!

[lamp_shade]

37. kick...

[andino]

38. Please OH please tell me SOMEONE is sending this in to the

major media.....

[mak3cats]

39. Kick!!! (n/t)

[elaineb]

43. Kick

Life in prison is too good for anybody that is implicated in FRAUD. I don't care how partisan someone is, how can someone do something that undermines our entire democracy, and still be able to sleep at night?

:mad:

[tbuddha]

44. the snowball gets bigger

[Kralizec]

45. kick

[faithfull]

46. Ki-Ya!!

have a :donut: