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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 10:00 PM
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----- Original Message -----
From: Rick
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Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:48 PM
Subject: Why does the main stream media fail to cover these storys of possible election fraud and I would go so far to say TREASON by election officials across the nation


Why does the main stream media fail to cover these stories of possible election fraud and I would go so far to say TREASON by election officials across the nation.

From http://www.blackboxvoting.org/dcforum/DCForumID4122/36.html#5

BevHarris Donating member (1000+ posts
Tue Nov-16-04 07:26 PM
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Volusia County election records just got put on lockdown


Dueling lawyers, election officials gnashing teeth, Votergate.tv film crew catching it all.

Here's what happened so far:

Friday Black Box Voting investigators Andy Stephenson and Kathleen Wynne popped in to ask for some records. They were rebuffed by an elections official named Denise. Bev Harris called on the cell phone from investigations in downstate Florida, and told Volusia County Elections Supervisor Deanie Lowe that Black Box Voting would be in to pick up our Nov. 2 Freedom of Information request, or would file for a hand recount. "No, Bev, please don't do that!" she exclaimed. But this is the way it has to be, folks. We didn't back down.

Monday Bev, Andy and Kathleen came in with a film crew and asked for the FOIA request. Deanie Lowe gave it to us with a smile, but I noticed that one item, the polling place tapes, were not copies of the real ones, but instead were new printouts, done on Nov. 15, and not signed by anyone.

I asked to see the real ones, and they told us for "privacy" reasons we can't have copies of the signed ones. I insisted on at least viewing them (although refusing to give us copies of the signatures is not legally defensible, according to our attorney). They said the real ones were in the County Elections warehouse. It was quittin' time and we arranged to come back this morning to review them.

Lana Hires, an employee who gained some notoriety in a Diebold memo, where she asked for an explanation of minus 16,022 votes for Gore, so she wouldn't have to stand there "looking dumb" when the auditor came in, was particularly unhappy about seeing us in the office. She vigorously shook her head when Deanie Lowe suggested we go to the warehouse.

Kathleen Wynne and I showed up at the warehouse at 8:15 this morning. There was Lana Hires looking especially gruff, yet surprised. She ordered us out. Well, we couldn't see why because there she was, with a couple other people, handling the original poll tapes. You know, the ones with the signatures on them. We stepped out and they promptly shut the door behind us.

There was a trash bag on the porch outside the door. I looked into it and what do you know, but there were poll tapes in there. They came out and glared at us. We drove away a small bit, and then videotaped the license plates of the two vehicles marked 'City Council' member. Others came out to glare and soon all doors were slammed.

So, we went and parked behind a bus to see what they would do next. They pulled out some large pylons, which blocked the door. I decided to go look at the garbage some more. Kathleen videotaped this. A man came out and I immediately wrote a public records request for the contents of the garbage bag, which also contained ballots -- real ones, but not filled out.

A brief tug of war occurred, tearing the garbage bag open. We then looked through it, as Pete looked on. He was quite friendly.

We collected various poll tapes and other information and asked if they could copy it for us, for our public records request. "You won't be going anywhere," said Pete. "The deputy is on his way."

Yes, not one but two police cars came up and then two county elections officials, and we all stood around discussing the merits of my public records request.

They finally let us go, about the time our film crew arrived, and we all trooped off to the elections office. There, the plot thickened.

We began to compare the special printouts given to us with the signed polling tapes from election night. Lo and behold, some were missing. We also found some that didn't match. In fact, in one location, precinct 215, an African-American precinct, the votes were off by hundreds, in favor of George W. Bush and other Republicans.

Hmm. Which was right? Our polling tape, specially printed on Nov. 15, without signatures, or theirs, printed on Nov. 2, with up to 8 signatures per tape?

Well, then it became even more interesting. Lana Hires took it upon herself to box up some items from an office, which appeared to contain -- you guessed it -- polling place tapes. She took them to the back of the building and disappeared.

Then, voting integrity advocates from Volusia and Broward, decided now would be a good time to go through the trash at the elections office. Lo and behold, they found all kinds of memos and some polling place tapes, fresh from Volusia elections office.

So, we compared these with the Nov. 2 signed ones and the "special' ones from Nov. 15 given to us, unsigned, and we found several of the MISSING poll tapes. There they were: In the garbage.

So, Kathleen went to the car and got the polling place tapes we had pulled from the warehouse garbage. My my my. There were not only discrepancies, but a polling place tape that was signed by six officials.

This was a bit disturbing, since the employees there told us that bag was destined for the shredder.

By now, a county lawyer had appeared on the scene, suddenly threatening to charge us extra for the time we took looking at the real stuff they had withheld from us in our FOIA. Other lawyers appeared, phoned, people had meetings, Lana glowered at everyone, and someone shut the door in the office holding the GEMS server.

Andy then went to get the GEMS server locked down. He also got the memory cards locked down and secured, much to the dismay of Lana. They were scattered around unsecured in any way before that.

We then all agreed to convene tomorrow morning, to further audit, discuss the hand count that Black Box Voting will require of Volusia County, and of course, it is time to talk about contesting the election in Volusia.

Bev Harris
Executive Director
Black Box Voting

Together with Andy, and Kathleen.

xxxooo




That is just scratching the surface of what could be the biggest scandal in our nations history! You should all be ashamed of your selves we have been telling you about this since the debacle of 2000!



Signed a Retired Sergeant from the Army AND a Blue Star Dad whose Son is on his second tour in Iraq!

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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 10:57 PM
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1. Good work! If they keep hearing from us they will have to pay attention.

:yourock: And a prayer for your son.

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consciousobjector Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:09 PM
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2. Yes,yes,yes!!! If only Bev could be in every county!
Love to see how the media trys to dismiss this one.:bounce:
Bless you sce56 and your son!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:11 PM
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3. Nice, you should feel proud.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:31 PM
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4. Good Work! Great bumper sticker, I want one of those n/t
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:33 PM
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5. Thanks, Sergeant sce56! You rock! :)
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:34 PM
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6. :)
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 11:34 PM by 8_year_nightmare
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:36 PM
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7. Please use these not all are good but most work !
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lthuedk Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:45 PM
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8. The media is part of the problem.
Tax breaks are another name for bribe. Just before Nov. 2, Bushies said there will be more tax breaks. How did you expect the media to act? Did you expect them to NOT adjust exit polls to "fit" the actual?

Get it? They are now going to get paid. Again. Its called bribery.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:22 AM
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10. That is why I posted the address
If we all get down and flood them with emails it will be hard for them to defend their lack of intrest later! Send off all of the stories we have, flood them so they have to listen.....

And thanks to the poster that posted the orignals it took me an hour to get most of the extra data off the list and it was still to long for one email my server rejected it for to manny recipents!!!!!!!!!
PS Don't bother looking for Faux news theirs wound up in the circular fileing cabinet!!!

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thatcoloredfella Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:53 PM
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9. Stay Focused, But Be Patient
This ain't gonna happen overnight, and understand why Kerry needs to steer clear for now!

The non-Conservative media are so scared of getting the Olbermann treatment! John Kerry would bring that on too, if he stepped in right now.

We could not have asked for a better scenario with at least Nader and the Green Party fronting the recount fight in Ohio. Bev at Black Box Voting they can get away with ignoring or intimidating, but not Nader.

BuzzFlash today posted a link to one of my blog entries:

http://thatcoloredfellasweblog.bloghorn.com/305
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