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TimeToGo Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 10:54 PM
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Question on Ohio?
Assuming they recount -- how do they do it?

That is, do they just run the machines again, or do they do a hand count??
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 10:56 PM
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1. I would imagine
they hand count the paper ballots that were machine read. I don't know how they do the e voting since the only records are...well...bs.
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TimeToGo Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 10:56 PM
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2. Yea, that's my fear
so if they stole it once . . .
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:03 PM
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3. I don't think there are all that many DREs in Ohio --
they pulled back a bit from earlier plans. You can check out what voting systems are used any county in the U.S. here:

ElectionLine.org Interactive Map:
http://electionline.org/interactiveMap.jsp?page=Interactive+Map

And, of course, there's a lot more information here:

VOTE FRAUD Links - a DU Compendium
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=201&topic_id=1984#

VOTE FRAUD Links Compendium - Thread #2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x3223

And this thread is worth seeing too:

VOTE FRAUD? What can we do? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2701028#
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:16 PM
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4. Paper ballots are still counted by machines.
I presume they would want to do a hand count of ballots, but I really don't know. Doesn't make much sense to do a machine recount, does it?
Considering the machines are suspect.
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:51 PM
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6. I read they still have a lot of punch cards.
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L84TEA Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:38 PM
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5. Oh I am sure just like they counted them
the first time...

2 for ME... 1 for YOU...
3 FOR ME... NONE FOR YOU...
512 for me... NONE for YOU..oh and. 12 for Nader


:eyes:

Oh and to answer your question...I dunno :(
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:32 AM
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7. Ohio mainly uses punch cards
Most counties in Ohio use punch cards. You know, the familiar hanging chads from Florida. I think the electronic machines just spit out a tally with the same numbers originally submitted, so it's not a real recount. That's why we need a paper trail.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:41 AM
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8. Ho w do you think punch cards are counted?
By the machines. Everything is counted by the machines. Paper ballots are still counted by the machines. The question is, during the recount, will these paper ballots be counted by hand or by the machines?
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:46 AM
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9. don't know but ....
Punch cards always yield more votes the second time through a machine counter. Hanging chads get dislodged.
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