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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:46 AM
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Fraud discovered, Kerry wins, National revote for all other offices
Sound good?
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wantkerryin Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:47 AM
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1. yeah too good
just put a little suga on top. I want it as bad as every other Kerry supporter but it aint happenin'.
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Tommymac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:48 AM
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2. Hey J!
Nice to see your optimistic self here! :toast:
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:50 AM
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5. HEY! Good to see you here too!
:toast: :hi: :headbang:
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Tommymac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:53 AM
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6. time to get the WWF Tag Team working....
:kick:
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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:49 AM
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3. Remember me?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:49 AM
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4. What happens with Volusia County and Florida?
Now that we have seen that fraud took place in one of the largest counties in Florida (at least), can that invalidate Bush as a candidate in that state?

If not, what would happen if other counites show the same fraud?
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rdmccur Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:56 AM
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7. Volusia
Olbermann needs to know about this. Does anyone have his address? Let him know asap
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:58 AM
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11. rdmccur, another DUer has sent it to Keith and Randi Rhodes already.
Oh, and welcome to DU, my friend! :toast:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 06:28 PM
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20. Hi rdmccur!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:56 AM
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8. jsamuel, I don't know. It seems like they would have to uncover a pattern
to disqualify the votes and Bush. So, to your last question, if the other counties show fraud, yes, that would be a pattern and probably will disqualify Bush in some way. Don't know how though. I am so afraid the Repuketards are going to get wind of this and destroy the original tapes of the votes in the other counties. Hopefully, this uncovering of fraud today will lead to a broader investigation of all the counties of Florida and these counties would HAVE TO come up with the original tapes of the tallies of votes.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:27 AM
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14. If he cheated, then he cheated... It shouldn't be "Did he cheat enough?"
If he cheated in that state, then he should be disqualified. That is the way it SHOULD be. I am pretty sure it isn't that way because they would need to directly implicate him for that (not likely at all). But if a pattern is shown, then it would probably disqualify him even if he didn't know about it.

We will see.
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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:04 AM
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12. Could be huge since they are ones that did the primary dig on Gore in 2000
Edited on Wed Nov-17-04 01:11 AM by shuffnew
Seems it could, but can Bev and company get the fraud pushed forward timely enough - before Dec. 13th? Not sure what the legalities and timelines would entail. Since Florida pushed the certification as quickly as possible, it would have to be overturned with the apparent smoking gun found this afternoon.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:28 AM
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15. Have you seen this?
We're talking trash cans and TV crews!
Has DU links to threads for this.

<http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/16/19274/790>
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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:57 AM
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9. "Ohio is still counting votes from 2004"
Edited on Wed Nov-17-04 01:16 AM by shuffnew
I like the answer he gave in this interview:

"In his first extensive interview since his Nov. 2 defeat, Kerry was asked by the Fox News affiliate in Boston about running again in 2008 and reminded the questioner that Ohio is still counting votes from 2004. " I like the answer!

hmmm.... and what about Bev's findings today w/ camera crew and lawyer on the scene in Florida strongly indicating likely fraud coupled with the Ohio counting and Cobb, etc.? More seems to surface daily.

< full text of article follows >:
http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?floc=FF-APO-PLS&idq=/ff/story/0001/20041116/1826956666.htm&photoid=20041109DCEV110
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Plausible Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:58 AM
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10. hi you jk'ers
it's cloudy here.........barely awake
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:13 AM
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13. I wanna see it happen so bad....
But in case it doesn't I have a cool back up plan for us Dems. How about all of us on the East Coast head for the west and leave Jesusland. We would leave a big financial hole and "start a new country up" ,as Michael Stipe says in one of his lyrics. We could have partys all the time, do stem cell research, stamp out hunger, that kind of thing. He'll we could even have a mandate!!! (No gay jokes please) Eventually of course the reds would want to bomb us for having too much fun. We'd have the rest of the world loving us and they would have Jesusworld instead of Disney!!! Who's with me?
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JD Lau Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 03:15 AM
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16. That's what I was thinking during the election...
Those for Kerry should form a line over there...and those for Bush should line up over there. We'd divide up both the deficit and the(if there IS any...) surpluses(maybe a big haha). Then we'd just see which group was the happiest and did the best...or whatever. If the Bush group wanted to continue the war, then they'd have to draw soldiers from their group. We could do stem cell research and continue on with alternative fuels and that line with our group.

I dunno. It still seems like the best answer! No Civil War. No more division between the country. Because we would have done it! It seems like we have still been divided since the CIVIL WAR anyway and it NEVER changes! Sometimes it goes away, and sometimes it really comes to the surface, like now.

Anyway... I'm with ya!:hi:
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Woo Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:12 AM
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19. Never gonna survive...
Without the Red states -- the people in the Blue states would starve in a matter of months or at least those who refuse to live off of pork and beans and vienna sausages --

Without the Blue states... sales of 'How does this damn contraption work for Dummies' will shoot through the roof and they'll find Red Stater's who perished with the phone receiver in hand... after being permanently stuck in limbo when the telephone voice prompt failed to give an option for people with rotary phones --

In other words... WE NEED JESUSLAND -- just as much as JESUSLAND needs us.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 06:31 PM
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21. I cordially invite you all to move to Arizona
and turn the mofo BLUE!!!
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 03:18 AM
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17. I bet Alan Keyes would sign on for that!
"Why didn't the GOP rig it for ME!!!!"

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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 03:47 AM
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18. Dream on, friend.
We'll be lucky to have elections again in '08 or even '06, at this rate.

I mean, actual elections, as opposed to the lie of an election, like this past one. 2000 was the practice session; 04 was the perfection of their scheme... after this, I have to wonder if this country will ever have a fair and accurate election again.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 07:16 PM
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22. Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty we are free at LAST!
:bounce:
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