We might condider buying media time (ads) in selected markets

[John Q. Citizen]

to move forward.


We could start with the 8 hour poll tax, the partisan Sec of States and the known fraud of destroying voter registrations, etc and work up to the statistics of fraud.

[Winamericaback]

1. Not a bad idea

Not a bad idea at all...

I would be willing to help contribute to something like that. The repugs did it all through the 80's and 90's to get their group together. Why can't we do the same thing?

I keep wondering about that, the liberal books talk about all that the christian coalition did to bring their message to their targted audience, why don't the dems do the same thing?!

[lilpnut]

2. GREAT idea! n/t

[oceania]

3. The main media won't cover any of these issues

So buying air time is a great idea.

[newyawker99]

11. Hi oceania!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[oceania]

22. Thank you !! :-) nt

[John Q. Citizen]

4. We need an ad with footage of people in lines in

the rain, voice over - "In America?" Sec of State says "Election went smoothly."

Cattle - Cut to Soviet era bread lines etc.

[Gelliebeans]

5. could one of the non-profit organizations

that were created to investigate irregularities with voting or recounts do a public service announcement for cable???? I don't know much about it:shrug:

[John Q. Citizen]

6. Maybe, but I think we need ads in Ohio in the cities where people

actually waited for hours to vote, and we need to hit the Sec. of state for the mess.

[lostnfound]

7. kick, but the ad needs to tell them what action they can take

A citizen's organization for fair elections for example

[John Q. Citizen]

8. True, like how they get involved with the recount

or in some other action that helps.

[illuminaughty]

9. I was thinking of this tonight

Eloriel said cable airtime is not that expensive. I'm going to propose it at K.C. meeting tonight to try at a local level.

What are the chances we could do this on a national level organized here at DU? MoveOn did it, why not? Those of us who worked for MoveOn in the final days agree that organization is not one of their better skills. So maybe this could be tossed around.

[McCamy Taylor]

10. good idea sounds like a moveon.org style project

[jdog]

12. I tried something new today.

I just got off the phone with a LOCAL reporter whom I called to talk to about these issues. I told him that since the national media is choosing to ignore the situation, I thought perhaps we could get the local media involved. He was very willing to discuss it with me, and said if I was to send him a packet of information he would review it, but that since there have not been problems in my (unfortunately red) state, it's not really something he could address much locally.

Long story short, perhaps this would be something different for us to try: put together a presentation of some of the best links, printed out, call up our LOCAL people, and send them the packets suggesting they try to put something together and maybe even get their national affiliate involved.

It's a thought. I'm just tired of not being able to do anything to make a difference! Thoughts?

[Vincardog]

13. One thing we have to do after showing what is wrong is show them how to it

They can call and write their elected officials and demand:
The Fair election petition:
In the interests of fair elections we demand the following standards be instituted immediately for all electronic Ballot boxes and vote counting machines.

All programming instructions shall be written in open source code. That code shall at all times be available for public inspection and pass independent third party certification for accuracy and reliability. After that certification the code and all hardware shall be secured no changes shall be allowed to the code or the hardware after certification.
The vote shall only be counted after a voter verified paper record of the vote has been created and retained.

All vote records and counts shall be transferred by verifiable physical means. Any CD DVD TAPE or other transfer medium shall be labeled with the counts and a date time stamp. All records and counts shall be reviewed and verified for validity and accuracy.

No modems internet connections or telephone connections will be allowed at any stage of the vote counting process.

[Woo]

14. Interested

Finally -- something I can help with --

I'm a writer(screenplay)
Online editor & Audio engineer(mostly do music videos)

Can work with others on concept -- and editing

Put me in the pile...

[go west young man]

15. Maybe George Soros would be willing to match us

dollar for dollar as he has done other groups. Does anybody have a contact with him?

[ReneB]

19. great. could you contact me if you like?

I am a composing / producing music.
And right now I am working on a "anti bush" song. But that does matter now..

If you would need music, I could compose something for you and give you the license to use it.

icq 14011082
if you ever want to talk :)

[ewulf]

16. We should spend the money on

geting the state by state exit polls from Edison and Mitofsky before we start advertising, in my opinion. We need ~$38,000 for that project, and its important.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=58415&mesg_id=58415

If we had the statistics, we could target our ads better.

[IAMREALITY]

17. Actually, I was Just Thinking Today About This

Know those Mass Coupon Mailers? How bout putting together a case on a double sided ad in one of those Mass Coupon Mailers. You could even have a coupon on the bottom, Election 2004, Buy One Get One Free! Vote For Bush Once, Get a Second Vote Free!

[Starlight]

18. How many people actually read them?

I threw away 2 big packets today, unopened.

[IAMREALITY]

20. Older Ladies, Housewives, and Bored Singles...

Alllll the type of people that like to gossip and spread stories :D

[Hobbes199]

21. It's been suggested...

That we try to nudge the electors to vote their conscience (or not vote at all) after furnishing them with the facts.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=59459#

[symbolman]

23. We've done lots of that..

at Takebackthemedia.com -- with over 50 political attack ads, one of which was one of the 14 finalists in the Bush in 30 seconds contest - our ARMY OF ONE was run 3000 times during the New Hampshire primaries on cable.. I touted it on the Joe Scarborough show MSNBC, etc..

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