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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:07 PM
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About what time should the results be coming in tomorrow?
This is the first Presidential election that I have followed obsessively like this, it looks like tomorrow all I will do is vote, volunteer and be checking DU. Also, are there any reliable polls released of early voters?

thanks
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keta11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:09 PM
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1. You could carry a small pocket radio
and tune into C-SPAN radio. I think they plan to have running commentary.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 06:22 AM
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37. People outside of D.C. aren't gonna have C-SPAN radio
But I think NPR is great for political coverage.

Otherwise, your local news/talker should do. Might even have local races.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:10 PM
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2. After the polls close in those time zones, so around 8pm to 9pm EST
you'll start to get a feel from exit polls. If democracy is to have a good name throughout the world, the election will be called that night around 10pm EST. If we are to look like complete and utter idiots, they'll delay it and embarrass our country further. Hopefully, we get a nice big lead over 1% and we don't have recounts and Bush starts packing!
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:17 PM
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3. embarrass our country further... right - and funny - you are
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 07:51 PM
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15. What exit polls? VNS is no more and no one else is

doing exit polls.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 09:01 PM
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17. the AP is for all the major news orgs
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glocksters4kerry Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:26 PM
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22. good link
thanks
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mrbassman03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 02:24 PM
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51. Too bad the AP is right-wing nutjobs...
:(
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 09:39 PM
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18. I respectfully disagree.
The polls aren't closed on the west coast at 10pm EST. They won't close until 8pm our time. I don't think we look like complete and utter idiots if we don't call the election before a large block of us get to vote.
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lakemonster11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:16 AM
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30. I agree.
I always get irritated when they start calling elections before the west coast gets a say. It's disheartening.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:36 AM
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31. me too
and also irritated by polls and calling the election before the west coast is done voting, thats one of the tools they used to steal it last time. no more election stealing. our big mistake was letting them get away with it in 2000.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:19 PM
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4. Many polls in the East close at 7:00 PM
They usually have results immediately following this time. So tune in and watch the fun.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 09:46 PM
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19. Other than NH, none of the 7pm states are swing states
IN, KY, GA, SC, and VA will all go safely in the Bush column and VT is a gimmie for Kerry. The real fun begins at 7:30 when Ohio closes and at 8:00, when PA, FL, NJ, and MO close their polls.
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March of Time Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:11 AM
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27. VA?
Isn't Kerry up 1 in internal polling?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 09:31 AM
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49. You've seen the internal polling from the Kerry campaign?
:shrug:
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Mr Bojangles Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 02:42 PM
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53. FL closes at 7
7am-7pm are the hours here. ;)
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 03:52 PM
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55. Not in the panhandle
They close 7:00 CST, which is 8:00 EST.
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venus Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 03:12 PM
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54. VA safely in the Bush column? Don't think so.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:21 PM
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5. LIMBAUGH WILL CALL THE RACE FOR BUSH BY 1:00 EST
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:22 PM
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6. the first polls close at 6 PM EST
Here's a schedule I found with all the closing times:

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/INFORMATION/ARTICLES/ElectionNight2004/pe2004elecnighttime.php

Note that the first polls to close are those in the Eastern time zone of Indiana and Kentucky, at 6:00 EST. But the Central time zone polls in those states close at 7 EST, so it'll be then before we hear any results.

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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 04:22 PM
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9. That's so early!
6PM and all done? That's crazy...what about people who work all day?

Polls in NJ are open to 8-9PM for school board elections
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:46 PM
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7. Here's a list.
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:49 PM
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8. I also have a question connected to this.
Can anyone recommend reliable news websites (tv and print) that will be posting updates? I don't live in the US, so I'll be forced to watch Norwegian coverage, which will probably be less biased than most US news, but still.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 05:38 PM
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11. I believe...
that the above website will have "live" updates. Also the guy who runs electoral-vote.com, who is Holland, has said he will update as fast as he can. With the whole world watching, I am sure there will be multiple sites with streaming information!

Hello from Oklahoma!
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:24 AM
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28. Thank you n/t
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 04:51 PM
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10. They can't come soon enough.
Honestly, I'm already a nervous wreck, and I don't know how I can get through the next 24 + hours.
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 09:53 PM
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20. Oh god...
me too.. I haven't slept in two days and I surely won't sleep until after Kerry is referred to as "President Elect John Kerry"
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 05:52 PM
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12. Air America will broadcast through the night
I'll be listening to them + watching The Daily Show
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jeningermany Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:18 PM
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13. I'm so pissed!
I'm stuck over here in the GMT +1 world goddammit. I won't be getting much sleep tomorrow night I guess.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 07:10 PM
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14. Indiana is mostly eastern
some is central. This just goes to prove, that polls that close at 6 and 7 are truly rigged to benefit the ruling wealthy party, why wouldn't there be early voting every where like here in Florida. It's been hectic but it's working, over 2 million votes so far, and I'm banking on the fact that 1.1 million or more are for Kerry!

1 week of voting from 7am to 7pm will get everyone a chance, not this one day crap.

I VOTED & IT FEELS GREAT!!!!!


God bless us
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eggplantparmesan Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 08:12 PM
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16. ha
god doesnt exist and if he did, he wouldn't bless the us
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02645 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:11 PM
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21. FLIP FLOPPING BUSH COULD MEAN A DRAFT
Here's something to think about. Although Bush's got the better tongue and has avoided being called to the carpet on it, Bush's a big flip flopper on military issues, which likely means a draft if he gets reelected and says on his current belligerent course. Seems like the harder Bush asserts something, whether it's about bin Laden or WMD in Iraq, the more likely it is not to come true.

Bush Flip Flop 1. After 9/11 Bush said he wanted bin Laden dead or alive. Then he said he wasn't "that concerned" about bin Laden in March 2002, as recorded by a White House Transcript. Apparently because he wasn't concerned about bin Laden, Bush marched into Iraq before finishing the job of catching bin Laden. Recently, Bush said he never said he wasn't that concerned bin Laden and that he wants bin Laden dead or alive. Bush flip flopped and took his eye off the ball of catching bin Laden, and now even Bush admits it's not a matter of if we will suffer another terrorist attack, but when.

Big Bush Flip Flop 2. Bush promised Congress he would exhaust all available means before going to war with Iraq. Then Bush flip flopped and rushed us into war with Iraq because he said he knew Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Ooopps. Wrong country. No WMD in Iraq. That would be North Korea and Iran. Did Bush ever take responsibility for his flip flop mess that resulted in over 1000 US soldiers lost to date? Of course not. Instead he fired someone else, the head of the CIA. Time to hold the man who admits no mistake accountable for once. Fire Bush.

Big Bush Flip Flop 3 (to come): Hello draft. Just because Bush denies that doesn't mean it's not going to happen. Just like Bush said he wasn't that concerned about bin Laden or Sadam has WMD. Right. What do you believe? The tongue of someone with a history of telling lies like Bush or the reality of our forces being stretched to the bone. If Bush were in the National Guard today he would not be able to run away and waste all the taxpayer's dollars so he could play fighter pilot. He would actually have to serve. As will many others in a draft if Bush gets elected and then flip flops like he has on key military issues before. Will you bet your life or those of your loved ones on Bush or on reality? Are you Red enough to risk your life? Vote responsibly. Vote Kerry.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:40 AM
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33. documents prove the pentagon discussed a draft in feb 2003
Edited on Tue Nov-02-04 04:40 AM by Is It Fascism Yet
and the draft plans they discussed included drafting women, men and women up to and including the age of 34. the plan also includes ways to "target certain groups"

MILITARY – DO YOU FEEL A DRAFT?: This week in the Desert News of Salt Lake City, Donald Rumsfeld wrote "in the time I have served as secretary of defense, the idea of reinstating the draft has never been debated, endorsed, discussed, theorized, pondered or even whispered by anyone in the Bush administration." But the Seattle Post-Intelligencer has obtained documents which indicate the Bush administration "has studied how to expand draft registration to include women, target some civilian work specialties for special attention by the draft and extend the required draft registration age from 25 years old to 34 years." The plans "were discussed at the Pentagon on Feb. 11, 2003, by the chief of the Selective Service System, the federal agency that would operate a draft." The Selective Service System recommended "formation of a government-wide task force 'to examine the feasibility of this proposal' and design efforts 'to market the concept' to congressional lawmakers."
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 12:47 AM
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24. not a surprise -----
your cheap shot remark to my positive comment.

if you don't believe in God, you don't need to insult my good hearted reference with a negative smarmy swipe, I expect and get those from the evangelicals who mock Christian democrats, and please understand the difference between God bless us, and God bless the U.S., it's not that challenging. Surely God blessed the U.S., you're allowed to make cheap shot comments without someone killing you for your arrogance, I call that a blessing, move to Uganda or Pakistan and see how they would react to your behavior.

needless to say, I'm concerned your vote will be tossed due to a misunderstanding of the directions.


God bless us
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:45 AM
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34. oh for fuck's sake
no arguing between the liberals please! we gotta stick together! we are in for a very tough time for a while! we have watch them try to steal another election! don't let them devide and conquer us, let's not argue about god! those who have got god, please keep it to themselves, those who don't got and don't want, keep that to themselves also. thanks. stick together. anybody who is willing to vote our own little Caligula out of office is okay with me.
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NicRic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 07:29 AM
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40. That deserves a big KICK !!
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 09:19 AM
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47. don't worry, he's gone
Username: eggplantparmesan

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chicagojoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 03:04 AM
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29. Elections could be held...
...on Sunday, but the Radical Religious Right would cry about that breaking some kind of "biblical law".
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 02:33 PM
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52. Watch those sneaky repuke hoosiers.
Call 866 687-8683
If Poll Workers refuse you to vote for any reason

If there is a late opening or early closing of a polling place.
If your polling place runs out of ballots or has an incorrect ballot
If you experience poll worker insensitivity or discrimination in the voting process

The civil rights community have set up a toll-free Election Day hotline. This line is
staffed now and, in addition to logging your complaint, the civil rights organizations have law
students and attorneys who can provide assistance on Election Day.

the hotline number is
866 687-8683
202 457-0473 fax
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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 05:35 AM
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36. Me too.
I'm getting up at 2 am. :(
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 09:24 AM
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48. I'm stuck in GMT+9
I figure election returns will have started trickling in from the East Coast by the time I wake up. And tomorrow's a holiday here (in Japan) so I'll have some time to track the returns. But it's going to be very difficult to get any sleep tonight!

Go Kerry!
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 12:23 AM
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23. I hope CNN doesn't fuck up again
They seem to ignore that KY, TN, and IN are in split time zones and start calling victors at 5:00 P.M. CST/6:00 EST. The polls close at 6:00 local time.

CNN has fucked this up for the last 4 elections. Let's see if they do it again.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 12:52 AM
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25. CNN stupidity
unfortunately, I think EVERY single station will try and jump the gun even MORE than before to be the first one to call any states based on the AP reports. It is so frustrating, isn't it? I told my friends in 2000, WHY are they reporting on state victories when voting is still going on in Hawaii & Alaska? I think it'd be fine by me to announce the winner of the election at a lunch time press conference the next day. Everyone could use the rest instead of waiting up for the results til 1am!

I know I'll be exhausted, been to 6 Kerry rallies (1 was Edwards only, rest Kerry/Edwards or Kerry) taking others to see him. Then getting up in a few hours to drive voters or wave signs.


God bless us
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:37 AM
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32. each and every one
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 12:57 AM
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26. I know many do not hold Drudge in high esteem
myself included, but he will probably leak exit poll data throughout the day.

If he has it up there, people would have to be lying to say they are not looking at it.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 07:36 AM
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42. Don't waste your brain-waves.
Drudge and "exit data" are pure unadulterated horsepuckey.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:47 AM
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35. pass the sedatives
omg i am so nervous!
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Tashi Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 07:11 AM
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38. The World is nervous.
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chocolat Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 07:16 AM
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39. gosh i'm so nervous!
this election makes me feel so anxious, my stomach's twitching and I can't eat! anyone else feel the same? :-)

(btw I can't wait for the results!)
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 07:33 AM
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41. I'm on the wrong side of the world, and feeling nervous.
Never has so much been hanging on a presidential election.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:00 AM
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44. John Kerry and John Edwards really are very special people
imagine how nervous we would be if we were them, we are this nervous and we are only us! imagine if we had to face fixing all of Shrub's messes, and with everybody saying, "what's taking so long? I thought you were gonna clean up all of dubya's messes instantly!" and then you can't put it past the Son of a Bush and Karl RavingMad and Big "Go Fuck Yourself" Dick Cheney from doing ANYTHING to stop them. I just hope they have really good Secret Service agents.
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:54 AM
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46. After the stupid way so many Australians voted,
I'm not taking anything for granted.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 07:56 AM
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43. oh yes, oh baby, i haven't even bothered to lie down all night
have to sit up and keep watch over this delicate moment in history, afraid to miss an important development if i close my eyes!
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religiousleft Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:32 AM
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45. Work all day, Work all night--get some rest
no matter how the election goes the work will be hard. We need to be prepared to defend the values we expressed today at the polls.
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:51 AM
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50. you sound like me! LOL
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