Is This the Same Cybernet? Building Raided in Grand Rapids

[AmyCrat]

CyberNET Group building raided in Grand Rapids
http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2578803&nav=0RceTEfz
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(Update, Grand Rapids, November 17, 2004, 5:27 p.m.) Federal officers from about every agency you can name entered The CyberNET Group building on South Division Avenue, south of Fulton Street, in Grand Rapids Wednesday morning.

They seized all electronic data including computers and financial information connected to the company. Federal agents brought in truckloads of equipment, and according to employees, they will likely be here for days collecting information.
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Is this the same CyberNet company talked about related to CalTech and Bay Point?

[MI Cherie]

1. More info ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x60025

[Verve]

2. WOW! Votergate is unfolding right before our very eyes.

Get out the popcorn!

[TexasChick]

3. As long as you promise to share! LOL!! n/t

[dewaldd]

4. There are two Cybernets--it might not be the right one...someone check

The CyberNET on Division in Grand Rapids was the one that the FBI raided: http://www.cybernetengineering.com/ This is an IT company.


It doesn't appear to be the same as the defense industry-linked Cybernet Systems Corporation in Ann Arbor: http://www.cybernet.com/index.html
They even have a page discussing how often they are mistaken for other people: http://www.cybernet.com/info/cybernet.html


Which one is connected to Bay Point?

[vanboggie]

5. Sure sounds like it

Owner has been involved in fraud. International company. Local news just said his name, but I missed it. Computers and data impouded yesterday. I think the local news needs this link.

[Verve]

6. kick!

[AmyCrat]

7. Kick

[Roger_Otip]

8. this is the raided CyberNET

http://www.cybernet-usa.com
it owns a company called Stryon which builds software - type of thing diebold might use: http://www.stryon.com

[mcg]

9. whois on cybernet-usa.com

From networksolutions.com (note the 999 999 9999 phone numbers):

Registrant:
CyberNET Engineering (23238487O)
25 South Division Ave.
Grand Rapids, MI 49503
US
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Domain Name: CYBERNET-USA.COM

Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
Cybernet Engineering (AC9206-ORG)
[e-mail]
25 DIVISION AVE S
GRAND RAPIDS, MI 49503-4229
US
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

[mcg]

10. whois on cybernetengineering.com

Registrant:
CYBERNET ENGINEERING
25 DIVISION AVE S
GRAND RAPIDS, MI 49503-4229
US
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Domain Name: CYBERNETENGINEERING.COM

Administrative Contact :
Cybernet Engineering
[e-mail]
25 DIVISION AVE S
GRAND RAPIDS, MI 49503-4229
US
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Technical Contact :
CYBERNET ENGINEERING
[e-mail]
25 DIVISION AVE S
GRAND RAPIDS, MI 49503-4229
US
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

[kitp]

11. hmmmm

Think I'm off in the blue here but...

a whois on cybernet-usa.com gives this:

cybernet-usa.com = < 208.49.57.3 >

Registrant:
CyberNET Engineering CYBERNET-USA2-DOM
25 South Division Ave.
Grand Rapids MI 49503
US
Domain Name: CYBERNET-USA.COM
Administrative Contact Technical Contact:
Cybernet Engineering [e-mail]

25 DIVISION AVE S
GRAND RAPIDS MI 49503-4229
US
616-913-9000 fax: [phone]
Record expires on 08-Aug-2008.
Record created on 09-Aug-1996.
Database last updated on 18-Nov-2004 23: 32: 21 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1CYBERNET-USACOM 208.50.250.37
DNS2.CYBERNET-USA.COM 208.50.250.50



and a whois on the IP 208.49.57.3 gives this:

208.49.57.3 = < cybernet-usa.com >
network: Class-Name: network
network: ID: 6000.208.49.57.0/24
network: Auth-Area: net.208.49.0.0-16
network: Network-Name: 1939.1939.DCYBE
network: IP-Network: 208.49.57.0/24
network: Organization;I: 1939.DCYBE
network: Tech-Contact;I: 2226.1939.DCYBE
network: Admin-Contact;I: 2226.1939.DCYBE
network: Created: 20030827
network: Updated: 20040409
network: Updated-By: [e-mail]

which seemed to lead me nowhere, however, I did look at glbx.net, not sure what their relationship is as they just updated the record.

This what I got:

Registrant:
Global Crossing GBLX5-DOM
95 N. Fitzhugh Street
Rochester NY 14614-1212
US
Domain Name: GBLX.NET
Administrative Contact Technical Contact:
Global Crossing [e-mail]

95 N. Fitzhugh Street
Rochester NY 14614-1212
US
[phone]
Record expires on 18-Mar-2010.
Record created on 18-Mar-1999.
Database last updated on 18-Nov-2004 23: 43: 24 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
NAME.ROC.GBLX.NET 209.130.187.10
NAME.PHX.GBLX.NET 206.165.6.10
NAME.SNV.GBLX.NET 67.17.215.134
NAME.JFK.GBLX.NET 64.212.106.87
NAME.LON.GBLX.NET 64.215.98.147


Which isn't really much of anything until I googled them and came up with

http://securities.stanford.edu/1019/GX01/

which seemed to be something but I didn't understand it. I also found this:


BUSINESS/FINANCIAL DESK | March 21, 2003, Friday

Pentagon Adviser Is Also Advising Global Crossing

By STEPHEN LABATON (NYT) 1179 words
Late Edition - Final , Section C , Page 1 , Column 5

DISPLAYING FIRST 50 OF 1179 WORDS - Even as he advises the Pentagon on war matters, Richard N. Perle, chairman of the influential Defense Policy Board, has been retained by the telecommunications company Global Crossing to help overcome Defense Department resistance to its proposed sale to a foreign firm, Mr. Perle and lawyers involved in the case...


Anyway...probably nothing...just got a chill when I wandered into this article.

[mcg]

12. Global Crossing is telecom, their IP provider it looks like, a caveat ...

... so far I haven't seen a tie-in to the election. There are many different companies whose names start with Cybernet.

[kitp]

13. 10Q

[HeeBGBz]

14. This is the building that was raided

CyberNet is in all four floors

http://www.heartsidemainstreet.org/tour.php?area_id=2&property_id=30

http://www.mlive.com/news/muchronicle/index.ssf?/base/news-3/110079456740490.xml

[AmyCrat]

15. appears to be same company

on BBV:

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&omm=0&om=56&forum=DCForumID4122
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In the allegations report, a certain vendor described that such a network company was financing the operation through Mel Sembler and a few other bad eggs connected to the head of the game map. Another company was described as giving source to certain code.....Turns out CyberN is indeed an open source code distributor to several organizations, ultimately not even limited to voting companies. Also turns out an employee named Guitterez works(or had worked) there and created actual databases for elections across the USA and easily the globe, that are certainly not MS Access.

http://engrm.com/personnel/gutierrez-alan/experiential.html

Also interestingly enough, the state and F.B.I just barely seized CyberNET Ventures Inc capital in Michigan state for all of its computer systems. Every single last one, in one large effort, and refused to state why they had them seized and impounded.
---<snip>

Appears it is the same company!

[kerry2win]

16. this is sounding bigger than I could ever imagine.

sit back (help out however you can) and watch history unfold , thanks to all the fine people on this site along with 3rd party candidates and Bev Harris. It could be bigger than Watergate.

[Blue in the face]

17. Big Kick!!!

[Bozos for Bush]

18. THERE IS NO CONNECTION! Wrong Cybernet

Yet another thread that needs to be shut down.

CyberNET Group is not the same as Cybernet Systems, or Cybernet Software, or Cybernet Services, or Cybernet Ventures.

A poster by the name of Auditors at BBV, who also posts as Activisms at commoncausecommonsense started all this crap.

A thorough review of his so called evidence shows that he has no evidence, and has been merely having fun sending people off on wild goosechases.

John

[BlueDog2u]

19. Cyberco

is the parent company of both the Cybernet Group and Cybernet Engineering.

http://www.mlive.com/news/grpress/index.ssf?/base/news-18/1100879201270270.xml

Stryon is the programming and web services arm of the CyberNET Group

http://www.halcyonsoft.com/

[GingerSnaps]

20. Do you mean CyberNet?

:shrug: