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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:31 AM
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Scholars on the votes, Ohio Undervotes (Keith Olbermann) - GREAT BLOG!
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/

SECURE UNDISCLOSED LOCATION - We return to Academic Dueling In Our Time, already in progress.

A UC Berkeley sociology professor, director of his school’s survey research center, is scheduled to conduct a news conference at 1 PM ET today at which his “research team” will report that “irregularities associated with electronic voting machines may have awarded 130,000-260,000 or more excess votes” to President


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As the Ohio recount nears, the number of hotspots continues to multiply. You are aware of the remarkable late night voting lines throughout the state, and the mysterious Glitch of Youngstown which initially registered negative 25,000,000 votes. There is the Gahanna machine which gave one presidential candidate 4,000 extra votes in a community of 600. And the farcical “walling off” of the vote counting in Warren County, because the county head of security was told face-to-face of an FBI terrorism warning there - except the FBI says it didn’t issue any terrorism warnings there.


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It's getting interesting...

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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:35 AM
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1. Sorry for the dupe...
I posted the same time as the other thread... In anycase it's a great report!
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:40 AM
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3. That's Great -- I Hadn't Seen it Yet
Even if those undervotes are never counted, this finding does something very important: Gives a very clear example of another irregularity.

Exit polls and Florida Dixiecrats are subject to debate: THIS is clear cut.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:39 AM
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2. oh boy! oh boy! oh boy! national coverage for Berkley!
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recovering democrat Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:49 AM
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4. the most interesting Olbermann observation
Oh and by the way: how come the “Kerry’s winning” part of the election night exit polling is presumed to have been wrong, or tampered with, but the “Moral Values” part of the same polling is graded flawless, and marks the dawn of a new American century?

He just keeps on making sense!

:think:
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:06 AM
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5. Good point ( nt)
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:12 AM
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6. There was a report a couple of days ago....
Indiana I believe....where if a person voted straight ticket Democrat and then selected a vote for a multi-whatever it's called the Democrat choices were not recorded thus causing an undervote.

At the time, I speculated if it was an error in the state reporting the error it was probably an error in other states with the same equipment/version level and similar candidate structure. It seems to me that I've seen a fairly high percent of undervotes in a few states. I think all states with the same equipment should check thier undervotes.
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Dolphyn Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:08 PM
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7. You mean the straight-ticket voting problems?
You're probably talking about one of these stories:

Democrat "straight tickets" counted as libertarian:
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/news/local/10164008.htm

Voting machines in 15 Indiana counties are programmed improperly and may yield incorrect vote totals in county council races
http://www.indystar.com/articles/1/191246-7751-098.html

(Geez, I hadn't even seen that second story until today.)
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