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GrapplerHK Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:02 PM
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Today's Story from Volusia County Paper
Watchdog group requests Volusia vote tallies

By CHRISTINE GIRARDIN
Staff Writer

Last update: November 18, 2004


DELAND -- An activist group investigating possible irregularities in the Nov. 2 election requested copies of all Volusia County voter tallies Wednesday.

It took county elections employees most of the day to complete the job, started at the request of Bev Harris of Black Box Voting.

The watchdog organization, based in Seattle, is gathering similar records from at least three other counties around Florida -- information that may lead to an election challenge, Harris said.

Harris also wants to examine each ballot from up to 50 precincts in Volusia County, to see whether election totals match voter tallies on polling place tapes.

It is these receipt-like documents that Harris sought copies of Wednesday. However, by 6 p.m., after the office had closed, Harris had not returned to pick up the copies, Elections Supervisor Deanie Lowe said.

The documents show a printed record of each ballot fed into 179 optical scanning machines used in the election.

Harris went to the Department of Elections' warehouse on State Road 44 in DeLand on Tuesday to inspect original Nov. 2 polling place tapes, after being given a set of reprints dated Nov. 15. While there, Harris saw Nov. 2 polling place tapes in a garbage bag, heightening her concern about the integrity of voting records.


Lowe confirmed Wednesday some backup copies of tapes from the Nov. 2 election were destined for the shredder. She added that originals were still available for Harris, or anyone else, to see. It is those polling place tapes that were copied and provided Wednesday to Black Box Voting for about $125.

'She's not wanting to listen to an explanation. She has her own ideas," Lowe said of Harris.

Lowe said to provide a backup voting record, she routinely asks poll workers to print two polling place tapes on election night. One tape is delivered in one car along with the ballots and a memory card. The backup tape is delivered to the elections office in a second car. Poll workers sign both copies of the tapes, Lowe said.

Harris said she's concerned the tallies might not match up with voter ballots or the memory cards used in the optical scanning machines. She declined to identify which precinct ballots she wants to examine and what led her to choose those precincts, but said many appear to be in minority-dominated precincts.

"I won't give out everything until I've documented it, and with other sources," said Harris, a long-standing critic of electronic voting systems and author of a book about the role they played in the 2000 election. She said her group is looking at election results nationwide.

Harris said she chose to pull records in Volusia County, in part, due to an Election Office computer glitch in 2000 that subtracted 16,000 votes from Democratic candidate Al Gore.

Lowe said Florida law allows anyone to inspect election ballots, as long as they pay for the time it takes Election Office employees to go through the process. Lowe said she did not know how much that might cost Wednesday because she doesn't know yet which precincts Harris may want examined. Each precinct can have 600 to 3,000 voters, Lowe said.

By the end of business Wednesday, Black Box Voting had not submitted a written request to examine individual ballots.

christine.girardin@news-jrnl.com


http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Local/03AreaWEST04EPOL111804.htm
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:05 PM
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1. An Activist Group?
Sounds one step away from Insurgents
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JD Lau Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:05 PM
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2. 'She's not wanting to listen to an explanation. She has her own ideas," Lo
THANK YOU, BEV!!!!
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:11 PM
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3. God knows we can't have any of them 'free thinkin' liberals'.......
.......offerin' up alternative explanations! :evilgrin:
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shivan Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:11 PM
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4. Interesting Spinning
No records should ever be shredded regardless of the reason.

Bev's account was a bit different than reported here. Luckily, Bev has film. I can't wait until we get to see it.
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Critical Thinker Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:55 PM
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9. spinning like a top...
"Lowe said to provide a backup voting record, she routinely asks poll workers to print two polling place tapes on election night. One tape is delivered in one car along with the ballots and a memory card. The backup tape is delivered to the elections office in a second car. Poll workers sign both copies of the tapes, Lowe said."

Sooooo, Lowe explains that the tapes in the trash were only "backup tapes", but doesn't the admission of two sets of tapes lead to suspicion that two sets of books are being kept (one actual, one manipulated) ???
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 06:49 PM
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15. Plus, the duplicates had SIGNATURES?! doesn't sound righ to me
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:10 PM
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10. You're Right! If WE Have to Keep Income Tax Returns for Up to 5...
...years just in case the IRS comes a-auditing, then why in the hell can Elections shred vitally important records just two weeks after an election???
Apparently, voters are less important than our taxes--but then again, our taxes pay for corporate welfare, and they want as much outta ya as they can squeeze!
Forget our voices--Hand over our bucks!
Can someone say "New-style slavery"?
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 06:36 PM
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13. Hi shivan!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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GrapplerHK Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:17 PM
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5. Not a very friendly report
Doesnt seem to give Bev much credibility, does it?
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:42 PM
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6. Yeah, but they didn't interview Bev...
So it's really not a balanced article, is it?
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jhgatiss Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:45 PM
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8. Well... There's the Votergate Folks
Don't forget that the documentary film crew was there so what happened will speak for itself when we get to see that :)
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:45 PM
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7. Does anybody know
By the end of business Wednesday, Black Box Voting had not submitted a written request to examine individual ballots.

1) If this is true
2) If true, why?
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indigo11153 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 06:48 PM
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14. I am with you Nederland
This is what I want to know too!
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:12 PM
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11. maybe bev should tell the paper they have film that tells a different ...
story. the EL are lying morons.
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