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Sat Nov-20-04 03:05 PM
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Poll question: Jeff Fisher: Hero or loon? |
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I don't mean to be disrespectul of Fisher's efforts with this poll. I am just wondering what other people think, because I really don't know what to think. This story is so crazy, but it does seem to make sense at some level.
So what do you think? Comments are appreciated!
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:06 PM
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1. I think he may be a Loony Hero in the end. n/t |
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:09 PM
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But I agree with IAMR. These are not mutually exclusive propositions. The flatfoot who solves the murder mystery is usually some dumbfuck with clay feet who does really stupid things but wins out in the end precisely because he's a marginal man, a bit crazy, who won't be intimidated by the evil powers of the empire.
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:11 PM
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Playing the aloof, somewhat crazy detective that really has everything figred out after all?
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:27 PM
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12. People are people, warts and all |
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More likely that the truth of something like this begins on the margins. And for those who say that this is a Rove story, I don't really believe it. There are too many real Bush family fingerprints all over it. It would be a bad move for Rove.
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Sat Nov-20-04 05:06 PM
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19. Yeah, like Paul Newman's character in that great movie, |
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The Verdict. He was an old,down and out, alchoholic, f**k-up of a lawyer but he uncovered a really dastardly malpractice case at a hospital.
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Sat Nov-20-04 05:27 PM
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20. It's time to stop attacking those who are helping us & kick out freepers |
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Jeff's information was very valuable. But, there are people at DU (mostly freeper infiltrators) who like to tear down anyone on our side. "Oh no. He says the Dems won Florida. He must be crazy." "Oh, no. She filed a complaint against Bush. She must be crazy." "Oh no. He's standing up for our rights. Let's crucify him."
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Sat Nov-20-04 06:14 PM
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21. I'm Not A Freeper Genius, And This Guy Could Well Be A Patsy |
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set up with correct information but in forms that could ultimately end up discrediting the work of others.
Think Dan Rather and the Memo someone set him up with... the info on the Memo was real... but the Memo itself might have been forged.
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:08 PM
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2. not for sure at this moment and time |
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:08 PM
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3. A lot of republicans on the Advisory Board for Bay Point School |
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Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 03:09 PM by Goldeneye
Its "special" that they all care about rehabilitating those kids, but you gotta wonder if their is more to it than that.
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:15 PM
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Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 03:16 PM by Woo
Ya know with Republicans screaming about Democrats and their social programs -- welfare whores; victims of the system and what not -- The Bay Point School really doesn't seem like a very 'Republican' thing to support -- but what do I know...
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:10 PM
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One part of me wants to believe that he's legit...but the rational, grown-up instincts in me are screeming BULLSHIT!
I don't know what to believe....just have to wait.
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:14 PM
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7. maybe the Us should use DU's voting system |
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:15 PM
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8. can't judge him without the evidence |
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I give him credit for standing up to the republicans without being intimidated. He's a good role model for that, no matter what happens.
The evidence hasn't been released, so it's premature to jump on the bandwagon or disown him. However, I'm sure the gist of what he's saying (widespread organized election rigging) is closer to the truth than anything we've heard from the administration (elections went off without a hitch) or the mainsteam media (Bush has a mandate, won on morals).
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:28 PM
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"the gist of what he's saying (widespread organized election rigging) is closer to the truth than anything we've heard from the administration (elections went off without a hitch) or the mainsteam media (Bush has a mandate, won on morals)."
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:15 PM
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9. Has It Ever Been Put to Pen, that Fact is Stranger than Fiction? |
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For some reason, I do believe we should give Jeff Fisher's scary story some degree of the benefit of the doubt.
I don't put it past the repugnants, that what he alleges just might be true, although I wish I could be as ignorant as one can be, and brush it all off as "conspiracy theory" because face it...it's all so frightening to read about.
Then again, common sense seeps through my in-denial brain, when it comes to realizing, and I ask myself, that grabbing power of the most powerful country in the world, these shady figures in the neo-fascist right-wing of the Republican Party would hesitate to eliminate any person, place or thing in their way?
Wellstone, who was up for reelection, comes to mind, but Carnahan as well, since AshKKKroft was running against him.
Coincidence?
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:30 PM
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To me, is one of the most bizarre "coincidences" in recent American history. Right up there with Athan Gibbs, founder of TruVote, dying in a car crash. ok, I know I'm wearing my tinfoil hat. It keeps the rain away.
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Sat Nov-20-04 06:23 PM
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22. No Bluedo2u...We're Adding Up Coincidences... |
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..so we're not tin foil hat wearing "conspiracy theorists"--yet--but rather, as another ingenius DUer had once posted, "Coincidence Theorists" at the moment. :D
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:30 PM
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To me, is one of the most bizarre "coincidences" in recent American history. Right up there with Athan Gibbs, founder of TruVote, dying in a car crash. ok, I know I'm wearing my tinfoil hat. It keeps the rain away.
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:31 PM
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16. it seems so godamned crazy.... |
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but if it were just a paranoid delusion it must be one that he has been working on for a long time... too many connections keep popping up as you dig deeper... and it seems some people are taking him pretty seriously... i hope he's not crazy ;)
BTW - i tried to vote "not sure" but somehow my vote got recorded as "loon"
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:25 PM
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11. Check this out for the latest |
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Sat Nov-20-04 03:45 PM
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17. He could be both. :-) |
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Sat Nov-20-04 04:04 PM
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18. I'm still waiting for someone from Florida to tell me |
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about Fisher. Someone who knows him personally, and can attest for his sanity/looniness. Does he have a hsitory of making wild claims? Or is he a straight shooter that understands the implications of making baseless implications?
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