FullCountNotRecount
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Sat Nov-20-04 09:09 PM
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Drip...Drip NH Recount shows Straight Dem Party votes miscounted! |
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Sat Nov-20-04 09:11 PM
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1. Where on that link does it say that? |
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Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 09:14 PM by Pirate Smile
Although, I've been really worried that is where some of our problems may lie.
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Sat Nov-20-04 09:14 PM
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4. Last paragraph. sweety. |
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"There are a number of scenarios that could have caused that to happen, but we think that a number of straight ticket ballots being miscounted is the most likely answer," said Deputy Secretary of State David Scanlan
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Sat Nov-20-04 09:17 PM
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5. Thanks. I was going too fast. Where was there that large #- 27% of |
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Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 10:05 PM by Pirate Smile
ballots were listed as not having a vote for Pres? It seems a likely place were straight party votes may not have counted.
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Sat Nov-20-04 10:36 PM
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16. I'd like to hear a lot more details about that "most likely answer". Is |
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it really the answer? Why did it happen? How does it change the numbers? Where else could this same problem have occurred? Let's look at the machines that made this "mistake". How were they programed? etc.
This is a local race recount they are talking about? Is anyone pursuing this issue?
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Sat Nov-20-04 09:47 PM
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8. I find it odd that if "straight ticket ballots are being miscounted"... |
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why was it only in favor of the repub? This is a small count, yet it is about 2.4% off.
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Sat Nov-20-04 09:12 PM
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2. Geezzz,,,,, I am SUPRRRRRIIIIIIISED !! |
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Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 09:13 PM by DeepGreen
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Sorry, feeling a little sarcastic tonight. What's going on is this counrty is getting to me.
That is great news !! Thanks
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Sat Nov-20-04 09:13 PM
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3. Great news can we get any numbers???? |
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Sat Nov-20-04 09:20 PM
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6. My my my, and the story just keeps getting more and more interesting. |
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John Kerry, are you paying attention? Do you know that not only are we all going through this for ourselves, we're doing it for you as well? Speak up man, give us a break. Let us know where you really stand on this. What have you got to say for the possibility that we were cheated and disenfranchised for voting for you? Back us up, we backed you.
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Sat Nov-20-04 09:23 PM
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7. Well, that could cause a bit of a discrepancy between exit polls and vote |
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tallies.
Did Ohio have straight ticket voting?
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Sat Nov-20-04 10:07 PM
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Sat Nov-20-04 09:55 PM
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9. Wouldn't Kerry be called "Sore Loserman" by the media... |
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if he were out front on this? I think it's better that this started out as a voter/citizen movement. The headline you'll be seeing will say "LAWYERS" suing election results instead of "CITIZENS" challenging election. I think we have to remind the media (if we can) that this is a citizen movement to see that the votes were counted correctly and Kerry is not leading the way. He'll join in only if he has to condemn the obvious fraud on the other side.
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Sat Nov-20-04 10:38 PM
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17. Of course he would. Until there is real evidence found, not just |
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statistical anomalies, he can't do much or else he will look foolish.
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Sat Nov-20-04 09:55 PM
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10. This is slightly at odds with what is coming up in the Nader recount |
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They say they are finding no surprises. Is this separate recount done in areas that Nader is not recounting? I assume that it is but would like clarification. Here's a link to the current Nader recount thread on DU http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1004834
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Sat Nov-20-04 10:07 PM
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12. Isn't Nader only doing 11 precincts? |
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Sat Nov-20-04 10:27 PM
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15. I think an answer will emerge |
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It's looking to me like it's a numbers shaving game but on how many or what different levels we can't be sure yet. Having only 1 of the eleven done so far with a 9 vote change that gives Dems a net 3 votes tells mostly nothing (except real counting favors the Dems).
In your first dig for evidence because something not working correctly, you don't turn up any, does that mean you give up?
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Sat Nov-20-04 10:13 PM
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13. Nader hasn't counted that many... |
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the State Senate races being recounted are slowing Nader's count (excuse, me...AUDIT) down. But Kerry did pick up 6 didn't he? Bush picked up 3...it's a start. Nine of our fellow, honorable citizens had their votes counted. I think that's great.
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Sat Nov-20-04 10:20 PM
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14. That's good news! n/t |
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Sun Nov-21-04 12:03 AM
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18. Nader is doing a presidential recount |
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And has only done 3 wards so far.
The recount in question was for a local issue and had nothing to do with Naders recount. they don't recount everything when they do a recount. Just the race requested
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Sun Nov-21-04 12:32 AM
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19. Same thing in Franklin County, Indiana |
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This is precisely the same scenario as in Franklin County, Indiana, with straight party Democrat tickets being miscounted.
What if the Bushians decided just to change all straight-party tickets for Democrats to something else.
Surely, there are not a lot of people left in the country that vote straight Democrat, AND are manipulatible by electronic processes. That would be enough right there to swing the election and not be noticed.
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Sun Nov-21-04 12:37 AM
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20. In Iowa I voted a straight party line |
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I did not like any of the repukes in the races.
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Sun Nov-21-04 01:29 AM
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21. One district a 1.18% error rate in NH. Applied to the nation almost 1.4m |
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Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 01:32 AM by EndElectoral
3042 votes, 36 found in error = 1.18343%
Total Votes in Pres. Election = 115,409, 172 votes
115,409,172 * .0118343 = 1,365,789
And now add in the Browards, and Volusia and Cuyahoga Counties of the world.
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