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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 09:59 AM
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The Constitution Tells Us Specifically What To Do with Botched Elections:
The Constitution Tells Us Specifically What To Do

Reduce Representation in Congress for States that Botched the Election

Deliver Harsh Penalties to States that Can't Count Votes Honestly


ReDefeatBush founder David Lytel gave introductory remarks entitled When Bush Comes to Shove and concluding remarks entitled Righting the Left: Rebuilding the Opposition Industry. He called on citizens to initiate lawsuits that would implement the penalties for vote suppression written into the U.S. Constitution (14th Amendment, Section 2): "But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States... is denied to any male inhabitant of such state... or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation shall therein be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of ... citizens." If investigations into election fraud conducted by honest state or local authorities turn up 550,000 violations in one of these states then OH, FL, NC, IN and other states should have their representation in Congress reduced for their inability to conduct fair elections and denying citizens the right to vote.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:02 AM
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1. Do you have a link to the full comments, El?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:05 AM
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4. http://www.beamerica.org/
(oops--sorry)
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:10 AM
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6. Not a problem. And thank you. Another arrow in the quiver.
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:02 AM
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2. I'd like to see that happen
I really would, but, it seems highly improbable, the people who would decide a thing like that, are the same people who have been cheating.
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jdog Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:03 AM
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3. Yeah, but
the same people who have been cheating are finally getting caught! They can't get away with it!
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:09 AM
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5. we need to pass this around...
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:18 AM
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7. Devil's advocate:
What happens when some voters are denied the right to vote, or have their vote counted properly, and this happens in all states?

Does this mean that Congress shrinks relative to population? Hasn't this phenomenon of 'more citizens per Senator and Representative' already occurred?

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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:28 AM
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8. "MALE citizens"
Consitution? Wha consitution? We don' got no consitution...
WE DON' NEE' NO ESTEENKIN' CONSITUTION !!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:00 PM
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9. i'm confused though
if the amount of representatives of a state are reduced, aren't also the number of electors (electoral college)???
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:05 PM
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10. ooh hope so.
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