Al Jazeera reprints Vote Fraud Article

[cyn2]

from Commondreams.org

New evidence of possible U.S. election fraud
11/21/2004 10:00:00 AM GMT

Bev Harris, the last investigator of electronic voting machines, along with people from Florida Fair Elections, went to Florida's Volusia County Elections Office on Tuesday, November 16 in the afternoon, and asked to check each of the poll tapes for the 100+ optical scanners in the precincts in that county.

A "poll tape" is a term used to describe the printout from an optical scan voting machine made the evening of an election, after the machine reads all the ballots. It gives the final results of the election in that location. Polling officials present in that precinct/location should then sign the printout, then it should be submitted to the county elections office as an official record of how the people in that particular area had voted. (each location should have only one single optical scanner/reader, and thus produces only one poll tape.)

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/conspiracy_theory/fullstory.asp?id=171

Granted, it's under their "Conspiracy Theory Section", but it's out there.

[knowbody0]

1. its everywhere but cnnfoxabcnbccbs

[Straight Shooter]

8. That would make a good acronym

CNN
FOX
ABC
NBC
CBS

CFANC pronounced "see-fank"

It actually does sound kind of skanky, doesn't it?

[ahyums]

2. might not be an idea to publicise that too widely - it'll be used by

right wingers to claim that people investigating fraud are sponsored by or sponsoring terrorism or some other such nonsense (admittedly they'll probably do that anyway, but the less ammunition they have the better.)

[xultar]

3. Yup, they can go that low, the fuckers.

[New Earth]

5. does anyone have any links to other stories

being reported by news channels NOT in the U.S.????

Like Canada, UK, etc????if so, please post them - i want to show them to another board who is totally ignoring this issue.

[rosyhue]

6. you are right

it's probally best to let this tidbit of information die.

[mcg]

7. Bush stealing elections undermines the spreading of democracy.

That's a valid response to such nonsense.

[rosyhue]

12. I agree with you

don't get me wrong - this issue needs all the reporting it can get.
Unfortunately, though, Bush nuts will surely attempt to use AJ's mention of the issue (under a conspiracy theory heading no less) to our disadvantage. They're a highly manipulative lot, as we all know.
Why give them any ammo?

[mcg]

20. and I agree with you,

you're right, they will attempt to do this.

[madison2000]

4. They're ahead of most of the mainstream American media

Of course its a little harder for the Chimphouse to suppress AlJazeera :spank:

[New Earth]

9. help!

does anyone have links from other countries? I heard Canada and the UK were also reporting on this. Does anyone kknow where i can find them?

[madison2000]

11. Do a google news search

http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&gl=us

A lot of them may simply be referring to the Common Dreams page, though.

[anamandujano]

13. Try here--Elorial's thread, DU Compendium

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=201&topic_id=1984&mesg_id=4846

It is keeping track of the various threads on the aftermath of the election. It is huge but if you look at the subjects of the posts you will find some threads on foreign media reporting.

I'll try to look also as soon as I finish this post.

[rosyhue]

14. How about "Old Europe"? Any mention of election fraud in their press?

Bet Spain, Germany and France would enjoy reporting on this.

[seaclyr]

19. Europe

Le Monde had an article, DW (Germany) printed letters on the possibility of vote fraud,and I think there may be a further article in another German newspaper. The Guardian had a lightweight AP article that mostly dismissed fraud. Pravda and The Moscow Times had articles that were strongly positive; Pravda's was entitled "Did Bush Steal the Elections," as I recall.

[bear425]

10. Mcain on Meet the Press this am insisting Aljazeera is merely propaganda

Yeah, nothing to see here... move along.

[New Earth]

15. how can aljazeera be propganda

all they did was take the story from commondreams.

[rosyhue]

17. that doesn't matter, Faye

Bush zealots would *love* to know AJ reported the fraud story.
All they have to do to stain this issue is say: "AJ also posts beheading videos. Obviously they will jump all over anti Bush *propaganda*"

They're going to run with this.

[bear425]

18. Of course it's not propaganda, the Repugs are just painting it that way

to further their agenda. Never hear them use the same litmus test for Fox.

[rosyhue]

16. Yep!

I knew it. They're going to put The Spin Of Spins on this.
Let this topic die fast.

[anamandujano]

21. They're going to do that anyway.

I wouldn't be surprised if Rove submitted the article himself.

And, just a thought, how long would Clinton have survived even one beheading? Remember the flack he took over the Black Hawk Down incident, which was really a situation that grew out of poppy Bush's policies.

I think that if Al Jazeera can get the message to their readers that Americans DID NOT VOTE BUSH into the top spot again, the better for the world. (Of course this thought collides with my first sentence, but . . . .)

[SueZhope]

22. Nasty article : Liberals, the election is over, live with it

I'm a newbie.. This is my first post here.I was not sure were to post this article.

I have been reading the group since a little before the election. The group is an inspiration for hope and the work everyone has been doing is wonderful.

I was outraged when I saw this article. I’m not sure if any one has seen it yet but this one hit me the wrong way. I have read many others like it. I imagine this is the kind of article that needs some response. so i hope this is ok. This line got to me.......“Liberals wallow in a never-never-land of their own making”
I think the person is confused. Those supporting bush are often not living in the REALITY based world. Can this person prove the election was not rigged?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/11/21/ING5A9TCU21.DTL

[newyawker99]

23. Hi SueZhope!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[SueZhope]

25. Thanks!!!!

Thanks for the welcome.....newyawker99
I noticed that in the new Keith bloggerman post he also mentions the above article
that I posted.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/

[KaryninMiami]

24. Just what we need- a new reason for them to spin this story backwar

I can see the Rove spin "Al Jazerra supports the conspiracy theory." Not that I don't want the word to get out and nor am I unaware of the fact that many moderates around the world pay clsoe attention to Al Jazerra (it's as powerful as CNN in many ways) but how I wish we could get this story out to mainstream media in other countries as well.

If you haven't seen the movie Control Room, go see it or rent it. It will open your eyes about media and about the fact that the rest of the world is seeing a very different war in Iraq.