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sympa Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:51 PM
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Firsthand Reports from Ohio Volunteers keep kicked
CTSteve asked that this link be posted to its own topic. This is the type of story that ought to be reported to local media, especially here in OHIO. also, if anyone has any NYTmes or AP contacts, please forward them this information as well. thanks :hi:


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/21/221351/52

I will email the links to Mr Herbert, Mr Krugman, Ms Dowd at the NY times and take care of forwarding this to the local news people in Columbus Ohio.

Thanks guys. :hi:

RNC "workers" were in our hotel. They were not there to do literature drops, canvas, or to make sure that people knew where their polling places were, as we were. One of them tried to infiltrate one of our hotel rooms (I removed him) to gather information on our activities. He and another RNC lawyer followed some of the canvassers the next day to try to intimidate them, telling them that they were "putting them on notice, that what they were doing was breaking federal law" (among other more vile things). What the canvassers were doing was distributing ACT literature. These "people" were there to go inside the polls to challenge Democratic voters to intimidate them and suppress the Democratic vote.

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Below are the findings from another Election Protection project lawyer who came on our bus. We were in Mahoning and Trumbull counties. These are heavily Democratic counties, which we did win by large margins, but it looks like we should have won them by far more from all of these reports.




Too few polling machines, particularly for rush-hour voting, poorer areas/large numbers of people. (3 to 4 hours at the very least, some waited up to 8 and 9 hours)


Numerous calls reported, "There are not enough machines. We need more people."


Machines were breaking down. One polling location had only two machines for very large group. (9 calls)


There were many reports throughout the day of non-functioning machines. Many people were getting frantic. Others were leaving. Many were demanding that paper ballots be sent. This Election Protection project lawyer and the others at her calling center tried to call ES&S to tell them that machines were malfunctioning. The Board of Elections said the machines had calibration problems and someone would come out. The Board of Elections was inundated with calls about the machines malfunctioning.


There were numerous reports of voters trying to select Kerry and Bush was selected on the screen instead. The voters would try repeatedly to get Kerry to come up. Voters were only allowed three "pushes." They were told they could request a different machine, but of course by the time they were on the phone with the Election Protection project workers, it must have been too late.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:52 PM
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1. Kick
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ahyums Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:55 PM
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4. hate to ask it what with still being somewhat new but one thing I still
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 01:56 PM by ahyums
don't quite get is this practice of kicking certain threads the minute they are posted, surely the point of kicking is to wait until the thread gets a bit further down the page, or am I missing something
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prof_science Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:06 PM
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11. Now I'm kicking you ahyums...
...no, just kidding. I'm also pretty new here, and the etiquette surrounding the "kick" is somewhat confusing to me as well. So from one newbie to another: Welcome to DU!
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:17 PM
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12. You're right
Kicking keeps it at the top. But sometimes they keep kicking to not let it slip below top 5 or so. I'm still a little new as well, but I've noticed they don't always wait 'til it drops to low.

That's my take on it. Keep it top o' the top.

Welcome:hi:
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ahyums Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:19 PM
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13. ah that makes more sense - although do people really only look right at
the top of the page? Anyway thanks to both of you for the welcome.
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:05 PM
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14. Good point
Apparently, top o' the top is best if (1) it gets enough responses (2) stays at the top and (3) has an animated flaming notepad to the left--- this makes it a hot topic (of great importance). That's how I'm interpreting it. But, should you end up with your own ideas as to why this is, let me know. Input welcome.

Last night, a woman was posting poetry as the "header" of a post. She would do many, many posts like this. When I questioned this, it was explained to me that this was a creative way of "kicking" the piece up again. So I think, "Oh, okay" (although her "poetry" had nothing to do with the topic). Shortly after, the Moderator went in and deleted every one of her posts.......so now I don't know what to think, considering these posts were done by someone who apparently had been around awhile.

;)
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snacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:53 PM
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2. kicking
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:54 PM
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zapp Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:55 PM
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Amich Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:57 PM
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6. kick
thanks for the information also
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:59 PM
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7. now see this is where I fault kerry. the man had 300 million at his
disposal, all he had to do is concentrate on 2 states, and not even the whole state. just certain area's, they should have been all over this, there should have been no waiting in line, there should have not been any malfunctioning machines.

this is bullshit, kerry's people should have been on top of this from day one.
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:31 PM
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sympa Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:50 PM
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9. Email sent to Herbert, Krugman, Dowd, Kristof of NY times
I asked them to investigate this story. If we can get NYtimes coverage of this, it would certainly catch on with other papers and lead the way into getting this into MSM.
I have to go to work now, but I will contact local news outlets when I get home.

stay safe everyone.

:hi:
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:03 PM
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10. kicked
Sent it to two places

tschevitz@sfchronicle.com

and KGO channel 7 news ideas email in SF Bay area/they aired the Berkeley Report.
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su01 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:49 PM
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15. Kick!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:44 PM
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