Ohio Provisional Vote Count Update

[righteous1]

The latest data concerning the Ohio provisonal vote count shows 25 counties have completed counting ballots. Approximately 75% have been deemed valid. Bush has picked up an additional 7905 votes Kerry has garnered an additional 5636. For complete data: http://www.ohvotesuppression.blogspot.com

[Straight Shooter]

1. Can someone from Ohio look at this site and give us a forecast?

I mean in the sense of which are Dem strongholds and which are Repub strongholds and is this a trend to bush or just a surge based on which counties are providing results?

There were 150,000 PBs, at least, right? So this is only approximately 13,500 of them. Is Kerry holding his own?

[pointsoflight]

4. These are repub counties

And Kerry is doing better with the provisionals in these counties than he did in the votes counted on election day.

[righteous1]

5. How votes are breaking

It appears as though the votes are breaking pretty close to the way they did in the general. Unfortunately there appear to be higher "throw out" rates in the bigger higher vote Kerry counties ie Lucas @ 50% Cuyohoga @ 35%

[Straight Shooter]

9. Thank you, pointsoflight and righteous1

It's good to maintain perspective.

:thumbsup:

As for the throw-aways, I'm sure the Kerry campaign is paying attention. I wonder what those counties' "excuses" are.

[righteous1]

12. Excuses

Well, what they are saying is 1) not registered 2)wrong precinct....you can take that FWIW

[Yupster]

2. Appreciate your updates

How many counties does Ohio have anyway.

It sure seems like they are taking their time getting these votes counted.

[righteous1]

3. 88 Total

[kk897]

6. thanks!

this is a public service, I think. Thank you for gathering this information for us!

[righteous1]

7. Glad to do it

Be more interesting though when The big counties come in, which BTW should be anytime. These totals will change dramatically

[dogindia]

8. Chris Bowers writing on crime of voter disenfranchisement

posting here as I am new.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/11/22/131412/66#readmore

[blue agave]

19. dogindia, thanks for this post. I started a new thread for you.

Hope this is legal with the mods.

This article could use some additional discussion.

[GingerSnaps]

10. Do you remember the people that were caught voting twice recently?

They were from Ohio and it dealt with voting twice by provisional voting. They claimed that they thought that the first vote hadn't been processed or something like that.

[righteous1]

11. Yes i do

But i have not heard anymore about that, who they were what party affiliation etc.

[GingerSnaps]

14. They have more provisional votes for * than they do for Kerry

They need to be checked out and they also should find out if the people exists.

[jhgatiss]

13. I think that might have happened a couple of times.

There was at least one case west of Columbus where a couple voted absentee and on election day. There might be another case up near Cleveland but I don't recall it off the top of my head.

[saddemocrat]

15. unpopular question

Can I ask an unpopular question? I'm sure I'm missing something here and let me just preface this by saying NO, I'm not a freeper troll...but if the new hampshire recounts are pretty much looking like there wasn't any funny business and the provisional vote counts have Bush with 7905 and Kerry with 5636...is it possible....that Bush...won?

Running for cover?

[pointsoflight]

16. The provisionals don't tell us much at this point.

Less than 10% of the provisionals have been reported.

Those that have been reported are from republican-leaning counties.

Although Bush has so far picked up more provisional votes than Kerry, the gap between them is *narrower* with the provisional votes than the election-day votes.

[saddemocrat]

17. oops

Sorry...I thought that 75% of them were in. I would love to nail it to Bush and Co...its' just getting tougher to 'keep the faith'. :(

[righteous1]

18. Big counties

POF is correct. We really can't make any blanket conclusions untill the 5 or 6 BIG counties come in. The rate of spread in Kerry counties will be defining

[bemis12]

29. Actually, we can

With 155,000 provisional ballots, and a "gap" of about 132,000, we needed to win by overwhelming margins. Even in the Bush areas. This data thus far pretty much rules out catching * in the provisionals. We'll have to do it via the fraud/recount route.

That was always our best bet anyway, given the math on the provisionals.

[righteous1]

32. Surprise?

True, but the remaining provisionals in the Kerry counties could be surprising

[IAMREALITY]

33. Here We go again

I see someone is back to depress us again....

;( ;( ;( ;( ;( ;( ;(

75% of them were accepted. How many more times must we declare that. It is tough for all of us to be postive sometimes, but please, do your best when posting to limit the negativity, it is hard enough for us without having posts bring us down further.

This prov count means NOTHING so far. Be patient.

[sabra]

24. NH Recount?

Today is the second day of the recount in NH, there for we have no idea what has been discovered. And what has been reported was on just a small percent of the total. Let's wait till it's over, and then we can evaluate the situation...

[grumpy old fart]

20. Less than 10% counted so far??

according to the figures given. What's up with that?

[righteous1]

22. 15%

With the total @ 155000 - throw outs = about 15% of the provisionals have been counted

[righteous1]

21. Update of the Update

The latest data show Bush +9029 Kerry +6202 28 counties reporting. 75% acceptance rate

[WI_DEM]

23. doesn't look like the provisional ballots are going to make a

big impact. Bush is gaining where he did well, and Kerry is gaining where he did well. Looks like it could be a wash. But at least they are being countned.

[righteous1]

25. Continuing updates

The latest count is as follows Bush +12052 Kerry + 8062 37/88 reporting 75% acceptance rate

[ahyums]

26. that really does not sound good, no chance whatsoever of Ohio switching

based on provisionals and under votes then.

[righteous1]

27. Had hoped

Had hoped that the provisionals had broke hard for Kerry even in the Bush counties but does not appear to be happening. Never know though big counties still out

[Solitaire]

28. I'm still holding onto that thin thread of hope. :)

[Snivi Yllom]

30. the numbers have updated, now * +12,052, K+8,062

I seriously doubt that the current margin will decrease below the total number of rejected punchcard votes.

[righteous1]

31. see post #25

[Snivi Yllom]

34. update *+26,752 K+22,062 57 out of 88 counties, 82% acceptance rate

[Snivi Yllom]

37. update *+28,195 K+23,043, 61 of 88 counties, 83% acceptance rate

http://ohvotesuppression.blogspot.com/2004/11/summary-of-provisional-ballots-count.html

[wiggs]

35. Where was it that provisional ballot hijinx was found?

Where was it that a judge was found to have rejected only democratic provisional ballots, triggering an investigation?

New Mexico or Ohio?

[pointsoflight]

36. New Mexico...here ya go:

http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news04/111004_news_vote.shtml