"Ignite" and "Diebold" hires ex cons

[GingerSnaps]

Yesterday I located an article about "Ignite" and "Diebold" hiring ex cons that had been in prison for computer hacking. It was a very interesting article and if someone has the link and article can you please post it because it had several of the companies linked together that have come up in the news about Diebold.

I found the articles on webcrawler but I can't locate any of the links today.

[TexasLawyer]

1. Check out the DU thread about Chuck Herrin

Confessions of a Republican Hacker, posted by Carolab.

Mr. Herrin writes:

Check this out - No less than 5 of Diebold's developers are convicted felons, including Senior Vice President Jeff Dean, and topping the list are his twenty-three counts of felony Theft in the First Degree. According to the findings of fact in case no. 89-1-04034-1 (Washington State):

“Defendant’s thefts occurred over a 2 1/2 year period of time, there were multiple incidents, more than the standard range can account for, the actual monetary loss was substantially greater than typical for the offense, the crimes and their cover-up involved a high degree of sophistication and planning in the use and alteration of records in the computerized accounting system that defendant maintained for the victim, and the defendant used his position of trust and fiduciary responsibility as a computer systems and accounting consultant for the victim to facilitate the commission of the offenses."

To sum up, he was convicted of 23 felony counts of theft from by - get this - planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection. Do you trust computer systems designed by this man? Is trust important in electronic voting systems?


Very spooky stuff.

[GingerSnaps]

2. He doesn't have a conscious

Diebold was looking for cons because they are perfect for the crime. If Diebold gets taken to court all they have to say is we hired the programmer so that he would get a second chance and it's not our fault. :think:

Thanks

[BlueDog2u]

16. As has been mentioned

These facts should be brought before a wider readership. They are highly relevant in assessing the reliability and transparency of the current voting system. Even those who will not blink at the Ahmanson connection, for whatever personal ideological reasons, should be able to see that there is something wrong in a system which contrives "cage lists" --why was it called that, anyway? -- of Afro American felons to prevent them from voting, but allows its voting machines to be built by companies whose higher execs are themselves felons. Duh.

[Carl Brennan]

3. Is that cons (short for conservative)? They are not prohibited

from working for voting machine companies, but they should be. }(

[GingerSnaps]

5. If a company wants to pull some shenanigans

They hire an ex con. Say if they want to create 2 sets of accounting books and they know that what they will be doing will be fraud. The best thing that they can do is hire someone that been in prison because they can pin it on the ex con because they are in the system.

Even if the the ex con didn't do anything wrong it works because the person has been guilty of the crime before.

CON-serveative They serve themselves even if it means that they are committing fraud. LOL

[blue agave]

4. So ... ex cons not allowed to vote, but ...

allowed to program the voting machines. Makes perfect sense in a neocon world.

[GingerSnaps]

7. LOL

Great point!

[elehhhhna]

6. What is he responsible for? Doubt it's hacker detection & security...

[mcg]

8. Links to a couple of articles re ex-cons at Diebold

http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=167

http://www.ejfi.org/Voting/Voting-18.htm

[eowyn_of_rohan]

9. Disappearing links

I had this happen to me last week too. A google search led to over a hundred hits in the morning, and I reported my find on one of these threads. That night I made the same search and got zero hits. I had a hard time going to sleep that night....

[GingerSnaps]

10. Neil Bush and Ignite?

Someone is cleaning up the "mess" before the shit hits the fan.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

11. no, mine was different

inluminent and cybernet, which I won't get into on this thread.

It petrifies me that someone has the power to get google to erase connections like this.

Out of curiousity I googled Neil bush and ignite and there are about 60,300 hits, for what it's worth.

[GingerSnaps]

12. They had information on Neil's company from the beginning

I found associations with the Bush family and the different software companies that have been mentioned.

Can you find the links of the controversial issues like the government funding, software meetings with the other groups that have been mentioned.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

13. Here are a few

Were you having trouble with google or something different?

HISD uses caution over software deal 14 Dec 2003
Investors in Neil Bush's educational software company include. On Thursday, the Houston Independent School District board was scheduled to seal a deal that could have given Bush's fledgling educational software company, Ignite, an important edge over competitors in the $7 billion-a-year industry (Houston Chronicle, TX).
(Pay site)

Scandal fatigue and the new American coupFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... Funding Neil Bush Or there’s always the story of George W’s brother Neil Bush. ... software company called “Ignite.” Ignite sells software that ...
www.coldtype.net/Assets.04/Niman.04/Niman.12.04.pdf - Similar pages

Concerns raised in Neil Bush deal : February 2004 : ARN-L
... $10,000 • Stearns Charitable Fund $5,000 Neil Bush's involvement in ... the software
and how HISD entered into ... Bush's Austin-based company, Ignite, agreed last ...
interversity.org/lists/ arn-l/archives/Feb2004/msg00126.html - 11k - Cached - Similar pages

Wineburg doubts underlying theory of Neil Bush's educational ...
... ON THE INTERNET-- IGNITE www.ignitelearning.com SOFTWARE USERS IN HISD Houston public
schools are already using Neil Bush's Ignite educational software on the ...
ed.stanford.edu/suse/news-bureau/ displayRecord.php?tablename=notify1&id=172 - 14k - Cached - Similar pages

02.16.04 Ed.Net Briefs
... an educational software company founded by Neil Bush, the brother ... HISD trustees delayed
a vote on the matter ... that Bush's Austin-based company, Ignite, might be ...
www.edbriefs.com/usa03-04/02.16.04.html - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
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Wineburg doubts underlying theory of Neil Bush's educational software
Houston Chronicle, 12-14-03
On Thursday, the Houston Independent School District board was scheduled to seal a deal that could have given Neil Bush's fledgling educational software company, Ignite, an important edge over competitors in the $7 billion-a-year industry. But the board voted 5-3 to delay accepting the donations, with some board members saying they worried they might be accused of helping Bush cash in on his family name. Stanford University Professor Sam Wineburg doubt the underlying theory of ??? multiple-intelligences that has been incorporated into the history software.

[GingerSnaps]

14. I know that this seems unimportant to a few people but

The connections between people and companies count ;) I use webcrawler and some older search engines and I tend to find a few more things that google misses. :hug:

[GingerSnaps]

15. Have you noticed who does the narrating on the software?

Most of the spinners that come on the cable corporate news shows. Ben Stein is one of them and so is Maureen Dowd. Could that be considered conflict of interest when they give an opinion on republican issues?

[eowyn_of_rohan]

21. Maureen Dowd?

THAT is weird. Black is white, up is down and day is night. I really think I need to step back form all of this and think of specific things to fight on and for, and specific goals I pesonally can reach...

[GingerSnaps]

22. I would like a law to be passed that we should be able

To know what each person that is giving an opinion piece or an opinion on either party on how they vote. If they are a republican we should know that if they are claiming to be an independent.

[RedOnce]

17. E S & S and Sequoia Pacific as well?

FYI, Daniel Hopsicker is doing a series on executives and owners of E S & S and Sequoia Pacific that allegedly have been convicted of bribery and suborning public officials. http://www.madcowprod.com/mc6912004.html

[eowyn_of_rohan]

18. I haven't read too much about Sequoia but here are a few hits from Google:

NASED Qualified Systems
... Firmware Release 6.1.2. ES&S. Unity Election System Software. Ver. 1.0. ... NASED
#010302-203. Release 2.03 (11/2001). Sequoia Pacific. D ( 5-31-95 ). NASED #010201. ...
www.electioncenter.org/about/nased.html - 101k - Cached - Similar pages

One Person Can Make a Huge Difference
... Sequoia Pacific was recently acquired by De LaRue, British owned company that is ...
ES&S, Sequoia, Accenture (partner of Halliburton) and ChoicePoint Inc are the ...
www.fairelections.us/print_ article.php?id=104&print=1 - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

Directory of California Voting Systems
... YES, using Sequoia Pacific AVC Edge Touch Screen. Nevada. Lorraine Jewett-Burdick,
County Clerk/Recorder, Optical Scan, ES&S 350/550, Optical Scan, ES&S 350/550 ...
www.calvoter.org/issues/votingtech/1102directory.html - 36k - Cached - Similar pages

Washington Secretary of State -Elections: Voting Systems
... central. FRANKLIN, DATA-VOTE, Sequoia Pacific, punchcard, central. GARFIELD, ES&S
Opscan 150, Election Systems and Software, op-Scan, central. ...
www.secstate.wa.gov/elections/votingsystems.aspx - 23k - Cached - Similar pages

Multi-million dollar deals harpooned – then reinstated
... the company’s executive and lobbyists; (2) some county officials challenged the
performance of ES&S’ machines in tests; (3) Sequoia Pacific Voting Systems ...
www.electionline.org/site/docs/ html/danedits.plus.dougedits_of_1-31_story.htm - 21k - Cached - Similar pages

DRE Systems
File Format: Microsoft Powerpoint 97 - View as HTML
... ES&S iVotronic Touchscreen DRE. SOURCE: ES&S. 2. MAKE SELECTIONS. 1. INSERT PEB. ...
CARD READER. MV-464 DRE. Sequoia Pacific AVC Advantage Full-Face DRE. SOURCE: SEQUOIA ...
euro.ecom.cmu.edu/program/ courses/tcr17-803/Slides/DRE05.ppt - Similar pages

Optical Scan Systems
File Format: Microsoft Powerpoint 97 - View as HTML
... ES&S Model 650 Central Tabulator. SOURCE: ES&S. Ballots counted centrally,. ... SOURCE:
LOS ANGELES COUNTY. Sequoia Pacific Eagle Precinct Optical Scan. SOURCE: SEQUOIA ...
euro.ecom.cmu.edu/program/ courses/tcr17-803/Slides/Optical04.ppt - Similar pages

How do you like your elections - fixed and murky? by Toni Solo 15 ...
... Back in November 1998 faulty ES&S voting machines used in Hawaii on ... Sequoia Pacific's
Regional Manager and a regional sales executive were indicted for paying ...
www.doublestandards.org/solo4.html - 19k - Cached - Similar pages

[eowyn_of_rohan]

19. Sorry for the redundancy

I am sure you know all about this already. I have to leave for awhile but will be sure to check out the link you posted. Thanks

[RedOnce]

20. Thanks for the links!

[GingerSnaps]

23. Wow

:wow: