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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:58 PM
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I just almost threw up -- CNN reported Chimpy Approval at 55%
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:59 PM
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1. Always jumps after military action. Will fall again.
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:59 PM
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2. There's always a boost right after an election.
Cognitive dissonance.

Won't last long.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:01 PM
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5. Yes
and the end of the Fallujah campaign might be a factor, too.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:03 PM
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9. Yep. Kill some evil doers and get a boost.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:00 PM
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3. the Gallup Poll is at it again!
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:01 PM
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4. But polls aren't reliable, right?
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:02 PM
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6. It will go back down again.
:)
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:03 PM
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7. Repub think: "They're reliable when we say they're reliable."
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life_long_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:06 PM
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18. Maybe they should do an exit poll. As the soldiers are leaving,
ask all the family members of the innocent victims if this is a success. Oh, I forgot, exit polls would be changed later to reflect a better outcome. Pathetic.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:03 PM
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8. If CNN would report accurately on the state of our country
the plummeting dollar, rising unemployment, the failed (and illegal) war, the crimes of Bushco & Delay, the lies of Condi Rice, etc etc etc...
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kerry2win Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:05 PM
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10. CNN are they still on the air
didn't they claim at one time to be a respectable news program at one time?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:09 PM
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11. Post election bounce. He looks like a winner.
"looks"
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:10 PM
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12. ...
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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mdb Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:14 PM
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13. Well I just was reading yesterday " No Post-Election Bounce" Harris int.
Harris interactive polling is up there with Zogby as for accuracy.

http://www.cpod.ubc.ca/polls/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewItem&itemID=5114

(CPOD) Nov. 21, 2004 – George W. Bush’s approval rating has not significantly improved in the United States since his re-election, according to a poll by Harris Interactive. 50 per cent of respondents have a positive opinion of the president, a one per cent drop since October.

In American elections, candidates require 270 votes in the Electoral College to win the White House. Earlier this month, Republican incumbent Bush earned a second term after securing 286 electoral votes from 31 states.

Since his re-election, Bush has made several cabinet changes. Earlier this month, the president nominated White House counsel Alberto Gonzales to take over from John Ashcroft as the country’s attorney general. Bush also tapped national security advisor Condoleezza Rice as state secretary after the resignation of Colin Powell.

The Senate must confirm the president’s nominations. Bush will be sworn in for his second four-year term on Jan. 20, 2005.

Polling Data

How would you rate the job George W. Bush is doing as president–excellent, pretty good, only fair, or poor?

Nov. 2004 Oct. 2004 Sept. 2004
Positive 50% 51% 45%
Negative 49% 49% 54%


Source: Harris Interactive
Methodology: Telephone interviews with 1,014 American adults, conducted from Nov. 9 to Nov. 14, 2004. Margin of error is 3 per cent.

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:15 PM
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14. Okay now I know
these polls lie
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:19 PM
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15. MSM propping up
their puppet king. Trying to create an aura of leadership around a sock monkey. Just who did they "poll", hmmm?
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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:20 PM
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16. What fools these mortals be...
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lthuedk Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:42 PM
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17. Its in line with their anti voter fraud position, nicely fitting in at
this critical time.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:22 PM
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19. I DO NOT TRUST THOSE NUMBERS
It's coming from the MSM Propoganda Bureau, isn't it?????
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SoCalDemGrrl Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:06 AM
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20. As my Mama used to say "Consider the Source"
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:09 AM
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21. Note to CNN
Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:30 AM
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22. Zogby has it at 51 and Rasmussen has it at 53
Rasmussen has had it close to 52 or 53 ever since the Republican convention. For Zogby, this is the first time in a long while that Bush has broken 50. More people (49%) now say the US is heading in the right direction than those who say it's on the wrong track (47%).
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=935
Zogby also gives favorability ratings on Rice, Rumsfeld, Powell, and Alberto Gonzales.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:38 AM
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23. Laura, relax, step back, take a breath, turn off the propaganda
machine.

Lies, Damn LIes and Statistics.

Forget the corporate media. What stories they have are distractions, spin or outright lies.

Turn on what seems like reality, the internet, alternate news sources etc...
It seems like reality because it is, the unreality, the distraction is by design. They want us to work, buy, watch like good little pleebs. Dont cooperate in your own demise. Spend your money wisely when you can. Dont believe the propaganda.

The revolution (as has been so correctly written) will NOT be televised.
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FloridaCrat Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:37 AM
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24. Agree - Boycott Network "News"
bullimiami, I agree 1000%. We all have incredible power of personal choice to not allow the things you cannot change - rigged polls and TV news - to upset you. Boycott the products that are advertised and the TV. This is how we can use our strength in numbers in the most effective way. Don't think your purchasing power doesn't matter - the economy is a consumer economy and the corporations need you to buy their stuff.

Polls are bullshit. It'd be great if someone in the know could explain the population the different polls are sampling from when they publish the numbers. Have they started calling people on cell phones yet? Have you ever been asked a question by a poll gatherer? Did you ever once get a hint that Kerry was going to win in a landslide from the polls? 9 Million new registrants didn't sign up and vote for the status quo, including the states that Bush "won".

The Internet is my home for news ever since 1998 when the networks unrelenting witch hunt of President Clinton. There was no time you could turn on the TV and didn't get assaulted with the hack job they were doing on the president - kind of like the assault on John Kerry, but it was on 24 hours a day.
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:44 AM
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25. FLASH BULLETIN! Blogger calls march on Fox NOW!
Combined protest against Fox and the rigged election —

The objective is specifically to challenge the wall of silence on the rigged election by news outlets like Fox and make a breakthrough —

Please spread this around, check it out and kick it —

A blogger has posted an extremely detailed, specific call to protest the rigged election AND the suppression of the truth ABOUT the rigged election by Fox News — a combined event mass march protest to be held in New York City — AT — Fox headquarters on 6th Avenue —

Main protest chant —

“Rupert Murdoch, tell the truth! Fascists rigged the voting booth!”

Nobody thinks of marching against a news organization in the streets. This is going to be a shot heard round the world.

Very comprehensive protest plan with very helpful travel details, the works —

See blog on this,

“A Call To March On Fox —

For refusing to tell the truth about the rigged election!” —

http://acalltomarchonfox.blogspot.com/

Discussion thread in General Discussion Forum — please help keep this kicked —

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2688242

“A Call To March Against The Rigged Election”

Please spread these links around to help us organize this.

Please join that discussion there and help keep it kicked. Marching on Fox starts at post 117. But read the whole discussion. And read the blog. Discussion also discusses an earlier blog on marching against the rigged election and media. Second blog being discussed is on a specific, detailed call to march on Fox specifically as a key initial part of this protest against the rigged election. Fox is a key ENABLER of the rigged election. They’d never get away with election rigging on such a vast scale if it weren’t for news suppressers/distorters like Fox. Read both blogs.

Tremendously detailed comprehensive blog —

It gives the exact location in New York City of all of Rupert Murdoch’s empire, New York Post, Fox News, News Corporation (Murdoch’s big parent company — it owns almost everything else he’s got) — all of that — it’s all in a single building on 6th Avenue between 47th Street and 48th Street in mid-Manhattan. Murdoch’s own office is in the building too. We can be chanting against him right outside his window. All their offices are not on very high floors either — as low as the second floor — they’ll see and hear us and have to pass us on the way in. All those blow-hard Fox talking heads lying about the election — we’ll be in direct shouting matches with them as they come and go. And Fox itself is on the SECOND Floor. How good is their studio soundproofing in there????? Everybody at Fox is going to be bitching that they can’t get any work done. There’s no way they can hush this up.

Since it’s a vicious circle — news organizations like Fox suppress our protests, making them seem futile, therefore the proposal is to combine objectives and protest Fox AND the rigged election TOGETHER right outside Murdoch’s building and tie the two evils together — “Murdoch suppresses the truth about the rigged election!” — and invite other New York news organizations, many of whom DETEST Murdoch, to cover it. (You didn’t know New York news people and news executives hate Murdoch? Blog goes into that a lot.)

Blog has many links to anti-Murdoch resources and video of Bill O’Reilly telling everybody to shut up, shut up, shut up, over and over. What a sewer rat! Right on camera! He looks really mean and drunk in one of the film clips. Jack Daniels? And he’s on camera hotly lecturing us, “It is our duty as all loyal Americans to shut up.” The video nails him good — and Fox. Blog gives other video links too.

Tired of being told to shut your trap? Open it. March against Fox and the rigged election in New York City.

But the idea is to put it all together, to protest and denounce Fox outside their offices for leading the COVER-UP of the election heist. It’s a shot across the bow to the rest of the media that they better start telling the truth about the election, or they’ll get protests like the one at Fox. All the national news media are based in Manhattan. They can’t say this protest was too out of the way to get to.

Blog also has links to downloadable anti-Fox flyers, petitions and other resources against Fox that could be distributed at the protest march.

Blog goes into tremendous detail about the strategy, the advantages of starting protests in New York as opposed to other cities (huge liberal population would augment people coming from out of town), and it’s the news media capital of the world. Very friendly terrain. New York Democratic congressmen are demanding investigation of the stolen election. No rednecks in the population or the government, no paranoid security apparatus like you have in D.C.

Blog includes complete “mother lode” total orientation guide to using New York subways with downloadable maps you can enlarge, how to use mass transit to get from Amtrak’s Penn Station to the march, how to use mass transit to get from the airports to the march.

Let’s make it happen!

Keep kicking that thread so everyone will hear of this!

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