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life_long_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:55 PM
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Olbermann on in 5 minutes. n/t
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:56 PM
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1. 4...
countdown
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:57 PM
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3...
countdown
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chiffon Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:57 PM
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2. 2...
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 07:57 PM by chiffon
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:59 PM
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5. we could be co-hosts...
lol ;)

1....
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chiffon Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:19 PM
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14. No doubt....Huh? Perfert timing. Too perfect.
I had to go back and edit (REAL faST)

:P
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:58 PM
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3. thanks for the reminder!!
kick
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ReneB Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:58 PM
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4. anyone recording it? :) n/T

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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:01 PM
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8. nooo
i don't want them to show kerrys' video! that was the whole reason he sent it online!!!!
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:04 PM
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9. Faye, what? What's going on! I can't watch it. What about the video? n/
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:07 PM
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11. at the beginning of the show
when they show clips of what's coming up, they talked about and showed a second of the Kerry video sent to us the other day and said 'Is Kerry connected to the recounts'....
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:31 PM
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18. Kerry knew it would get out into the public --sooner or later
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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:59 PM
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6. You have to tell me what he is talking about.
My husband promised my son he sould watch Shrek if he finished his dinner. And for once he finished his dinner, so I am now stuck watching Shrek for the millionth time...
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ReneB Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:00 PM
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7. i am sorry.... but shrek is nice too :) n/T
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life_long_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:41 PM
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23. Here you go, paraphrased of course.
Keith said that Dem. Party is onboard with the recount effort in Ohio.

There will be a letter to Blackwell tomorrow from Dems. and they would at least be providing witnesses for recount.

Showed part of Kerry video.

A law suit was filed to have recount done quickly.

Most of this was posted here today already.




Also, here is a link to the transcript's of MSNBC's shows. I'm not sure how long it takes for them to post the transcript of this show.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3719710/
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:04 PM
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10. Not near a TV -- what are the teasers?
Election fraud (IN THIS COUNTRY) still on?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:29 PM
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15. teaser was 'something unexpected from Ohio democrats"
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:10 PM
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12. Please make a report on Fineman.
I expect him to turn in a disgusting performance as usual.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:11 PM
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13. keith should leave anyone else out of his show re. election fraud
there's no reason for them to be on.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:29 PM
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16. noooo
wtf? why he is going to show Kerry's video? now that 'spin' is gonna start :(
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:30 PM
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17. Faye
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 08:31 PM by angrydemocrat
I don't think he will show very much of the video but you know he is getting ready to show clips of it.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:34 PM
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19. Damn, I wish I had cable, what's happening now?
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:38 PM
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20. kick
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:39 PM
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21. Keith said....
...said that the Kerry camp will be joining efforts in the recount. Kerry camp claims they don't expect any changes. Calling Kerry video daring Karl thing saying that it something like you will never take me alive.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:45 PM
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27. Ohio Dems to "participate" in the recount--willing to put witnesses
forward (did not elaborate on this)---
KO-not it is not only obscure 3rd parties involved
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:45 PM
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28. Keith was talking about
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 08:50 PM by angrydemocrat
Made reference to Kerry talking about right wing extremist trying to attack our values. Saying Democrats need to be strong. More less saying we need to fight. Talked about 3 lawsuits against blackwell. One was by the Glibs to make Blackwell get his A$$ in gear and do his job. Another by citizens of Ohio trying to have the whole election throwed out.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:08 PM
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38. I hope that the Ohio Dems are going to JOIN with the Glibs

and not try to go it alone.

Their press release seems like they are now trying to head-up the process and steal some of the thunder from the grassroots efforts to-date by Cobb/Badnarik.

"Volunteers can sign up at the Ohio Democratic Party website: www.ohiodems.org and the party will also accept contributions to help offset the cost of completing a recount."

Hope this is not an example of "old guard" powerplay. It would be impressive to join forces and to say,

"Three presidential candidates on the Ohio ballots have joined forces in questioning the election..."

Hope I'm reading into this wrong.
Thoughts?

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life_long_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:19 PM
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39. I would like to know how much of the election watching/recount
funds are left. I mean 17,000 lawyers all eating lobster and drinking fine wines will certainly go through $$$ very quickly.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:34 PM
Original message
self-deleted
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 01:41 PM by Turn CO Blue
my computer froze, and somehow my response posted 3 times! How annoying, aaarggh.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:34 PM
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56. self-deleted
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 01:40 PM by Turn CO Blue
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:36 PM
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57. You know what is surprising...
If some of these lawyers turn out to be real attack dogs on this issue, then those can have all the fine wine they want, IMO.
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:31 AM
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44. Contact dan@ohiodems.org & let him know your concerns.
This is one situation where I *do* think we should be uniting with candidates from other parties. :)
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:42 PM
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58. Did that. Thank you. n/t
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:41 PM
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22. Olbermann Rocks!!!!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:42 PM
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24. fuck this shit
sorry for those words, but that Fineman guy SUCKS. he put the typical doubt and spin on everything. i trust no one but Keith.
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:04 AM
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52. Fuck me too?
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 07:07 AM by The Flaming Red Head
I'm glad he's covering it all.

You don't even know me.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:58 AM
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55. Fineman
Blogosphere, my ass!!!
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:42 PM
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25. Amen to that!! nt
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:43 PM
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26. Does the story break into MSM on the 23rd or 24th?n/t
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liquiduniverse Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:48 PM
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29. My guess is that it breaks tomorrow.
n/t
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:49 PM
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42. And if it doesn't?
Seriously... the lame-stream media has hidden this so well or written the Net off as a bunch of tin-foil hatters for weeks now.

Can they really pull a coup of their own and continue to talk about madman hunters, the Peterson death match or the melee in sports for another day?

I think they will. I don't think this will go nuclear until someone grows a pair - which may take awhile. It may have to be a constant struggle between our e-mails and letters and their inability to get their lips off Bush's ass.

We've got to break through, but, damnit, I'm at a loss for how. :(

Sorry for not being very encouraging, but I fully expected to see more on this by now. I wake up every morning and monitor the news channels only to get bupkiss.
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:12 AM
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53. they are trying not to fan the flames of the public pissing contest
let them collect the evidence under the radar.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:50 PM
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31. what did he say about Blackwell? I missed that part
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intelle Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:49 PM
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30. I agree Fineman can keep his spin
But, he DID say that he spoke to "Ken" Blackwell (must be buddies) and "Ken" said that there would be a recount.

So, I guess it is on.

THIS is good news.
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:53 PM
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32. Keith also said
Glibs filed a lawsuit against Blackwell more less telling him to get his A$$ in gear.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:56 PM
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33. Who the H*ll is this guy Fineman??
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:58 PM
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34. He's dumda$$ from....
...Newsweek. A political hack that try's to spin everything.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:04 PM
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37. Howard "The Duck" Fineman, Mediawhoresonline.com's
"Media Whore of the Year" for 2001 I believe it was.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:58 PM
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35. Press Release from Ohio Dem Party-as discussed on Countdown


http://www.ohiodems.org/index.php?display=ReleaseDetails&id=200466

Monday, November 22, 2004

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

November 22, 2004

Kerry/Edwards Campaign Participates Ohio Recount Ohio Democratic Party Seeks Volunteers to Help Recount.


COLUMBUS – Assuring Ohioans receive an accurate count of all votes cast for president has prompted the Democratic Party to participate in the initiative to recount the results of the Nov. 2 presidential election.


“As Senator Kerry stated in his concession speech in Boston, we do not necessarily expect the results of the election to change, however, we believe it necessary to make sure everyone's vote is counted fairly and accurately,” said Dennis White, Ohio Democratic Party chair.


Columbus Attorney Donald McTigue will lead the recount effort on behalf of Ohio Democrats. The party will be recruiting volunteer witnesses to assist in the recount process in all 88 counties.


On Election Day and throughout the month of November, angry Ohio citizens have expressed frustration with long lines, malfunctioning voting machines and undelivered absentee ballots. There have been inconsistencies in the unofficial reports of the election, including an error in one Franklin County precinct that gave George Bush 3,893 more votes than actually cast for him.


The recount can begin after the official results are certified, which likely will be in the first week of December. The Democratic Party wants to be fully prepared to begin a recount immediately.


Volunteers can sign up at the Ohio Democratic Party website: www.ohiodems.org and the party will also accept contributions to help offset the cost of completing a recount.


“We are proud to stand up for Democrats all over the world who have asked us to make sure every vote gets counted. And we want to demonstrate that Ohio can do better in the future to guarantee every voters who wants to vote, has a chance to vote,” White said.
-30-


Contact: Dan Trevas at (614) 229-4149 or dan@ohiodems.org

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Her Blondness Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:01 PM
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36. Breaking in the mainstream media on anniversary of JFK's death
Has to be some karma there.
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ahyums Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:43 PM
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40. I don't suppose anyone has a link to video of it yet?
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:43 PM
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41. Election Angst Update: Clark Kent Vs the Media Wimps
She is talking about Keith of course..new article on
buzzflash

http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/11/far04040.html
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:09 AM
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43. Good article
but she misspelled Olbermann's name. Two "n's" not one.

(Yes... former editor here. Slap me now. :D )

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:02 AM
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45. oh, VERY good article.
and she's correct, of course. Keith has, quite simply, given us some solid coverage of the story, which everyone else has singularly FAILED TO DO.

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life_long_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:31 AM
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46. Welcome to DU SueZhope and thanks for the link .
Wow, she sure fits alot into one article. Great reading though.
Thanks again....
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:17 AM
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47. I love Keith O, he is our man in the news !!!!!!!!!!!
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:41 AM
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48. I sent him a copy n/t
n/t
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:55 AM
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54. Thanks for the welcome.....
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Stop Shrub Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:47 AM
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49. uh guys
i am a big supporter of anyone covering this story, but did you see the rest of the content of tonights show...I mean i think that he might be taking credit away from this whole thing...opra is #1 story...uh I am feeling more and more like I am wearing a tinfoil hat.
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:07 AM
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50. Keith & Coverage
Hi all,

I kind of agree that the coverage isn't quite the same flavor of vigilant we saw in the begining days, but give it time. I used to work for a news radio station where a bunch of the guys had worked with Keith, and I remember their high praise for this fella. What we need to remember when we talk about coverage is what makes news "news." I spent a couple years editing and writing news for said station in L.A. and have an idea what drives coverage.

In news things need to be fresh, significant and most of all: factual, verifiable and attributable; in other words highly accurate. Keith's coverage has shifted a bit in my opinion, but you have to wonder if his colleagues aren't cautioning him on this coverage; afterall, he can blog on this in more detail.

Not to make excuses, but he DID just get back from vacation... a vacation where he blogged at us everyday with updates. (Now, that is dedication). :) And my money (if I were the gambling type) would go on Keith very near the center of anything breaking, if not the first across the spectrum of American media.

Now, if we see this story drop OFF the Countdown, then we get on his case a bit. ;) Keep in mind, he probably reads DU or at least keeps up with something like it, so I doubt he would miss it.

Warmly,

George
p.s. Now's about the time to send Keith an e-mail thanking him for the coverage, and to let him know how important his effort on this issue is to you. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:46 PM
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59. Another thing
It's also a good thing for his program to draw viewers other than us, so they can be exposed to the election issues, too. Does no good if its just he and us spinning our wheels.
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:18 PM
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60. Very True
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:23 AM
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51. FLASH BULLETIN! Blogger calls march on Fox NOW!

Combined protest against Fox and the rigged election —

The objective is specifically to challenge the wall of silence on the rigged election by news outlets like Fox and make a breakthrough —

Please spread this around, check it out and kick it —

A blogger has posted an extremely detailed, specific call to protest the rigged election AND the suppression of the truth ABOUT the rigged election by Fox News — a combined event mass march protest to be held in New York City — AT — Fox headquarters on 6th Avenue —

Main protest chant —

“Rupert Murdoch, tell the truth! Fascists rigged the voting booth!”

Nobody thinks of marching against a news organization in the streets. This is going to be a shot heard round the world.

Very comprehensive protest plan with very helpful travel details, the works —

See blog on this,

“A Call To March On Fox —

For refusing to tell the truth about the rigged election!” —

http://acalltomarchonfox.blogspot.com/

Discussion thread in General Discussion Forum — please help keep this kicked —

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2688242

“A Call To March Against The Rigged Election”

Please spread these links around to help us organize this.

Please join that discussion there and help keep it kicked. Marching on Fox starts at post 117. But read the whole discussion. And read the blog. Discussion also discusses an earlier blog on marching against the rigged election and media. Second blog being discussed is on a specific, detailed call to march on Fox specifically as a key initial part of this protest against the rigged election. Fox is a key ENABLER of the rigged election. They’d never get away with election rigging on such a vast scale if it weren’t for news suppressers/distorters like Fox. Read both blogs.

Tremendously detailed comprehensive blog —

It gives the exact location in New York City of all of Rupert Murdoch’s empire, New York Post, Fox News, News Corporation (Murdoch’s big parent company — it owns almost everything else he’s got) — all of that — it’s all in a single building on 6th Avenue between 47th Street and 48th Street in mid-Manhattan. Murdoch’s own office is in the building too. We can be chanting against him right outside his window. All their offices are not on very high floors either — as low as the second floor — they’ll see and hear us and have to pass us on the way in. All those blow-hard Fox talking heads lying about the election — we’ll be in direct shouting matches with them as they come and go. And Fox itself is on the SECOND Floor. How good is their studio soundproofing in there????? Everybody at Fox is going to be bitching that they can’t get any work done. There’s no way they can hush this up.

Since it’s a vicious circle — news organizations like Fox suppress our protests, making them seem futile, therefore the proposal is to combine objectives and protest Fox AND the rigged election TOGETHER right outside Murdoch’s building and tie the two evils together — “Murdoch suppresses the truth about the rigged election!” — and invite other New York news organizations, many of whom DETEST Murdoch, to cover it. (You didn’t know New York news people and news executives hate Murdoch? Blog goes into that a lot.)

Blog has many links to anti-Murdoch resources and video of Bill O’Reilly telling everybody to shut up, shut up, shut up, over and over. What a sewer rat! Right on camera! He looks really mean and drunk in one of the film clips. Jack Daniels? And he’s on camera hotly lecturing us, “It is our duty as all loyal Americans to shut up.” The video nails him good — and Fox. Blog gives other video links too.

Tired of being told to shut your trap? Open it. March against Fox and the rigged election in New York City.

But the idea is to put it all together, to protest and denounce Fox outside their offices for leading the COVER-UP of the election heist. It’s a shot across the bow to the rest of the media that they better start telling the truth about the election, or they’ll get protests like the one at Fox. All the national news media are based in Manhattan. They can’t say this protest was too out of the way to get to.

Blog also has links to downloadable anti-Fox flyers, petitions and other resources against Fox that could be distributed at the protest march.

Blog goes into tremendous detail about the strategy, the advantages of starting protests in New York as opposed to other cities (huge liberal population would augment people coming from out of town), and it’s the news media capital of the world. Very friendly terrain. New York Democratic congressmen are demanding investigation of the stolen election. No rednecks in the population or the government, no paranoid security apparatus like you have in D.C.

Blog includes complete “mother lode” total orientation guide to using New York subways with downloadable maps you can enlarge, how to use mass transit to get from Amtrak’s Penn Station to the march, how to use mass transit to get from the airports to the march.

Let’s make it happen!

Keep kicking that thread so everyone will hear of this!

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