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greenmutha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:55 PM
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IMPORTANT from Eloriel - What we can do *now* to help the Vote Fraud Issue
NOTE: (I am reposting this for Eloriel to correct a link in her original post.)

VOTE FRAUD? What can we do? LOTS!!

First and foremost: Contribute to Help America Recount
HelpAmericaRecount is a new 527 set up by DUer Hedda-Foil (also co-founder of the National Ballot Integrity Project) and others specifically to help fund recounts EVERYWHERE, in as many places as possible:

http://www.helpamericarecount.org

Second: Join the DU Activists here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=201&topic_id=4560&mesg_id=4560
VOTE FRAUD WORK (write organize research kick) TEAM SIGN UP (start here)

Third: Stay informed and help inform others.
Check out ACTIVISM posts in these threads which are an easy way to keep abreast of news and developments:

VOTE FRAUD Links - a DU Compendium
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=201&topic_id=1984&mesg_id=1984

VOTE FRAUD Links Compendium - Thread #2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=201&topic_id=3223&mesg_id=3223

VOTE FRAUD LINKS - A DU Compendium - Thread #3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=201&topic_id=4927&mesg_id=4927

There are links for wonderful flyers, there are links for volunteering in Ohio, there are links for writing OH SoS Ken Blackwell, signing petitions, etc., etc., etc.

AND, as complete a compilation of links for the Vote Fraud news (along with Background Info re: Companies, Resources, etc.) as I can manage.


Finally, help keep this kicked. Thank you.

And PLEASE get involved: the democracy you save may be your own.
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:46 AM
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:29 AM
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3. FLASH BULLETIN! Blogger calls march on Fox NOW!
Combined protest against Fox and the rigged election —

The objective is specifically to challenge the wall of silence on the rigged election by news outlets like Fox and make a breakthrough —

Please spread this around, check it out and kick it —

A blogger has posted an extremely detailed, specific call to protest the rigged election AND the suppression of the truth ABOUT the rigged election by Fox News — a combined event mass march protest to be held in New York City — AT — Fox headquarters on 6th Avenue —

Main protest chant —

“Rupert Murdoch, tell the truth! Fascists rigged the voting booth!”

Nobody thinks of marching against a news organization in the streets. This is going to be a shot heard round the world.

Very comprehensive protest plan with very helpful travel details, the works —

See blog on this,

“A Call To March On Fox —

For refusing to tell the truth about the rigged election!” —

http://acalltomarchonfox.blogspot.com/

Discussion thread in General Discussion Forum — please help keep this kicked —

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2688242

“A Call To March Against The Rigged Election”

Please spread these links around to help us organize this.

Please join that discussion there and help keep it kicked. Marching on Fox starts at post 117. But read the whole discussion. And read the blog. Discussion also discusses an earlier blog on marching against the rigged election and media. Second blog being discussed is on a specific, detailed call to march on Fox specifically as a key initial part of this protest against the rigged election. Fox is a key ENABLER of the rigged election. They’d never get away with election rigging on such a vast scale if it weren’t for news suppressers/distorters like Fox. Read both blogs.

Tremendously detailed comprehensive blog —

It gives the exact location in New York City of all of Rupert Murdoch’s empire, New York Post, Fox News, News Corporation (Murdoch’s big parent company — it owns almost everything else he’s got) — all of that — it’s all in a single building on 6th Avenue between 47th Street and 48th Street in mid-Manhattan. Murdoch’s own office is in the building too. We can be chanting against him right outside his window. All their offices are not on very high floors either — as low as the second floor — they’ll see and hear us and have to pass us on the way in. All those blow-hard Fox talking heads lying about the election — we’ll be in direct shouting matches with them as they come and go. And Fox itself is on the SECOND Floor. How good is their studio soundproofing in there????? Everybody at Fox is going to be bitching that they can’t get any work done. There’s no way they can hush this up.

Since it’s a vicious circle — news organizations like Fox suppress our protests, making them seem futile, therefore the proposal is to combine objectives and protest Fox AND the rigged election TOGETHER right outside Murdoch’s building and tie the two evils together — “Murdoch suppresses the truth about the rigged election!” — and invite other New York news organizations, many of whom DETEST Murdoch, to cover it. (You didn’t know New York news people and news executives hate Murdoch? Blog goes into that a lot.)

Blog has many links to anti-Murdoch resources and video of Bill O’Reilly telling everybody to shut up, shut up, shut up, over and over. What a sewer rat! Right on camera! He looks really mean and drunk in one of the film clips. Jack Daniels? And he’s on camera hotly lecturing us, “It is our duty as all loyal Americans to shut up.” The video nails him good — and Fox. Blog gives other video links too.

Tired of being told to shut your trap? Open it. March against Fox and the rigged election in New York City.

But the idea is to put it all together, to protest and denounce Fox outside their offices for leading the COVER-UP of the election heist. It’s a shot across the bow to the rest of the media that they better start telling the truth about the election, or they’ll get protests like the one at Fox. All the national news media are based in Manhattan. They can’t say this protest was too out of the way to get to.

Blog also has links to downloadable anti-Fox flyers, petitions and other resources against Fox that could be distributed at the protest march.

Blog goes into tremendous detail about the strategy, the advantages of starting protests in New York as opposed to other cities (huge liberal population would augment people coming from out of town), and it’s the news media capital of the world. Very friendly terrain. New York Democratic congressmen are demanding investigation of the stolen election. No rednecks in the population or the government, no paranoid security apparatus like you have in D.C.

Blog includes complete “mother lode” total orientation guide to using New York subways with downloadable maps you can enlarge, how to use mass transit to get from Amtrak’s Penn Station to the march, how to use mass transit to get from the airports to the march.

Let’s make it happen!

Keep kicking that thread so everyone will hear of this!

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:59 AM
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:09 AM
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greenmutha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:30 AM
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6. kick for Eloriel! n/t
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greenmutha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:17 PM
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:32 PM
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8. Looks like the Voting Issues forum is getting busier
so I'll give this a little kick myself, since it's scrolled off onto page 2.

Nice work, greenmutha. Thank you. (She also makes great soaps -- PM her for the link to her website).
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greenmutha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:54 PM
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TruthOutDawg Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:15 PM
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 03:03 AM
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SmileMaker Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 03:40 AM
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12. Madsen: Saudis, Enron money helped pay for rigged election
Since I'm a newbie, I can't start my own thread. I think that this deserves one. I hope that JK is all over this one and ready to nail these thugs for once and for all!

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/112504Madsen/112504madsen.html



By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer


November 25, 2004—According to informed sources in Washington and Houston, the Bush campaign spent some $29 million to pay polling place operatives around the country to rig the election for Bush. The operatives were posing as Homeland Security and FBI agents but were actually technicians familiar with Diebold, Sequoia, ES&S, Triad, Unilect, and Danaher Controls voting machines. These technicians reportedly hacked the systems to skew the results in favor of Bush.



The leak about the money and the rigged election apparently came from technicians who were promised to be paid a certain amount for their work but the Bush campaign interlocutors reneged and some of the technicians are revealing the nature of the vote rigging program.



There have been media reports from around the country concerning the locking down of precincts while votes were being tallied. In one unprecedented action in Warren County, Ohio, election officials locked down the facility where votes were being counted. The officials said this was in response to a Level 10 high-threat terrorist warning being issued by the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI for Warren County. George Bush won 72 percent of the vote in Warren County, much larger than his percentage of victory statewide.



The money to rig the election in favor of Bush reportedly came from an entity called Five Star Trust, largely based in Houston but a worldwide entity that is directly tied to the Saudi Royal Family. Five Star Trust was termed "a well-protected vehicle" that has been used to support both Bush and Osama bin Laden in the US and around the world.



Other money used to fund the election rigging was from siphoned Enron money stored away in accounts in the Cook Islands, which was once the base of one of the more questionable and Saudi-linked BCCI subsidiaries. Cook Islands banks also handled some of the weapons smuggling financing of the Iran-Contra scandal. A former Justice Department attorney who helped prosecute the BCCI case said the use of the Cook Islands by the Bush reelection team indicates they wanted the bank arrangements to be a "quick folding tent" operation that would cease to exist when the election was over. He said the Cook Islands was notorious for not requiring any documentation for such operations.


In fact, the Cook Islands has been a favorite location for various covert intelligence activities. This most recent use of the islands is a continuation of a scandal discovered in New Zealand in the early '90s called the "Winebox Affair." In 1992, a computer dealer named Paul White bought some secondhand computers and floppy disks from the Citibank office in Auckland, New Zealand, that had earlier sold them to a scrap dealer.



White later discovered the floppies (and 10 paper files) detailed a scheme to use the European Pacific Bank in the Cook Islands to bilk foreign governments and banks for a phony 15 percent tax bill assessed on various transactions by the Cook Islands government (at the time run by Tom Davis, a former US Army and NASA research scientist who was allegedly on the payroll of the CIA). European Pacific reaped millions of illegal dollars from the New Zealand Treasury and a number of Japanese banks, including Mitsubishi Bank. Paul White later died in a suspicious auto accident.
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illuminaughty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 04:35 AM
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Bozos for Bush Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 06:02 AM
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15. Kick for turkey!
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 05:02 PM
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18. One for kicking fraud!
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raipoli Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 06:50 PM
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19. JTM REWARD up to $200,000
Justice Through Music's reward for evidence of vote fraud is up to $200,000. www.jtmp.org. Let's get it up to a million by spreading the word and donating.
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:07 AM
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20. Yes, let's spread the word. Kick. n/t
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 12:08 AM by Lil
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:46 PM
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:13 AM
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:39 AM
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28. Big Kick and a BIG THANK YOU
Edited on Sat Nov-27-04 05:11 AM by Lil
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 10:46 AM
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mary195149 Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:07 AM
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 12:41 PM
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:14 PM
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32. Ohio Election Officials obstructing process to run out time on recount
Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D.

As of election night there were 155,428 provisional ballots still to be counted in Ohio. The eagerly awaited Ohio recount cannot possibly begin until after the votes are counted for the first time.

It is now Friday, November 26, 2004. Twenty-four days have passed since the presidential election. There are 88 counties in Ohio. To my knowledge, only 13 have examined their provisional ballots, counted them, and posted the results on their websites. The 13
counties are: Ashland, Brown, Butler, Clinton, Geauga, Greene, Hancock, Montgomery, Pickaway, Preble, Tuscarawas, Union, and Warren.

Altogether, there were 23,873 provisional ballots issued in these 13 counties, or 15.36% of the
statewide total. At this rate, it would take five months to count them all. This strikes me as a
deliberate stalling tactic to delay the Ohio recount until after the electoral college meets in December.

Here are the unofficial results in the 13 counties, with the sum totals compared with those reported on election night, so as to compute the net gains:


ELECTION RESULTS AFTER COUNTING PROVISIONAL BALLOTS

County Bush Kerry Others Ballots Not Cast Counted

Ashland 16,171 8,555 234 25,739 779
Brown 12,647 7,140 105 20,281 389
Butler 109,866 56,234 696 168,976 2,180
Clinton 12,938 5,417 58 18,674 261
Geauga 29,974 19,588 205 51,286 1,519
Greene 48,377 30,530 361 80,602 1,334
Hancock 25,101 10,343 140 35,926 342
Montgomery 138,361 142,977 1,205 287,635 5,092
Pickaway 14,160 8,578 123 23,132 271
Preble 13,733 7,274 119 21,559 433
Tuscarawas 23,825 18,854 260 43,760 821
Union 15,869 6,665 96 22,911 281
Warren 68,035 26,043 337 95,512 1,097

Bush Kerry Others

Total 529,057 60.04% 348,198 39.51% 3,939 0.45%
Earlier 516,376 60.18% 337,902 39.38% 3,753 0.44%
Net Gain 12,681 54.75% 10,296 44.45% 186 0.80%

John F. Kerry is actually gaining on George W. Bush as the counting of provisional ballots proceeds. In counties that Kerry lost by 20.8% on election night, he is losing by only 10.3% among the provisional ballots counted. In the 75 counties yet to be heard from, Kerry actually held a lead on election night:

ELECTION NIGHT RESULTS

Bush Kerry Others

88 counties 2,796,147 2,659,664 25,993
13 counted 516,376 337,902 3,753
75 uncounted 2,279,771 2,321,762 22,240


There are 208,696 uncounted ballots in these 75 counties, including 131,555 provisional ballots, and 77,141 regular ballots, mostly punch cards, which will have to be examined by hand during the recount. For a county by county breakdown of the uncounted votes,
read “JOHN KERRY CONCEDED TOO SOON” at

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/uncounted.htm

Half of these uncounted votes, 104,748 (50.19%) are in 9 counties, 8 of which were won by John Kerry.

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/summary.htm

There are also 14,799 ballots still uncounted in the other 13 counties, according to the table above. No wonder Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell is trying to slow down the counting of provisional ballots, and trying to delay the recount until after he certifies the winner. There needs to be a firestorm of protest to cause him to recuse himself, or a restraining order issued by the courts.


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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:12 AM
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37. Great Kerry update on Blackwell stalling!
Thanks!
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:28 PM
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 04:28 AM
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senegal1 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:35 AM
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:29 AM
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45. Yes ". . .the democracy you save may be your own." kick n/t
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:44 AM
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46. All the energy put into this counts! n/t
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:10 AM
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:12 AM
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g9udit Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:28 AM
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49. CONTACT INTERNATIONAL MEDIA: HERE IS WEBSITE LINKS

In addition to all the excellent points made by Eloriel,
I think we also need to write to all the main International
News organizations, who are far more likely to pay attention
and to cover this issue.

If we can do that, and I strongly suspect La Monde and others
will cover this issue, it will put outside pressure on
the lackeys in the American Media to eventually pick up on it.

Below is the World Desk website from Common Dreams, and it
lists links to many of the major International newspapers.

From there you can search for the Contact page to write to them :

http://www.commondreams.org/world.htm
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 09:52 PM
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50. a kick to this thread - for our kids
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:12 AM
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51. What can we do? LOTS!!
even 10 min/day will help
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:14 AM
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