"Something is happening."

[TennisGuy2004]

This is one of my favorite lines from one of my favorite TV Series of all time, uttered in the final episode in '91. (Can you guess the series?)

Jesse Jackson and Howard Dean are saying that Bush won fair and square? There simply must be something going on behind the scenes. Would Jesse Jackson ever come out and say a common thug like Bush won "fair and square" after the clear disenfranchisement of thousands of African Americans in Ohio?

Something is happening that we are not seeing. I don't know if it's an impeachment plan, an ultra-serious recount effor, or what, but it's something.

[still_one]

1. why

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[bling bling]

3. Did JJ mention *anything* about disenfranchisement at all?

[burn the bush]

4. seinfeld

[sce56]

5. They probably saw the new mailing list from Ft Dietrich with a list of

names to receive the next bunch of ANTHRAX letters from some "ROUGE" government element!

[breadandwine]

6. FLASH BULLETIN! Blogger calls march on Fox NOW!

Combined protest against Fox and the rigged election —

The objective is specifically to challenge the wall of silence on the rigged election by news outlets like Fox and make a breakthrough —

Please spread this around, check it out and kick it —

A blogger has posted an extremely detailed, specific call to protest the rigged election AND the suppression of the truth ABOUT the rigged election by Fox News — a combined event mass march protest to be held in New York City — AT — Fox headquarters on 6th Avenue —

Main protest chant —

“Rupert Murdoch, tell the truth! Fascists rigged the voting booth!”

Nobody thinks of marching against a news organization in the streets. This is going to be a shot heard round the world.

Very comprehensive protest plan with very helpful travel details, the works —

See blog on this,

“A Call To March On Fox —

For refusing to tell the truth about the rigged election!” —

http://acalltomarchonfox.blogspot.com/

Discussion thread in General Discussion Forum — please help keep this kicked —

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2688242

“A Call To March Against The Rigged Election”

Please spread these links around to help us organize this.

Please join that discussion there and help keep it kicked. Marching on Fox starts at post 117. But read the whole discussion. And read the blog. Discussion also discusses an earlier blog on marching against the rigged election and media. Second blog being discussed is on a specific, detailed call to march on Fox specifically as a key initial part of this protest against the rigged election. Fox is a key ENABLER of the rigged election. They’d never get away with election rigging on such a vast scale if it weren’t for news suppressers/distorters like Fox. Read both blogs.

Tremendously detailed comprehensive blog —

It gives the exact location in New York City of all of Rupert Murdoch’s empire, New York Post, Fox News, News Corporation (Murdoch’s big parent company — it owns almost everything else he’s got) — all of that — it’s all in a single building on 6th Avenue between 47th Street and 48th Street in mid-Manhattan. Murdoch’s own office is in the building too. We can be chanting against him right outside his window. All their offices are not on very high floors either — as low as the second floor — they’ll see and hear us and have to pass us on the way in. All those blow-hard Fox talking heads lying about the election — we’ll be in direct shouting matches with them as they come and go. And Fox itself is on the SECOND Floor. How good is their studio soundproofing in there????? Everybody at Fox is going to be bitching that they can’t get any work done. There’s no way they can hush this up.

Since it’s a vicious circle — news organizations like Fox suppress our protests, making them seem futile, therefore the proposal is to combine objectives and protest Fox AND the rigged election TOGETHER right outside Murdoch’s building and tie the two evils together — “Murdoch suppresses the truth about the rigged election!” — and invite other New York news organizations, many of whom DETEST Murdoch, to cover it. (You didn’t know New York news people and news executives hate Murdoch? Blog goes into that a lot.)

Blog has many links to anti-Murdoch resources and video of Bill O’Reilly telling everybody to shut up, shut up, shut up, over and over. What a sewer rat! Right on camera! He looks really mean and drunk in one of the film clips. Jack Daniels? And he’s on camera hotly lecturing us, “It is our duty as all loyal Americans to shut up.” The video nails him good — and Fox. Blog gives other video links too.

Tired of being told to shut your trap? Open it. March against Fox and the rigged election in New York City.

But the idea is to put it all together, to protest and denounce Fox outside their offices for leading the COVER-UP of the election heist. It’s a shot across the bow to the rest of the media that they better start telling the truth about the election, or they’ll get protests like the one at Fox. All the national news media are based in Manhattan. They can’t say this protest was too out of the way to get to.

Blog also has links to downloadable anti-Fox flyers, petitions and other resources against Fox that could be distributed at the protest march.

Blog goes into tremendous detail about the strategy, the advantages of starting protests in New York as opposed to other cities (huge liberal population would augment people coming from out of town), and it’s the news media capital of the world. Very friendly terrain. New York Democratic congressmen are demanding investigation of the stolen election. No rednecks in the population or the government, no paranoid security apparatus like you have in D.C.

Blog includes complete “mother lode” total orientation guide to using New York subways with downloadable maps you can enlarge, how to use mass transit to get from Amtrak’s Penn Station to the march, how to use mass transit to get from the airports to the march.

Let’s make it happen!

Keep kicking that thread so everyone will hear of this!

[HysteryDiagnosis]

7. What happened to "fair and balanced"??? n/t

[geo]

8. possible red herring... bad timing to boot...

Hi all,

I would love nothing more than to see Fox and a few others take a lashing for not covering this story, but "I told you so's" don't come unti after they have egg in their face. Remember that part of the problem we've had with getting coverage is that we are getting squeezed out by other news events and similar national distractions (i.e. Fallujah, Bush cabinet changes, etc). The last thing we need on a day when main stream media is starting to cover this, when BBV says they are about to make a major announcement, and right after Kerry's team and Dems come back into the fray is NOT the day for this. I would wait at least until there is a lull, or until it becomes more obvious Fox's coverage of this is disgraceful.

I've spent time at a news desk as an editor and writer. Trust me when I say the timing couldn't be worse. I apologize for the criticism, but I am very concerned that we might be a little shoot first ask questions later on this.

The spin machine is going to be spewing mounds of toxic rhetoric tomorrow, and likely through the week as coverage of this progresses. Here is a link to a thread that I think will help us stay strong on the media front. My guess is that in the coming days we won't be so concerned about whether or not we get coverage; we'll be too focused on dealing with the spin coming from the other side. I say, let's be ready.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x72332

Stay sharp. Stay focused. Let's win this. :)

Warmly,

George

[goclark]

15. They won't allow a lull!

They will replay and spin on Jessica Simpson and Scott and the Pistons.

There is never a lull, that is the pt.

We ain't waiting for anything.

Let's March!

[proudtobeadem]

28. kick

[indigo11153]

9. Yes

Something is up! I agree.

[illuminaughty]

10. The owls are not what they seem

Hello! and welcome to DU. You better be talking about the ONE the ONLY drumroll....TWIN PEAKS! We have a group of die hard fans here in K.C. I've been wandering around since Nov. 2nd saying "It's happening again".

And given that they really do have a mock sacrifice with a blazing fire worshipping a giant owl in Bohemian (not Glastonbury) grove and that they have been doing it for over a hundred years...I think Mr. Lynch was trying to tell us something.

Yes, something is happening. And if you're not talking about Twin Peaks, uh , nevermind, but you made me happy just thinking about it, gonna put an episode in to sleep by.

[TennisGuy2004]

11. Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!

Illuminaughty you rule. And great screen name, by the way.

Yes it was "Twin Peaks" I was refering too.

I also love the line, "Something bad is happening!" from "Mulholland Drive."

[illuminaughty]

13. I'm so excited! I have introduced so many of my students

(dance teacher) once they get to a reasonable age, to TP. I've never had anyone who didn't get totally addicted. Every New Year's Eve we watch episodes (kind of like a cult, lol) and have doughnuts and apple pie.

I think Lynch's works are probably the reason I have no trouble believing in the underbelly of society/politics, besides not having "drank the koolaid", to use the popular phrase.

Where's our Major Briggs? Not to mention we need a Cooper.
Windom Earle - Karl Rove Bob - any of the Neocons
Bush - Frank from Blue Velvet

[SmokingJacket]

27. You have both won my absolute trust, now.

Been following yr. posts, wondering, are they for real?

Answer: yes.

Thanks for the TP memories. Will have to find it on tape.

[Lerkfish]

31. Twin Peaks:

loved it/hated it...directly proportional to when Lynch directed.
second season was superfluous, though.

[MarkusQ]

24. My favorite quote...

Is from a song:

"We won't get fooled again"

--MarkusQ

[ClassWarrior]

18. New shoes. ~spit~

Now I'm gonna hafta go dredge up my old tapes.

NGU.

[kk897]

23. new shoes

Whenever we go shopping for shoes, I say this, too! Hee hee... thanks for a little lift to this gray Ohio day!

[kk897]

22. the owls

Funny, I use this line all the time. I haven't forgotten it, either.

[milkyway]

29. I still can't believe Twin Peaks was on network television. My favorite

show ever, with the best opening title sequence ever (BTW, the theme song was used as a sample in a version of a techno song called "Go," made by a relatively unknown DJ/producer in the late 80's--Moby).

The story and characters were great, and the show was visually rich, but my favorite part was the audio. I used to watch the show while wearing headphones, and the sound was incredible, from the intimacy of the voices, to the subtle background noises.

The show was such a lush visual and audio feast; after Twin Peaks, watching any other show on television seemed like...television.

[TennisGuy2004]

38. Twin Peaks

Yes, the original pilot was great cinema indeed. Ah, the good old days.

[KaryninMiami]

12. "And what if we're wrong and there's nothing happening?"

Don't get me wrong. I agree that it is BIZARRE that Jesse Jackson, knowing that even more people were disenfranchised then in 2000 (don't tell me he didn't "notice" people waiting n line for 6 hours to vote, 1 machine per 1000 persons in minority neighborhoods, hundreds sharing suppression stories at Ohio town meetings), etc. So, what we're all saying is that when JJ went on CNN yesterday saying to America that Bush won "fair and square", it was part of a plan? Same for Howard Dean- is it possible that all he's focused on now is on the Democratic party moving forward when thousands of concerned Americans are demanding to know whether our voted counted and what really happened on Nov.2?

I guess all I'm asking for- wishing for- praying for- is some sort of proof. Some clear indication that need not be made "public" that they, Michael Moore and John Kerry are truly working "under the radar" to protect our democracy and either overturn or impeach. I think we'd all sleep better knowing this because without their support, it is going to be a really, difficult battle.

[John Q. Citizen]

14. It's hard to say what is happening.

Some puzzling evidence........

The Demos are all saying the exact same thing, even those who wouldn't be or shouldn't be - like Jackson - for example. What they are saying is..'nothing here, move along, pay no attention to what isn't happening..'

Kerry specifically mentioned fair and transparent elections in his message, which tells me he hears us and wants us to know he hears us.

The Demos have quietly and officially joined in the law suit in Ohio.

Republican election supervisors in Ohio don't want to recount and are talking about organizing to keep from being audited. "Frivolous" is their refrain.

The Glibs are mounting a major effort to mobilize volunteers and now the Dems are calling for volunteer mobilization to audit the vote in Ohio.

Meanwhile, audits are being quietly carried out in NH and FL. New Mexico and Nevada may see some action before this is over.

People know something is fishy in Ohio, rotten in Florida, and the pot is starting to boil.

[merh]

33. Have you ever seen dems so united in saying nothing?

It is sort of weird, as independent as our leaders are, they are all singing from the same page. :shrug: It makes me wonder, that's for sure.

[John Q. Citizen]

34. I have never seen anything like this. This is historic.

[Stand and Fight]

16. I'm With You

I'm with you there. I am hoping that something is going on under the radar; however, I just don't see any FACTS that support such a theory. If anything, I can state a bazillion facts to the contrary. I'm truly hoping and praying, but as the hours and days and weeks go by I have a harder time believing otherwise.

[goclark]

17. Forget the proof - March!

When will Democrats realize that we will never find the truth if we don't keep marching to expose it?

Repubs lie about everything and it is excepted as truth.

Forget the dot at the end of the word Truth - March!

[mahina]

41. Resistance documentary, fantastic!

Regarding your call to march- some very effective nonviolent movements from the 20th century, regular people throwing off dictatorships like Pinochet's Chile and Hitler's Denmark to name just two. Well worth the price, or a trip to your college library. Hope you are able to watch this, marching is fine, but check out what organized mass actions can accomplish. We can!
http://thepeacecompany.com/store/prod_audio_aforcemorepowerful.php

[ClassWarrior]

19. In absence of proof, to paraphrase JJ...

..."Keep hope alive!"

And if you want some indication that JK is "working under the radar," see the email that he sent out last Friday, and see last night's "Countdown."

NGU.

[Virginian]

20. How many days after the 2000 election did Al Gore Concede?

I just want to get some perspective as to where we were four years ago. Does any one remember how long the Republicans were harrassing the election boards in Florida? Does anyone have a timeline?

[ClassWarrior]

21. So TG2004 and illuminaughty...

...are we gonna hafta start a TP forum here?

NGU.

[illuminaughty]

42. Yes, we can be "Mystic Warriors"

Because we are definitely in the black lodge now.

I have been careful not to flame anyone here, and that's dicussing the election, Israel/Palestine etc. But don't mess with my TP, man
Somebody posted a negative comment above and I was ready to unleash an irrational post. But either you're with us, or you're against us.

Just think though, it was made almost 14 years ago.
It dealt with the battle between good and evil
The entrance to the Black Lodge is in Glastonbury Grove and fear is the power used to enter. The inhabitants of the Black Lodge need their "Garmonbozia" (pain and suffering) from their victims.
What do they smell when evil is near? Scorched engine oil.
All this occurs in the woods where "the owls are not what they seem"

Hmmm, using fear to control people for power and oil...oh that's just too far fetched. But it does make you wonder about Bohemian Grove.

http://www.sonomacountyfreepress.com/bohos/bohoindx.html

"Through the darkness of futures past, the magician longs to see
One chants out between two worlds, Fire Walk With Me"

And just to lighten things up, this quote

Andy: I'm a WHOLE DAMN TOWN!

[dewaldd]

25. dude, stop wasting my time opening up these stupid grasps for hope

It is up to the people. The politicians have opted out.

[Avalux]

26. Dude -

it's up to ALL of us. How do you know the politicians have opted out? Until we know for sure, don't diss someone for having hope.

[Tuddie]

30. A full-blown investigation may uncover fraud by both GOP & DNC

Perhaps ... that's just my theory.
Time for "We the People" folks.

[darthdemocrat]

35. You may be right

I've heard (admittedly unsubstantiated) Dean supporters cry foul over some of Kerry's primary wins, including vague complaints about exit poll inconsistency if I remember correctly. Maybe there is more to that than I had considered at the time.

I've liked Kerry all along as my personal choice but I have been worried since 2000 about the Dems. I voted for Bill Bradley in the primaries and I was absolutely shocked that Gore never picked up his proposal to provide health care for children.

What I perceived as non-responsiveness to a beautiful and practical idea made me briefly consider voting for Bush in 2000. If taking a good look at Bush hadn't scared me I was planning on giving Nader my vote as a protest.

[truehawk]

36. Say it ain't so Joe

This is what Saracat was hinting on another thread, and what I have heard from some low level paid Democratic Party staff before.
And I just don't believe it.

I DO believe that the Thugs are capable of frameing Democrats. I had a friend that they did that to.
When the procecuter is a Rethuglican with ambitions, evidence can materialize out of thin air.

[TennisGuy2004]

39. Well, in the 1960 election...

there was, frankly, evidence of fraud in Illinois in JFK's favor. The Democrats do have a history of election fraud, unfortunately. But lately, it seems, the Democrats are playing fair, and the Repukes are not. And this electronic voting blows away any fraud we've seen up to this point.

[jbond56]

40. maybe

and if it does they should be held to the same standard. Election fraud is un-American. I think Election fraud should have mandatory minimums and 3 strikes your out.

The fact it could implicate both sides is the biggest reason to add some checks and balances.

If the margin of "victory" is 8-12 times smaller than what can be verified how can you really know the truth?

[lucabrasi]

32. "I'm in the middle of a mystery and it's all secret."

Another one for the DL fans :)

I've thought the same, Jesse and Al Sharpton both being quiet is what really makes me wonder. Even those who still don't think there was fraud must admit that civil rights were trampled in this election.

I just got an email from the Ohio Democrats, excerpt below:

We are doing this to insure that every vote that was cast for President is counted in Ohio. There have been sufficient election count errors and concerns regarding provisional ballots, overseas absentee ballots, under votes (no candidate punched) and over votes (more than one vote punched) that we feel it is necessary to take this extraordinary step.

Throughout this campaign we successfully fought the Ohio Republican Party effort to disenfranchise thousands of new registrants and placed thousands of observers in polling places across the state to help address concerns on election day and to counter any Republican efforts to challenge legitimate voters. We must now complete our due diligence in order that every voter in Ohio had their vote counted.

[Straight Shooter]

37. My only thought about Sharpton is he enlisted the aid of Roger Stone

that sleazy piece of GOP operative we suspect of being involved in the memo fraud on Dan Rather. Stone is the one who advised Sharpton to query Dean about lack of people of color in his cabinet. It was a sucker punch, considering Vermont's demographics, and it caught Dean offguard.

Who knows what else Roger Stone contributed to the Democrats in the early days of the campaign, if in fact he's involved in the backgrounds of those who are being so silent now.