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PeterPan Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:44 PM
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challenge to nevada cetification being heard now
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 03:50 PM by PeterPan
washoe county district is currently hearing a motion to grant a temporary restraining order on the nevada(coincidentally republican)dan burke. the sos is attempting to rush certification in advance of this ruling (like by 3 this afternoon) - challenging republicans in nevada? right on!

some background
posted at http://www.jameshudnall.com/blog2/

I just received an email from Reno, Nevada, journalist Patricia Axelrod, who has written about the use of Depleted Uranium in Iraq and Kosovo, and consequent military and civilian illnesses, among other topics. Axelrod is trying to get public scrutiny of vote-counting in Nevada before the state submits its closet tally to be certified as "final."

"Despite their best efforts to contain me," Axelrod says, "I have obtained a copy of the Washoe County Abstract/Voter Statement and it is very obvious that Washoe and the State of Nevada are playing fast and loose with the vote tally."

"There are at least 2400 votes unaccounted for with no under vote indicated on the tally to adjust for missing numbers. There are a number of other mysterious disappearances of vote to include a total category of voters whose vote was not entered into the final tally. The list of wrongdoings is extraordinary here because there is no oversight at all. I'm it."

On Tuesday, November 23, Axelrod plans to go to court to get a temporary restraining order, "to stop Nevada State Secretary of State from submitting their 'final' tally to the Nevada Supreme Court to be accepted."

Tomorrow is important. When the state supreme court accepts the results, they are forwarded to the US Senate as Nevada's final tally."

She says, "Briefly the Nevada Secretary of State has denied me access to all abstracts/voter statements" other than the data on their website. "I have been met with outright hostility from the Washoe County Registrar Dan Burke, who told me to 'behave myself' when I asked him questions about the county process and final tallys. When I insisted upon explanations he threatened to have me thrown out of the office . . . His direct words were 'shut up and get out or I'll have you thrown out' by police force."

Axelrod is asking for some help with the filing and service fees, which might add up to $300 or $500, in filing pro se on Monday. Documentation from the Nevada Secretary of State's office will be charged at one dollar per page. She says she's being punished for, as they put it, "calling them liars."

(Actually, recount provisions have always been built into US election law. The 2000 election has had the unfortunate effect of calling recounts into question.

Axelrod notes: "Washoe County Nevada is quite important in the grand scheme of electoral politics. Clark County (Las Vegas et al) and Washoe (Reno et al) together make up about three quarters of the Nevada vote. Clark has gone for Kerry... WE need Washoe and we win Nevada."

In other words, these few thousand votes may have shifted Nevada. It's interesting that we're not reading about a story like this in major media outlets. Pass the word along.
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bmoney07 Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:46 PM
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1. Very interesting
We need to keep monitoring this situation- Good work!
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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:50 PM
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2. Did she get the money? n/t
nt
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PeterPan Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:51 PM
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5. she's has raised the necessary filing fees
and has gotten pro bono legal assistance
the next step (if the court grants the restraining order) will undoubtedly cost more
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:52 PM
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7. I sent her some moola. Here's the latest from her
"Well done friends!

In 36 hours we raised just over $600 dollars for Patricia Axelrod.
Patricia was out there all by herself fighting for a recount in Washoe
County (Reno/Sparks).

Las Vegas went for Kerry, and it's possible that irregularities in
Washoe County could prove the Nevada electoral votes should swing to
Kerry given a proper recount.

This morning I sent a wire transfer to Patricia for $550. I was charged
$50 to do it. PayPal is acting up so I used my own account to make sure
she got the money right away. I can iron things out with PayPal later.

Patricia's original appeal and updates can be found at LMNOP - Lake
Merritt Neighbors Organized for Peace

http://lmno4p.org/nevada

With your funds Patricia has hired a paralegal and has a lawyer on the
case.

Looks like Patricia and company will need further support, so keep
sending these notices thither and yon until we get this recount done.
We'll keep you posted.

Congratulations and PEACE!

Wm
Wm Leslie Howard
webmaster@lmno4p.org
Webmaster
LMNOP
Lake Merritt Neighbors Organized for Peace
http://lmno4p.org

Here's the latest from Patricia.

+==+==+
Dearest Friend...

Give me just a few minutes to collect myself and perform my toilette so
that I don't scare off the valiant paralegal due to arrive.

A lot has happened since last we blogged... so let me brief you on
rapidly evolving mission and legal strategy. I am working with attorney
Martin Crowley... Your donations will pay for the paralegal expenses
icnurred by the Citizens' Contest and Association for Free and Fair
Elections. Now how do you like this acronym CAFFEN - I must confess I
am somewhat attached to it for Coffee keeps my mojo going when by brain
is fried.)

Our paralegal's name is Josh... Our attorney (but not yet of record)
is Martin Crowely.

Please google him I think you'll like his independent spirit. I don't
believe Crowley will sell us out... forgive me attorneys wide and
far...

Josh will also be our webmaster... we're winning! Keep the money
rolling in...we'll need all
we can get if we are to beat back the dragon to save Elections in
Nevada. Should we just call this the DEmand for A REcount Account...
+==+==+

+=+=+=+=++=+=+=+=+
The hottest corners of hell are reserved for those who, in times of
great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.

-Dante, "Inferno," "Divine Comedy," 1306-21.

NOTICE

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distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest
in receiving the included information for research and educational
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BlueDog2u Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:04 PM
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19. I just gave
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 05:04 PM by BlueDog2u
as much as I could, which was not much. Folks, please help out. I have a feeling this effort, though seemingly small, is at least as important as Ohio.

It takes about 2 minutes to do it. Click on the link above, and if you have paypal, its a cynch.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:51 PM
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3. definitely passing on ...
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 03:53 PM by medeak
thanks so much!

Watched the "War Room" documentary this weekend on Clinton's campaign.

When Clinton was called by George Stephanopoulis telling him he was winning by a landslide...Clinton said.."But did we get Nevada?"

Heartwarming to this Nevadan.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:51 PM
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4. Only 5 electoral votes - not quite enough...
- it would take 12 more to make it happen.
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PeterPan Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:52 PM
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6. there's more than just overturning the elction at stake
and efforts to uncover vote fraud in every state (including 'red' ones) is extremely important
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:03 PM
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9. It's the pattern of deception we're trying to uncover
Also keep in mind that Nevada was hit by that GOP operative Sproul, and his company, and potentially thousands of Dem registrations were trashed.

Nevada is very important. It's another one of those states that something just doesn't seem right.

I'm in Oregon, we got hit by Sproul's gang of thugs, too, so I'll contribute to Nevada, (Oregon went for Kerry), and I feel like it's the right thing to do to help find the truth.
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:33 PM
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15. Strait Shooter: Sproul?
Hi Strait Shooter---is there a good link you have for Sproul info? I was following it before the election, but I haven't seen an article about it since.
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PeterPan Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:40 PM
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16. they're mention in the other nevada lawsuit
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:50 PM
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17. oh, thanks!
Guess I should get my lazy butt a'googlin.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:55 PM
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22. He needs to be made an example of...
His actions alone, together with the people willing to testify (wonder how close to him they'll get? - I say let the guy at the top fall in this case.), should be enough to get some action on these issues.

Hard jail time for ANYONE from ANY party who commits such extensive fraud - every count should be a day of jail time... how many years for Sproul and his cohorts does that add up to?
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:07 PM
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12. Still very imporant.
It's more about righting wrongs than getting our guy in office.
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YBR31 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 03:56 PM
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8. someone needs to inform Olbermann and the GAO etc about Nevada issues
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PeterPan Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:03 PM
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10. indeed getting any sort of publicity has been nearly
impossible - i've read patricia's affidavit and it seems like a strong case to me but i'm no lawyer and we can only guess who the judges might be - more soon
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freedom for all Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:25 PM
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14. Iowa,NM,Nev,Flor,Ohio were all stolen...
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 04:26 PM by freedom for all
Looks like all these states were stolen plus a lot of bush vote padding votes in other states..Iowa, New Mexico & Nevada would flip real easy if recounted..They have a total of 17 EV's which would make it a tie 169-169.. bad news unless 1 repub would flip flop...but if not it would go a long way to show fraud and no mandate.. If 3 states got recounted and all 3 states flipped it would really make a big statement about our voting system.. It would be much better to get recounts in Florida or Ohio to flip and i hope so.. But i think the other 3 states would flip easier and could make a bigger statement about fraud then just 1 state.. best case is that all these 5 states will flip to Kerry.. in Ohio & Florida we have to fight the SOS and some repub courts.. maybe in the other states it would be more friendly.. Hopefully Bev will take care of Florida and the Green/Lib will take care of Ohio..We still need to work on the other 3 states if possible..
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:39 PM
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23. son told me all IA votes have been recounted by hand
at least that's what I understood......I didn't ask him how he knew this

any Iowans????????
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:13 PM
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27. Off topic, but it's a mix in Iowa
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Hobbes199 Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:04 PM
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11. Kick
Kick
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PeterPan Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:10 PM
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13. i just heard from patricia and the case has not been dismissed
which is fabulous
she will let me know the status of the restraining order as soon as she knows
a small victory!!
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BlueDog2u Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:57 PM
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18. Burke needs to be arrested
His intimidating tactics, if they are not illegal under Nevada Law, are probably illegal under some federal statute, and if they aren't already -- well, then, hasn't even the &&%%$! NYT just called for complete transparency in elections, meaning that we'll need some federal laws to back it up.
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PeterPan Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:24 PM
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20. clarification - cast of characters
sorry for any confusion caused in my earlier post

dan burke is registrar of voters in washoe county

ronda moore is deputy secretary of state in charge of elections

dean heller is secretary of state

all are named in the affidavit
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BlueDog2u Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 05:43 PM
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21. This is the behavior I am referring to
He is a public official, not a member of the gestapo. How dare he threaten to have someone arrested for requesting public records of an election?


"I have been met with outright hostility from the Washoe County Registrar Dan Burke, who told me to 'behave myself' when I asked him questions about the county process and final tallys. When I insisted upon explanations he threatened to have me thrown out of the office . . . His direct words were 'shut up and get out or I'll have you thrown out' by police force."
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:41 PM
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24. Thats the problem with these Republicans officials
they are changing the rules to suit themselves in every area but our media is too stupid to point out the obvious. These officials are supposed to do exactly what your saying. They are violating the public trust.
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BlueDog2u Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:12 PM
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25. Correct
Apparently we need stiffer penalties for such violations.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:05 PM
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26. kick
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