CNN Lou Dobbs (Kitty Pilgrim) just covered Vote Problems more!

[demodonkey]

More along the lines of AB, but now mentioned the "partisan" politics behind the machines, Fraud (groups paid to collect registrations that were fraudulent), long lines, numerous complaints, more!

Still saying this election is perceived to be fair, but creeping the doubt in??

[Eloriel]

1. Oh, good. Glad to hear it. n/t

[havocmom]

2. Then discussing Ukraine and all the things that indicate vote fraud

AND THEY ARE THE SAME STUFF THAT HAPPENED HERE!?!?! What is the problem with Americans? Are we so far from the fight for freedom that we just think we can coast?

Arrrgggg, Is the time up already for our nation?

[Wordie]

9. I know, the irony of it has been getting to me all day. n/t

[KoKo]

3. That's good news. Had given up on Dobbs show. Thanks! n/t

[Doremus]

5. Lou Dobbs is one of the good guys ...

... and it's about time he started talking about this.

The Ukraine story was the perfect lead-in to it too. I just wish he'd go after the story as aggressively as he does outsourcing.

[shelley806]

10. I absolutely agree; also felt the same about Aaron Brown; both

Lou and Aaron were being blackballed by yours truly until they addressed the election fraud potential and they both discussed it tonight. Bit by bit; drip by drip...but at least it's starting to penetrate the veneer of MSM. Maybe they will all jump on the ratings band wagon and sink themselves into the truth.

[Triana]

4. 'percieved' to be fair?

So was 2000. Perception is not reality. It ain't the truth. Our mission is to get the truth out there and shatter what we know is that erroneous perception about a 'fair' election in 2004. We know damn well it was anything BUT fair.

[demodonkey]

8. I know it was unfair, you know it was unfair, but Mr./Mrs. Middle America-

...don't necessarily know that yet. So these little segments are gradually introducing the idea to the American consciousness...

It's amazing most Americans are IMMEDIATELY able to accept the idea of Fraud in the Ukraine election, but we as Americans have been conditioned all our lives to believe that WE are above all that. Hence I think it is a GOOD THING that this is coming out slowly in MSM in regards to our USA election. Drip, drip, drip will eventually wear away stone.

[geo]

18. "Perceived" is a wiggle word. Be happy!

Hi all,

This is actually a good sign. When journalists use wiggle words like "perceived" they are consciously acknowledging the distinction between perception and reality. This is nothing but good.

I've responded to a lot of media theory and p.r. posts in the last couple days. I spent a couple years editing and writing news for a CNN affiliated news radio station in L.A. and might be able to add some thought and clarity to what actually happens in a newsroom (on average).

I've noticed that main stream media is really begining to cycle election news into their newscasts. One thing I noticed as an editor (and one of the youngest they ever had at that station) is that if I really paid attention I could (at times) break an east coast story faster than mainstream media because most newsdesks are so completely reliant on other media outlets. Two quick examples: JFK Jr's plain goes down and I see it on the mediapage tape. The wall of TVs to my right don't say anything about it. I check the wires; nothing. As I am making a call to verify I see MSNBC break it. I verify it and it's broken in our market. A second example. Phil Hartman murder suicide: Reporters on the scene say there is some chatter that Phil Hartman is shot but nobody is confirming and it L.A. media wasn't getting anywhere fast. Even though we had a firm belief the story was correct we couldn't run it. I am at the end of my shift, and we are getting call after call from other media types asking if we have had any word (we had a cozy relationship with TV news, for the most part) and if memory serves CNN had even called asking if we had anything. So, being off the clock I jump on the computer and access tax assessor records (property profile) for the address in question. Sure enough Phil Hartman is the owner on title. We can now run with the fact a murder suicide happened at Phil Hartman's home, etc. Had I not performed this task off the clock the story would not have broken until later in the day.

A little lengthy, but I think you can see some of what drives coverage just in the little bit I have shared. Newsrooms are largely understaffed, have a keen sense of journalistic integrity, and no matter how badly one wants to break a story, there are certain drivers behind that effort. Main stream media may have its biases at times, and may offer less than stellar coverage, but that's what we get for allowing the airwaves to become increasingly monopolized by large corporations who see the news as the cost and the commercials as the product.

We should be happy they are covering the story, wiggle words and all. It is far less dismissive that what they could be saying. Not that I think the dismissive attitude was ethical either...

Hope that helps! :)

Warmly,

George

[gerrilea]

6. It' about time someone saying something other than us! But...

With Turkey just a day away...these things can get "lost" in the shuffle...so to speak...I hope not...

[GetTheRightVote]

7. I hope Turkey does not get in the way of Democracy

How awful would that be, election news story lost among non-flying birds .......... more at 10 tonight.

[SimpleMan]

11. We all should write Lou Dobbs...

...and tell him he was right when he warned us over and over about the possible voter fraud from these new voting machines. He seemed to really care about the subject.

Tell him he was right...and send him info on one or two "irregularities" that stand out to you. Make it short, sweet, and to the point. I wouldn't be surprised if he does a whole lot more on this when he sees that we noticed his warnings in the first place.

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?9

[Us vs Them]

13. Done. Thanks for the link! n/t

[Stand and Fight]

12. Kick!!!

I'm about to go to bed, but I want to respond to this -- we have to keep this kicked.

Lastly, we need to take a page from the Ukrainians and march on the White House in strong defiance. Protest this dammed vote fraud. Hell, are we going to let ourselves be over-shadowed by the Ukraine action? Let's tear some shit up and be heard!

[Diane R]

14. Kick

Kick

[pauldp]

15. NO PAPER TRAIL = NO DEMOCRACY!

...I just like that one as a sign slogan

Hell Yes! March Now!

[proudtobeadem]

16. kick

[proudtobeadem]

17. kick

[jamboi]

19. bump

[madmadmad]

20. just sent a nice letter to mr. dobbs. n/t

[proudtobeadem]

21. kick!!!

[vanboggie]

22. Just sent my thanks, especially since...

...I sent my disappointment with Lou for not covering the story last week. I'm happy to see the crack in the wall.