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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:20 AM
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Plane crash with B* #1 yesterday? Or am I dreaming. Suicide of
Barton Watson? Or am I dreaming? George H. Bush's favorite Book? Catcher in the Rye. Book found associated with Hinckley (family friends of Bush) and Lennon's assasin? Catcher in the Rye. Am I dreaming?
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 03:06 AM
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1. No you're not dreaming...
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:29 PM
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2. Thanks for the link... Wish I was dreaming. Do you know who the
victims of the crash were?
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:02 PM
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7. No, I was wondering the same thing, funny how the couple of articles I
found didn't mention it.Hmmm?
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:33 PM
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3. I don't follow you. Can you spell it out for me? Barton is related to
book how? Sorry I'm not up on this.
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 07:17 PM
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4. Barton was the CEO of CyberNet which might be related to Diebold
electronic voting machines. Another CAE(?) of Ohio Diebold died in a mysterious plane crash a while ago. The plane crash a few days ago was ? who knows? Maybe related? I don't know who the people are who died. They have nothing to do with the book "Catcher in the Rye" which was found in the possession of Reagan's attempted assasin, Hinckley, (whose family was very close friends to the Bush's and had contributed to his candidacy when he was VP to Reagan), and Lennon's assasin who also had a copy of the book, "Catcher in the Rye" which is one of 3 of B* I's favorite books. Sometimes too many coincidences are just not coincidental.
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 07:27 PM
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5. You sure do have detailed dreams! n/t j/k
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 07:27 PM by Chimpanzee
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 07:42 PM
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6. ?? eom
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 12:19 AM
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11. ?? eoy
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:28 PM
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8. Did you know JD Salinger served with Henry Kissinger and Richard Helms
in the US Army Counter Intelligence Corps?


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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:41 PM
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9. Interesting. Salinger
also reportedly was a pedophile.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:53 PM
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10. Bush, too.
From John DeCamp's The Franklin Cover-Up, recounting the testimony of Nelly Patterson Webb:

Nelly first brought up (GHW) Bush in 1986, when she told Julie Walters about the sex parties she was flown to in Washington and Chicago. She saw Bush at two of these parties, she said, one in each city.

Nelly also told Walters that one frequent party-goer with {Franklin Credit Union CEO and prominent Nebraskan Republican Larry (not CNN's Larry)} King was a boy named 'Brent,' the one who was 'flown to another city somewhere' after a falling out with King. Walters did not have the time to cross-check this information with the life of Brandt Thomas, the Boys Town resident who had moved in with Larry King. Franklin credit union files contained a letter signed by King, in his capacity as Youth Affairs Committee advisor for the National Black Republican Council, listing Thomas as one of two national contact people for NBRC campus chapters.

Three years later, with an investigation of abuse by King and the Webbs finally underway, Nelly was interviewed again. Speaking to Franklin committee detective Jerry Lowe, she repeated her account of the Chicago party, and said that Bush and the two men he arrived with appeared to have left the affair with a young black man she called 'Bandit.'...

Bush's name surfaced again in Lowe's May 1989 review of reports by Thomas Vlahoulis from the state attorney general's office: "both Kimberly and Nelly brought up the name of George Bush and indicated that they had both met him." There is a psychologist in Omaha who used to work for the CIA. In response to a direct question by an Omaha psychiatrist regarding George Bush's private life, this psychologist reported hearing rumors when Bush was head of the CIA, that correspond directly with the inferences made by Nelly Webb, and commented to the psychiatrist, 'But how do you investigate your boss?'"


And from the "Omaha" chapter of Webster Tarpley's unauthorized (no kidding) biography of Poppy:

Sound crazy? Not to Steve Bowman, an Omaha businessman who is compiling a book about the Franklin money and sex scandal. 'We do have some credible witnesses who say that "Yes, George Bush does have a problem.".... Child abuse has become one of the epidemics of the 1990s,' Bowman told GQ....

Mrs. Julie Walters, now a housewife in the Midwest, confirmed that in 1986 she had interviewed the alleged child prostitute, Lisa, who told her about Mr. Bush. Lisa and her sister Tracey were temporarily living at the time in the home of Kathleen Sorenson, another foster parent. Mrs. Walters explained that at first she was very surprised. But Lisa, who came from a very underprivileged background with no knowledge of political affairs, gave minute details of her attendance at political meetings around the country."


From Julie Walters' 50-page handwritten report:

3/25/86. Met with Kathleen and Lisa for about 2 hours in Blair questioning Lisa for more details about sexual abuse.... Lisa admitted to being used as a prostitute by Larry King when she was on trips with his family. She started going on trips when she was in 10th grade. Besides herself and Larry there was also Mrs. King, their son, Prince, and 2-3 other couples. They traveled in Larry's private plane, Lisa said that at these trip parties, which Larry hosted, she sat naked 'looking pretty and innocent' and guests could engage in any sexual activity they wanted (but penetration was not allowed) with her.... Lisa said she first met V.P. George Bush at the Republican Convention (that Larry King sang the national anthem at) and saw him again at a Washington, D.C. party that Larry hosted. At that party, Lisa saw no women ('make-up was perfect--you had to check their legs to make sure they weren't a woman').

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/09/why-do-people-say-such-terrible-things.html
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:55 AM
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13. Please read post # 12. I would appreciate your opinion. n/t
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:44 AM
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12. Interesting. And I didn't know and still don't know without proof. I do
Edited on Sat Nov-27-04 01:45 AM by shelley806
know that I searched (Googled) Bush and Catcher in the Rye a few weeks ago because I had read a thread on DU that had mentioned Reagan's attempted assassin's brother had been a friend of Neil Bush and was to dine with him the day after the assassination attempt. This story was covered in the Houston Post (Houston Post now deceased) and was eventually hushed up/covered up. If the assassination of Reagan had been successful, GHB would have been President.

I couldn't remember the name of the assassin later, when I wanted to research the Neil Bush connection, but I did recall the book that was associated with Hinckley, because I really enjoyed the book and was sorry that it was associated with an attempted assassination plan on President Reagan. So I searched for Bush and Catcher in the Rye thinking that the search would reveal the name Hinckley. It didn't, but it did reveal an interview with George Bush #1 Academic Achievements in which he stated that of three favorite books, Catcher was among them. I wasn't expecting this, nor did I welcome the information. I didn't find what I had been seeking; that is, the name of Hinckley. That name came in later searches, which linked Hinckley and Neil and 'W' to Lubbock TX and then later to Colorado.

Neil Bush was to have dined with Hinckley's brother the night after the attempted assassination of Reagan...All of this I just 'happened upon.' And the book that Hinckley had in his possession was Catcher in the Rye. http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/bus0int-1

This is too strange for me. Truth really is stranger than fiction.
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