Check it out--106% turnout in Wyoming! (on SOS website)

[Carolab]

http://soswy.state.wy.us/election/profile.htm

last row, middle of right hand column....

[The Flaming Red Head]

1. We were talking about that in this thread, too.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x78196

[whistle]

2. When their native (is he really from Wyoming) son, VP Dick Cheney...

...speaks, the electorate of Wyoming jumps, even to the tune of 12,400 more voters than were actually registered. It must have been all of those extra absentee ballots that were mailed out. Not to worry, the situation will be thoroughly research and applied by the republicans in 2008 to cheat in even more state elections. It will be pretty hard to beat Arnold Schwarzenegger if say a couple of million Austrians are given absentee ballots to use along with illegal aliens being allowed to cast provisional votes at polling places across the country. How old will KKKarl Rove be in 2008? Does Rove even like foreigners? I suppose he won't care as along as his candidate gets elected.

[bullimiami]

3. hey they had 101% in 2000

must be george bush. he just brings them out in bigger than possible numbers.

[ooglymoogly]

16. no it was the voting machine gods

they favor some districts more than others.

[JD Lau]

4. well, what do you make of that?

Have many other states had percentages of turnout over 100?

Is this something to mark as "check into this further"?

I haven't been looking at percentages of voter turnout, so I'm not informed on this.

Comments?

[nodictators]

11. Some states, MN and WI, have Same-Day voter registration

The Wyoming web site linked has some voter registration info, but it doesn't give any registration deadline. A check of Dirty Dick's CrookTeton County Clerk's office produced a dead link.

[clydefrand]

5. Hey! It just means vote and vote often!

[righteous1]

6. One question

Why in the world would anyone waste there time and fool around with the Wyoming tally when Bush won the state 69% - 29% it would be ludicrous to expend resources to effect a count that wasn't even remotely close

[The Flaming Red Head]

7. It would be good place to pad the vote (No one's going to look) nt

[righteous1]

8. The more you fiddle

with the results, thw greater the chance you'll get caught. Roves band may be a lot of things but stupid isn't one of them. The risk/reward simply doesn't pass muster

[goddess40]

9. You are spot on -

I think many of the deep red states did a little padding so * would have the popular vote too. Last time the reps stole the electoral vote and they wanted both this time.

[tsuki]

10. Fraud is fraud, no matter who wins.

Fraud is a bipartisan issue.

[dewaldd]

13. Pad it where it won't be suspected so that W can win the popular vote

[dewaldd]

12. Wyoming does have same-day voter registration

http://www.bettercampaigns.org/standard/display.php?StoryID=30

[The Flaming Red Head]

14. kick

[The Flaming Red Head]

15. Awe, Cheney brought along some friends to the polls

http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2004/11/06/news/wyoming/1ce8c61e348f3f1187256f420000028d.txt

snip

"Having Wyoming's Dick Cheney on the ballot has probably driven our high voter turnout the last two presidential elections," Meyer said.

Cheney, who grew up in Casper and has a home in Jackson Hole, was the running mate of George W. Bush the past two presidential elections.

There were reports of precincts running low on ballots in a number of areas Tuesday.

More than 600 people registered Tuesday at the precinct in the Albany County Public Library in Laramie.

"It doesn't surprise me we had so many new voters," Albany County Clerk Jackie Gonzales said. "It was a very busy day at the polls."

Laramie County made copies of ballots Tuesday evening because of demand from precincts, County Clerk Debra Lathrop said.

"Only two polling places ended up using the photocopies," Lathrop said.

About 3,000 people registered at the polls Tuesday in Campbell County.

E-MAIL THIS STORY

http://www.jacksonholeradio.com/news.htm

snip

While the Presidential Race is too close to call there's little doubt how one Teton County Resident will be voting. Incumbent Vice President Dick Cheney is scheduled to fly in to the Jackson Hole Airport this evening, and will vote tomorrow morning at his home precinct in Wilson.

[shraby]

17. Even with same day registration, the tally is for

registered voters, same day or otherwise. The tally shouldn't be less than the amount of votes cast.

[masshole1979]

21. link?

[Cowboy Joe2k]

18. Pretty easy to get 106% when Machines over vote.

[Jersey Devil]

19. Does Wyo allow election day registration? If so, that would account for it

If you have a state that allows registration on election day (some do) and a large number of people turn up at the polls and register the total voting could exceed 100% of the registration list that existed before election day.

Before jumping to any conclusions, do we know if Wyo allows election day registration?

[masshole1979]

20. yes they allow same-day (see above), but the real question is...

...do the same-day registrations get included in the registration figures posted on the website or not?

[John Q. Citizen]

22. Also, even if the same day reg isn't included, are they saying they

had a 100% turn-out plus the new registrants?

[latteromden]

23. Very possible

Minnesota has same-day registration, too, and I remember we hit 101% of registered voters voting one year (although we had the highest voter turnout in the nation, and I believe our reg. voter turnout was only at 95%, and Wyoming's was 106%, which is weird but not particularly suspicious, even though it DOES damage my Minnesota pride :cry:). Wyoming was also 11th in the nation in 2000 for VAP (voting age population) turnout, so it's really not too far off to be suspect.

[latteromden]

24. Oh, and

I know the MN SOS Elections page does NOT include same-day registration in their tallies, but they DO include the votes cast by those same-day registrants. I don't know about Wyoming, but unless there's some indication otherwise, I would assume they do the same.

[Cowboy Joe2k]

25. Kick!

[Cowboy Joe2k]

26. kick

[daleo]

27. This sort of thing was cited as evidence of fraud in the Ukraine

Although, I recall 96% being the highest turnout, that was used to make the case for fraud. But, everything is different there, apparently.

[Technowitch]

28. Figures.

[Cowboy Joe2k]

29. Voter turn out of 85% is making the case for fraud in the Ukraine

does the Ukraine have same day registration??? I find it interesting the Powell can use high voter turn out to make the case for fraud in he Ukraine, and Wyoming has a voter turn out of 106%

[texpatriot2004]

30. The United States of Hypocrisy under BushCo.

Good thing our government officials and our media are looking into the Ukraine issues eh? I mean Wyoming with only 106% - like the Brad Blog says, W is for Wyoming. So if they are looking at the Ukraine with only 85% then Wyoming is next, right?

[bones_7672]

31. MAYBE BECAUSE OF SAME-DAY VOTER REGISTRATION n/t

[geo]

32. someone should call the Wyoming S.O.S.'s office...

and get their take on this. 106% may be good in sports, but not in elections. :) - G

[LiberalAndProud]

33. State voter turnout hits high mark

CHEYENNE (AP) -- Wyoming voters turned out for Tuesday's general election in numbers not seen in the last 26 years, causing some counties to rush extra ballots to precincts.

The secretary of state's office counted 245,646 voters unofficially statewide. That is 65 percent of the 376,359 residents who are eligible to vote in the state.

"This was an exciting election day in Wyoming, with many people registering at the polls," Secretary of State Joe Meyer said Wednesday.

Since 1978, the next-highest turnout of eligible voters was 63.2 percent in the 1992 general election.

The 2000 general election brought out 61.9 percent, and 62.9 percent turned out in 1996.

In general, more people vote in presidential election years than in non-presidential election years.

The lowest turnout in a general election since 1978 was 48.3 percent in 1986.

Tuesday's election turnout exceeded the number of registered voters in the state, Meyer said.

The number of registered voters before Tuesday's election was 232,396, meaning the ultimate voter turnout among registered voters was about 106 percent, Meyer said.

http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2004/11/04/news/wyoming/1ce8c61e348f3f1187256f420000028d.txt

[Critical Thinker]

34. No way of challenging 107% at this time

As others have said above, Wyoming calulates turnout percentages by diving the total number of ballots cast by the number of registered voters on the rolls the day before the election. This allows Wyoming's "turnout percentage" to exceed 100% because the figure in the numerator includes election-day registrations while the figure in the denominator excludes election-day registrations.

Things get even more obfuscated because Wyoming doesn't post the total number of election-day registrations until well after the election (after all of the registrations have been verified unique by cross-checking throughout all counties).

Unfortunately at this moment, there is insufficient information available to analyze the basis of the 107% turnout - the missing information (the number of election-day registrations) won't be published for weeks yet. So we just can't say whether the "over-vote" was due to lots of election-day registrations or some other, less-legimate, reasons.


Anyhoo, below are a couple of good articles I googled-up from Wyoming newspapers.

State, county officials work to curb voter fraud

By Ilene Olson
Published in the Wyoming Tribune-Eagle

CHEYENNE - With so much attention on today's presidential election and on local races, assuring a fair vote is important for Laramie County Clerk Debbye Lathrop.

"Since Florida in 2000, there is a heightened awareness of the bad things that can happen in the election process," Lathrop said Monday. "Unfortunately, that's what many seem to have focused on. They haven't looked at the safeguards that have been put in place."

Those safeguards include making sure that people don't vote twice by sending in an absentee and voting later in person, or by registering in two counties, she said.

The Laramie County Clerk's Election Office made a printout Monday of all registered voters in each precinct. The names of people who voted early or who requested absentee ballots are flagged and marked with a code to prevent them from voting again at the polling place.

...continues at http://www.wyonews.com/news/more.asp?StoryID=103732

Park County voter turnout, absentees set records
By CAROLE CLOUDWALKER

The 2004 general election made local history for the best voter turnout ever and the highest number of absentee ballots cast in Park County.

County clerk Karen Carter said voter turnout topped 100 percent of previous registrations at 102 percent due to a high number of new registrations on election day.

A total of 13,988 people were registered to vote in the general election, while 14,361 votes actually were cast.

The exact number of new registrations at the polls will not be known for up to one month, Carter said. In 2000 voter turnout was calculated at 98 percent, the previous county record, she added.

...continues at http://www.codyenterprise.com/articles/2004/11/03/news/news3.txt

[Cowboy Joe2k]

35. Kick