Stephanie Miller on CNN right now

[YellowDoginthehouse]

So much for the lockdown, she came right out with it. Please turn your tv to CNN, then write them.

[bmoney07]

1. Stuck here at work with no TV

what is she saying???

[jamboi]

28. What did she say about lockdown?????? t/n

[Chimpanzee]

2. Who is the Bushco plant she's debating - what an ass

[verdalaven]

14. Joseph Perkins

Off the San Diego Union Trib site.

Joseph Perkins is national affairs columnist for The San Diego Union-Tribune and a member of the newspaper's editorial board, specializing in national issues and politics.
Perkins previously worked on the White House staff of Vice President Dan Quayle as deputy assistant for domestic policy. Before that, he was an editorial writer for The Wall Street Journal.



Why don't we all give Mr. Perkins an education? Write to him here-

[e-mail]

[progressoid]

26. Perkins is a dick

He's in our local paper regularly - PEEEEUKE

[verdalaven]

37. and too smug for his own good.

Smug and ignorant. Not a pretty combination.

Sorry, but I just have to rant a little. I do not understand why a guy like this and Republicans like him are not outraged by the thought of election fraud, even by one of their own?! Where do they stop being "Republicans" and start being "Citizens under the protection of the Constitution"? Aren't they able to distinguish one from the other? Aren't their Constitutional rights more important to them than "winning" against the Democrats? And how pathetic is it that they can't win without cheating?

Unfathomable.

[rehema]

56. Perkins has same attitude s Blackwell n/t

[Chipper Chat]

20. Nevah seed him either, but.....

Are all the right-wing media African-Americans now on the White House payroll? It seems to me they are stealthly trying to brainwash blacks into thinking that liberal-bashing is kosher. A Rovian ploy?

[jamboi]

3. What did she say? I didn't get to see it. t/n

[andyhappy]

4. details

I too am stuck at work with no tv!!!

what is she talking about?

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Sorry it will take much more than that for this NO TEEVEE

household to turn the teevee on

[tridim]

6. Bushbot Re:Ukraine/US election irregularities: "Get over it"

Blah blah blah.. Grrr..

[jamboi]

12. I caught the end, and Stephanie was asking Y Ukraine gets press but not us

I missed the beginning.

[T Roosevelt]

7. I just caught the end

they talked about the intelligence reform being held up and finished with Ukraine - Stephanie was trying to keep from laughing at the irony...

[YellowDoginthehouse]

18. She also found it ironic...

that we would be concerned about Democracy for only part of Iraq-but then again, she said-we only have democracy in part of America-certainly not in Ohio and Florida.

She was great!

[jerryster]

67. Florida 2004 or 2000 or both?

I didn't see the show. Did Ms. Miller refer to Florida in 2000? I remain convinced that is where we have our best chance at bringing down Bush.

[helderheid]

WOoT GO GIRL!

She compared the elections in the Ukraine to ours in the US - said Alanis Morrisette should write a new version of "Isn't it Ironic" and said "I know no one is paying attention but there is a recount going on in Ohio right now and our elections are being investigated by the GAO - why is the liberal media not reporting on this? I think the Ukraine should have fair elections too but couldn't we start in Ohio?"

[YellowDoginthehouse]

19. She sure did, and that's an exact quote!n/t

n/t

[Goldeneye]

8. She was great

News guy:"Stephanie, Stephanie, we're flat out of time."

Stephanie: (laughing) "I won't be invited back will I"

News guy: (laughing) "Oh yes you will."

don't count on her being back though...news guy sounded on edge

[Hieronymus]

9. Thanks, I caught the last couple of minutes.

The idiot debating her tried to deny any similarity between our election and the one in Ukraine.

[Scout1071]

10. Just watched it

What a load of bullshit. As soon as Stephanie started bringing up the fact that the US uses exit polls around the world to ensure democracy, they both cut her off and started waving their hands saying "it's over, the election is over, get over it" while simultaneously laughing. What's so funny about that?

[JohnnyRingo]

11. She mentioned the recount in Ohio

...They were suddenly "out of time".

She said "I'm not going to be invited back, am I?"

[wlubin]

13. Boy oh boy she really nailed it. They were talking about the Urkraine

voting fraud and she came right out perfectly and said, hmmmm, let me see. We say that election was a fraud because the exit polls were wrong? Well that is exactly what happened here. Yeah baby, you go girl! Never heard of her before, my first time seeing her. I think I am in love :).

And that jerk off guy she was debating was like ho ho ho chuckle chuckle chucke. So you still think our election was a fraud, how rediculous.

JERK OFF MORON!!!

[dzika]

15. A saw a bit of it...

The interviewer tried to ask question about the situation in the Ukraine and exits polls in the Ukraine. Stephanie tried to make her answers about exit polls in the US and the issues in Ohio.

I thought she did a pretty good job or forcing the issue considering that she was on CNN.

[pat_k]

16. She was great

I'm not familiar with her, but she was great! Last question was on the Ukrainian election. Her answer was wonderful. Started with "I'm trying not to burst out laughing..." Her fascist counterpart jumped in with "oh, you're going to compare what happened there to this past election, conspiration theories, (sputter, sputter...). She was great. Perhaps the clip will be available later.

[helderheid]

21. I'm also not familiar but looks like I need to get

a Sirius radio for my birthday!

http://www.stephaniemiller.com/

[LisaL]

23. The sick bastards don't even see the irony, do they?

When they mumble on and on about Ukrainian election.

[Skittles]

30. they know g.d. well the U.S. election was a sham

of course the way they deal with it is to deny it.

[goclark]

17. Who is Stephanie Miller?

[wlubin]

24. Go to her website:

http://www.stephaniemiller.com/

It says that she is on Serius Left radio

Is it just me, or is she hot? hahahaha :)

[Straight Shooter]

31. Is Stephanie Miller hot? Well, does Anthrax Coulter have an Adam's apple?

As a woman, I would have no problem whatsoever if I looked like Stephanie Miller.

http://www.stephaniemiller.com/Home_Page/home_page.html

And a terrific logo:

[YellowDoginthehouse]

33. Who owns Sirius?

I was thinking of getting XM until I read that Murdoch owns it. Who owns Sirius?

[wlubin]

45. Don't get xm. I am not sure who owns sirius, but I do know that sirius

broadcasts airamericaradio in its entirety, but xm chops it up.

[Spiffarino]

50. Dammit...I wish I had known that

...before I got my XM radio! AAR is horrible on XM. They break up the shows, not all are live, and they put so-called "liberal" Allen Colmes on at 10:00pm. When my contract is up I'm selling it and getting Sirius.

OK, bad pun.

[YellowDoginthehouse]

57. Thanks for the heads up on XM. n/t

[understandinglife]

44. My letter to Ms Miller

(FYI: no pride of authorship here so if any of you would like to cut/paste/edit and send on to not just Ms Miller but others, feel free to do so (in a separate email I have thanked her for her statements on CNN)):

Subject: Request you ask yourself and your listeners 3 simple questions

Good afternoon Ms Miller,

I request you ask yourself, your friends and associates, and your listeners these three simple questions. I also request you post these questions on your website:

1 Did you vote?

2 Do you remember for whom you voted?

3 Do you know IF and HOW your vote was counted?

Fact is, for most of us the answer to #3 is, no and no.

That fact is what threatens our franchise. The responsibility for that franchise is each of ours.

The fact is that because the answer to # 3 is 'no and no' we have nothing to certify.

Add that to the 57000+ complaints already filed with Congress and we have not had a valid election.

And, consider the implications of the Volusia FL lawsuit:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/24/115048/86,

and the following analysis of not just 3 but 16 States:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=79760&mesg_id=79760&page=

By asking those three questions and offering the simple message "Prove My Vote Counts, Now" we might be able to convince our fellow citizens that it is time to repair the fundamental mechanism by which our franchise legitimately operates. I detect from your mission statement that you agree.

Now is not the time to pass, now is not the time to propose a 'study' in the future.

Now is the time to have the courage to ask the questions and organize all our fellow citizens to demand a "Halt and Audit."

This election is not over and we must not allow it to be hijacked.

Thank you for all you are doing to save our franchise and Happy Thanksgiving,

Bob

"It's about America" - currently on life support and in need of immediate, massive, heroic treatment.

[zann725]

41. Wasn't her father a VP Candidate with Goldwater?

[Kat45]

48. We get her radio show on Air America here in Boston.

I listen to her when I'm driving to work, and I really like her. As a matter of fact, this morning she mentioned that she was going to be on CNN today. But I couldn't watch it because I was working then.

[YellowDoginthehouse]

22. Please email CNN and thank them n/t

n/t

[rosyhue]

27. will do

CNN needs to know we support this woman & applaud them for giving her coverage

[wlubin]

29. At the end of the segmant she said to the moderator that " I guess

you will not have me on again". And the moderator said "Sure we will". He could be lying, but maybe he meant it. well actually what does he know about who they will let back on and who they will not.

[rosyhue]

34. she said that?

she sounds ballsy.

[wlubin]

42. Yes that is exactly what she said.

[Nordic]

60. thank CNN for what? They helped get us into this fucking mess

I despise CNN. They need to be shut down. I will never thank them for a goddamn thing.

[GoSolar]

25. Wow!

Wish I had seen this. She's great!
:D

[Liberalynn]

32. A bit off topic

but she is the same one who hosted "I've Got A Secret" on Oxygen right?

[proud patriot]

49. Yes

I was just checking out her website
here's a link to that page
http://www.stephaniemiller.com/Home_Page/TV_Girl/Oxygen_Channel/oxygen_channel.html

[dzika]

35. Here is the part of the interview I got

before my Tivo stopped...

Interview on CNN Live Today with Stephanie Miller and Joseph Perkins, National Affair Columnist for the San Diego Union Tribune.

Interviewer: Ive got two topics I want to get to but let me take Ukraine very quickly. Give me a sense, and Joe sort of frame this war so we understand why this is so important; what's going on there. Ah, Why we should pay attention to what's going on with this disputed election in Ukraine in our living rooms here at home.

Joseph: Ah, I think that we should be concerned because it appears that there have been massive irregularities. I know that Putin accepts the results of the election and sent a congratulatory message.

Interviewer: Yes, Very quickly.

Joseph: I question whether or not this election was fair.
Interviewer: OK, and Stephanie what are your thoughts on it?

Stephanie: I'm just trying not to burst into laughter, um...

Joseph: Are you trying to liken what happened in Ukraine to what happened in this country? Come on, Stephanie.

Stephanie: Um, Yes I am. Yes, in fact, I am"

Joseph: You are still disputing the outcome of the election.

Stephanie: I think that Alanis Morriset needs to do a new version of "Isn't it Ironic". That we are saying, and this is how we determine the validity of elections around the world is exit polls. That's how we got Chevinarzi(SP?) out of office is because exit polls didn't match. Why is nobody in the liberal media covering why the exit polls were only wrong where there was no paper trail in electronic voting machines. I know we aren't paying attention but there is a recount going on in Ohio and a Congressional investigation. I agree that we should have fair elections in the Ukraine but, gee, I'm just think that Ohio would be a good place to start.

Interviewer: Stephanie, Stephanie, we are out of time.

Then my Tivo stopped. I'm sure the transcript will be available soon.

[99Pancakes]

55. When the truth comes out

they conveniently ran out of time? I appreciate her gutsiness in that interview.

Stephanie....
:yourock:

[Nordic]

61. "Interviewer: Stephanie, Stephanie, we are out of time."

Disgraceful.

[jrthin]

36. As honorable a cause

you may have, I REFUSE to turn on CNN in my home.

[ClintCooper2003]

38. My ongoing debate with Mitofsky. READ IT!

Can someone please make this a main post. I actually used to write on this blog under a different screen name, so I'm actually not "new" to posting stuff. Anyway, here is the first email I sent to Mitofsky (the exit pollster who worked for the main networks on election night), on Nov. 24, 2004:

"I was just wondering something. Those late afternoon exit polls that were weighted by gender, party ID, age, and race, and placed ALL OVER the cnn.com website with charts and graphs of every conceivable type for every single state in this country - are you trying to tell us that THOSE EXIT POLLS were the same ones that were casually leaked earlier in the day?

Is that the shit you're shoveling on us now?"


Here is his reply, from Nov. 25, 2004:

"There were no exit polls weighted by gender, party ID, age or race. That is not part of the exit poll weighting. Second, the exit polls on the web were not released by us. They were leaked by people I don't know, the numbers they leaked were wrong, and I have no responsibility for bad information I did not put out. All the numbers I released were after the polls closed. All the projections were correct. If you think that is shit you can eat it, for all I care."


Here is my reply to that, from Nov. 25, 2004:

"I'm not talking about the numbers put "on the web." I'm talking about the numbers put on cnn.com that were there until PAST MIDNIGHT on election night. Are you suggesting that some hackers got a hold of cnn.com and put the numbers favorable to Kerry there and you didn't do anything about it for SIX HOURS!

That seems completely incredible to believe. Additionally, the numbers on cnn.com didn't appear for each state until directly after the polls had closed. And yes, I'm sorry, but I distinctly remember the percentages of voters that were Democrat, Republican, Female, Male, etc... and they clearly had been weighted at least to the extent that they represented the general voting population in each state.

If what you say is correct about cnn.com's figures, then there definitely would have been an uproar at CNN and Wolf Blitzer would have come out strongly against the web numbers IMMEDIATELY saying that those numbers couldn't be trusted.

I smell a rat."


And here is his response, where he sort of changes his tune a little, from Nov. 26, 2004:

"I am sure cnn posted numbers we released. How old the numbers were when you saw them is something I do not know. Furthermore, the numbers you are describing are not the estimates we used to make projections. The projection numbers do not come from tabulations of the vote by age, sex or anything else."


So now he's admitting they're HIS numbers. Here is my response to him, from Nov. 26, 2004:

"What would the point be in posting numbers very late in the day that would be useless in creating projections and leaving them there past midnight, when it would already be clear who the winner was in each state? You must at least admit that waiting to recalibrate the data until long after it became clear who the winner was creates the appearance of fixing the exit polls to match the results.

Additionally, however, I think you should look at the following data I was able to grab from election night:

In the original Ohio exit poll, among White Men (40% of survey), Bush gets 53% and Kerry gets 47%. Among White Women (45% of survey), Bush gets 53% and Kerry gets 47%. So among these subgroups, the percentages are the same.

Now, on the corrected data, suddenly we find that among White Men (still 40% of survey), Bush gets 56% to Kerry's 43%. And among White Women (now 46% of survey), Bush gets 55% to Kerry's 45%.

Thus, the proportions of White Men and White Women are almost exactly the same in both the afternoon release and the subsequent "correction" of figures

Additionally, I distinctly remember that the sample size remained almost precisely the same from the first set of figures to the second.

Your response may be that the very last people who voted on election day in Ohio tended to be Bush voters and that the mid to late-afternoon figures were skewed in Kerry's favor, but there really would have had to have been a huge shift to Bush right towards the end to overcome Kerry's strong early lead in Ohio.

Also, this is simply provably false in any case. Nearly all of the polling stations that still had long lines at the end of the day were in Democratic precincts, meaning at the very end of the voting time-frame, there would have been a shift towards Kerry anyway.

Now, in your response to me, you said "how old the numbers were when you saw them I do not know..." Did they leave you out of the loop as to what numbers they were using? If so, I don't understand why you weren't more actively involved.

Another important thing I want to make clear is this: I followed cnn.com for a long time on election night and I noticed that cnn.com did not even put up the exit poll figures until the polls had closed for that particular state. Therefore, the numbers that were used this year, by default, must have been numbers that came from later in the day than in the Election 2000.

I went back and looked at some of the "raw" numbers from Election 2000. What I noticed was that the "uncalibrated" data from 2000 (which, by the way, was released a bit earlier in the day than this year) was simply far more accurate. In fact, among the battleground states only Wisconsin was off by more than 5%.

Let me ask you something: Have exit polling techniques changed radically over the last few years or has the way we count the votes changed radically over the last few years?"

I'm awaiting a response and will post it immediately when it arrives.

[Blue in the face]

39. Great stuff, Clint!

Keep us posted. And get a hardcopy of Mitofsky's words, I really think that they can be useful depending on the Ohio recount.

[mikelewis]

63. This needs it's own thread and Kick the hell out of it when you update.

[pauldp]

62. Kick Ass

What's up with this guy Mitofsky anyway?
Is he an administration stooge or what? I heard he replaced the people who did the 2000 exit polls. Does anyone know anything about that?

Dr. Steve Freeman puts it too him in the latest version of his paper too.
www.appliedresearch.us/sf/

Good Job Clint.

[pauldp]

68. Posted it as a new thread Clint

called "Is Mitofsky Hiding Something? Back and Forth with the Pollster"

[shelley806]

70. OOPS! Thank you! How did I miss that one. Glad it's been posted...

n/t

[shelley806]

69. Clint, has this been posted as a separate thread yet? If not, let

me know, and I'll do so. Title of thread will be all that's needed. Or maybe, your title as is, is OK.

"My ongoing debate with Mitofsky. READ IT!"

At any rate, someone let me know. Thanks for the interesting post.

[proudtobeadem]

40. kick

[GrapplerHK]

43. Link

Heres the link for todays CNN Live Today transcript:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/26/lt.01.html

No mention of the conversation you describe, though.

[dzika]

46. Transcript is here

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/26/nfcnn.02.html

HARRIS: OK. Give me a sense -- I want -- I've got two topics I want to get to. But let me take the Ukraine very quickly. Give me a sense -- and Joe, sort of frame this war so we understand why this is so important, what's going on there, why we should pay attention to what's going on with this disputed election in Ukraine in our living rooms here at home.

PERKINS: I think we should be concerned, because it appears that there have been massive irregularities. I know that -- that Putin accepts the results of the election and sent a congratulatory message.

HARRIS: Very quickly, yes. Yes.

PERKINS: But I question whether or not this election was fair.

HARRIS: OK. And Stephanie, what are your thoughts on it?

MILLER: I'm just trying not to burst into laughter. I'm sorry.

PERKINS: Are you going to liken the election in the Ukraine to what happened in this country, Stephanie? Come on now.

MILLER: Yes, I am. Yes, I am.

PERKINS: You are still -- you're still disputing the outcome of the recent election?

MILLER: I think Alanis Morisette needs to do a new version of "Isn't it Ironic?"

We are saying -- and this is how we determine the validity of elections around the world, is exit polls. That's how we got Scherbernadze (ph) out of office, because the exit polls didn't match.

Why is nobody in the liberal media covering why the exit polls were only wrong where there was no voting -- where there was no paper trail with electronic voting machines?

There is -- I know we're not paying attention, but there's a recount going on in Ohio. There's going to be a congressional investigation. I agree -- I agree with fair elections in the Ukraine. But gee, I think that Ohio would be a good place to start, too.

HARRIS: Stephanie -- Stephanie, we are flat out of time.

MILLER: I won't be invited back, will I?

HARRIS: Yes, you will.

Stephanie and Joe, good to see you both. And that's a good lively debate. And that's what we wanted today. Thank you very much. Happy holidays to you.

[understandinglife]

52. Thank you! (n/t)

[pointsoflight]

47. Be sure to ask CNN to bring her back!

[TangledThorns]

51. Totally Off Topic

Miss Miller needs a nap as she was totally off topic in the debate.

[IAMREALITY]

53. Miss Miller Was Incredible

And just what we needed. Someone to force the topic on the MSM. She did it wonderfully.

I hope we have a thousand more like here emerging in the coming days.

Go Stephanie!!

[savistocate]

54. We can compare our US election's credible irregs to Ukraine's &toBush Cos.

WMD mirage in the desert of Iraq. Fraud & lies more fraud & lies. Tha GWB "victory" equally as credible and legal as his war.

[missouri dem 2]

59. I think that you have been napping.

You seem not to see the irony of powell and lugar, * calling for "fair" elections in the ukraine while we have massive vote fraud here in the U.S.

[saracat]

64. What is wrong with you? We need people to

go "off topic" if that is what it takes to introduce the subject in MSM. BTW it was the interviewer that first brought up the US. Miller was laughing and he asked her about the US election. So it was on topic! And they were talking about elections!

[Spiffarino]

66. What's wrong with him?

You're a donor. Check out his previous posts. Nuff sed.

[Spiffarino]

65. Tough - let her take it to the sorry assholes

They aren't going to bring it around to that topic. In case you haven't heard, speaking of election fraud is off-limits within the "liberal media."

One more thing, TT...George W. Bush is not Jesus, nor is he Jesus' representative on Earth. He does not know Jesus, and vice versa. He is an amoral, lily-livered, narcissistic Mammon-worshipper. And Karl Rove is the son of Baal.

Disagree?

[mackdaddy]

58. Stephanie is on the Radio in Columbus OH too

She is on the station which carries Air America programs. She gets a lot of callers from central Ohio and is well plugged in to the local situation in Franklin county.

[shelley806]

71. Thanks for the info. I didn't know who she was until I read some of

the links posted here. I wish that I hadn't missed the interview. The irony indeed; Thousands protesting in Ukraine, and thanking B*!! I makes me ill.

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