I hereby pledge to no longer kick disruptor threads.

[ClassWarrior]

My first inclination is to answer these “depression bombs,” not for the sake of convincing the original poster – after all, if they’re here to disrupt, they won’t be convinced – but to keep the faith for frustrated and discouraged souls who might wander into those threads and be easily swayed by manipulative arguments that claim our leaders have abandoned us and therefore there is little hope for fighting this vote FRAUD battle.

But no more. I have come to the conclusion that disruptor threads are like “Supertrain” and “Who’s Larry.” Ignore them and they’ll go away. The only thing feeding the trolls is our attention. So I say let’s starve ‘em to virtual death.

Who’s with me??

NGU.

[RevCheesehead]

1. You KNOW I am!

:hi: Wave from Mom's computer!

[proudtobeadem]

8. Here! Here! I'll second that . :)

[ClassWarrior]

19. Hugs Rev... I figured you would be.

I give thanks for you and DUers like you. How was your T-Day?

NGU.

[New Earth]

2. i am

you're one of the people here who keep me going, and let me know i'm not alone :)

[RaleighNCDUer]

3. I want to agree,

but it's hard to resist slapping down a Freeper.

[ClassWarrior]

22. I can relate. That's why I had to take the pledge.

But we're stronger than they are.

NGU.

[AmyCrat]

4. While I agree with you

and somewhat practice this myself already -- I also think that some "devil's advocate" role playing can be good. We HAVE to consider all sides so that we follow up and do the research to gather the REAL evidence. We can't do that if we just blindly believe -- then we are as bad as the sheep that follow the herd.

[New Earth]

5. i think he is referring more to the threads that say there is no hope

for humanity ever ever again, we are doomed to all hell in eternity, etc etc so let's just all give up now - kind of threads.

[AmyCrat]

6. I didn't take it that way

I took it in response to some of what's been going on with possible "freepers" who argue some of the theories. Regardless, the ones that talk about hope can help keep people motivated. If, for example, I feel there's no hope and post about it, you have the opportunity to tell me why I should stay hopeful, and in a lot of cases you'll convince me. We can all encourage each other, because a LOT of us have had a hard time waiting and waiting through the silence of the democratic party, Kerry, MoveOn and a lot of others who we had faith in before the election.

[NVMojo]

14. sorry, there was too much the same about the freepers who were

arguing theory on Madsen and comments I saw on the freeper website.

[ClassWarrior]

26. Sorry, but I don't consider...

"We'll never have elections again..." or "All our (Dem) leaders are wimps..." or "Kerry's just sipping lattes in the Heinz mansion and laughing..." or "I'm through with the Democratic Party once and for all..." or even "Here's what we did wrong..." to be theories.

I consider that to be DISRUPTION - PLAIN AND SIMPLE. It's one thing to believe this theory or that theory, that JK's fighting or not fighting, that counting will overturn the results or won't overturn the results.

But to run roughshod through this forum, shitting on the hopes and positivity of real DUers who are motivated to make a silk purse from this sow's ear of an election, or to further depress frustrated Progressives who have stumbled upon us seeking a little hope in these bizarre times - THAT reaks to high heaven of disruption. And I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF IT.

I think anyone at DU who knows me knows that I am always willing to share hope with a fellow Progressive. I take to heart Rev. Jackson's legendary admonition, "Keep hope alive." But the people to whom I refer are not the ones who are asking for hope. They're the ones who systematically go from thread to thread, insisting that all hope is lost for Progressives - even against all pleas and attempts to convince otherwise.

Doesn't it surprise anyone else that this forum is chock full of all kinds of names you don't recognize? Doesn't matter whether their post counts are high or low - we've all heard the Freeper tricks for going deep undercover at DU and building one's post count (and once again it's the Radical RWers who are the cheaters) - they were nowhere to be seen before Nov. 3.

Yes, it's sometimes frustrating that Skinner and crew don't just outright ban certain posters. But you have to admire their defense of the free exchange of ideas, and you have to recognize that that is one of the things that has always made our country and our party great. The solace is that, while the trolls are given plenty of rope, they do eventually hang themselves.

And yes, it's frustrating to hear little from Kerry, the Dem leadership, MoveOn.org, and others. But to me it's even more frustrating to hear people who claim to be on our side call it "silence" as you did, Amy. And that was mild, compared to what others have alleged over the past few days.

I can name a litany of our leaders who HAVE spoken up over the past few weeks - and I'm sure you can too. Perhaps not as many, or as loudly, as we'd like. But do you expect the corporate media whores to suddenly be on our side and start reporting this stuff?? I don't. What's more, if there's even a possibility that the leadership ARE covertly working a plan, then we should respect that - while doing all that WE can to fix our fucked-up election system. Hell, set an example for the presumed slackers, if nothing else! Remember, when the people will lead, the leaders will follow.

You want somebody to make some noise?? Then YOU make some noise!! Call, write, email, and VISIT your elected officials. Stage a sit-in at your local branch of the corporate media. Bring together the Progressive groups in your community and organize a rally. Volunteer to go to Ohio. BE a catalyst for change. If there is a plan, WE're definitely a part of it. So get working and quit whining.

If you don't believe that JK and the party are fighting, fine. I respect that, and I understand that. But for some posters to put so much time and energy into ridiculing everyone who DOES believe does none of us any good. In fact, it does us harm. We're the party of respect, responsibility, opportunity, and hope, and these disruptors demonstrate none of those qualities.

Let's not forget who's the real enemy. The Radical RW and their enablers in the corporate media. Not your fellow DUers who are coping with a nasty situation as best they can. And not our party's leaders who still are our standard-bearers - at least until we run for office and replace them. Let's use our energy here to build one another up instead of tearing one another down. If we do that, the disruptors lose any power over us they may have had.

Peace.

NGU.

[marions ghost]

58. Newbie not quite agreeing with you

Classwarrior, your intention to protect the innocent is well-placed I'm sure, but I feel you go a little too far.

I DO AGREE THAT
Ignoring Disruptors is effective.
Replying with the "I Believe" link is great idea.
Moderators can deal with the repeat offenders via "alert." When I see them get ignored and tombstoned there's a certain catharsis in
that justice is done. The site seems well-moderated to me.
-----------------------

I DONT AGREE THAT
..."names you don't recognize" at DU are suspect.
...Use of word "silence" is somehow inappropriate to describe the sense of frustration in our leaders' absence. (It's factual).
...We are "whiners" if we express a little worry and frustration in these perilous times. For me, it helps to see that our distress is mutual, and then I am even more inspired by the responses.

I'm a writer and PR-oriented, and I'm as sensitive as you are to the nuances of words. But Freedom of Expression is my obsession. I think that your message of Everybody Must Be Positive, put forth as a "rule"--can lead to self-censorship.

Re Media--actually I do think the media whores will come around--late. They will see that there is a big vote of NO Confidence in them...and that other resources are developing to overcome the Spin and the Silence. On Nov 3, I vowed to Move On...from MSM. It was all too obvious that the Thought Police finally had control.

[ClassWarrior]

61. YOU DONT AGREE THAT...

..."names you don't recognize" at DU are suspect.

I never said ALL names I don't recognize are suspect. But I'm sure most regulars will agree that there's been a MASSIVE influx of new names - with both high and low post counts. There's got to be a reason for this. Can YOU explain it?

> ...Use of word "silence" is somehow inappropriate to describe the
> sense of frustration in our leaders' absence. (It's factual).

It's not factual. It's deceptive. Our leaders haven't been "silent." Conyers gave a brilliant interview on Countdown, he and some 14 other Congresspeople signed a letter asking the GAO to investigate. Jesse Jackson announced a rally for Sunday. And Kerry himself sent out the video to supporters. In the grand scheme of things, that's mighty quiet. But that's not "silent." "Silent" is absolute, and if you can't see that distinction, you must not be much of a writer.

> ...We are "whiners" if we express a little worry and frustration in
> these perilous times. For me, it helps to see that our distress is
> mutual, and then I am even more inspired by the responses.

I understand "a little" worry and frustration. As I said above, I'm only too glad to offer comfort and hope to despairing Progressives. But I'm not talking about "a little" worry and frustration. I'm talking about serial screamers. People who post threads entitled, "Some background on why recount efforts, protests are WORTHLESS" (an actual thread title), and refuse to accept ANY reasoning or comfort - only bile. People who invariably have names most of us never seen before.

> I'm a writer and PR-oriented, and I'm as sensitive as you are to the
> nuances of words. But Freedom of Expression is my obsession. I think
> that your message of Everybody Must Be Positive, put forth as a
> "rule"--can lead to self-censorship.

Obviously you AREN'T as sensitive as I am to the nuances of words, given the fact that you think "silent" means a low rumble. I have no clue how you got from "I refuse to support threads by people who are overwhelmingly and viciously negative" to "Everybody Must Be Positive." If you call my personal pledge to restrain myself imposing "a rule" on everyone else, your problems with the language are worse than I first suspected.

Either that, or you're deliberately distorting my words. Now why would you do that?...

NGU.

[marions ghost]

62. OK have everything your way... since you must

An influx of names you don't recognise at DU could have to do with a increase in interest, it seems to me. And you are always going to get the bad with the good in an open forum. Obviously you want a club of "regulars." Doesn't make me feel very welcome-- I guess you
like to play the *Insiders Only* game. (F that)

Yes, I am a good writer. Excellent in fact, and well-certified. I don't appreciate your negative value judgments (for ex-- "your problems with the language are worse than I first suspected"...) Overall, your lofty "get back in your box" tone drips with excess Superiority...I take you to be a very high-class class warrior.

MY HUMBLE OPINION: the word "silence" implies no strong negative judgment in the context of the Q "where are our leaders?" How else can absence be described? "Awfully quiet" means the same thing. If you disagree, it's fine to explain why, but instead you seem to want to chastise the DU member who used the word (and in this 2nd post you further labelled the use of "silence" as "deceptive"--which is a very negative and strong criticism, that I'm sure the writer did not mean). My point is that this puts a chill on expression since people aren't always perfect in their word choice. Hey, lighten up is all I'm saying. No biggie. It's only Schmantics, at this level of debate. We're both on the Nitpicky Level here.

I read the thread "why recount efforts are worthless"...it was totally drowned out in my mind by the positive rebuttals and the fact that the writer had no real good argument. That sort of exchange can often end up CONVINCING someone who might be wavering ...they conclude that it DOES need to be done. Nobody is defending serial screamers--your advice to starve them is good. I will be doing that from now on.

No need to reply, Classwarrior. I see your mind is closed and you must ALWAYS be right on every single point. I said I agreed with you in general, but apparently I can have no further input. All you want is total approval. Outta here. Bye bye. (I'm sure you'll want the last word. It's yours).

[New Earth]

63. why is everyone taking this so far?

ALL he was saying is that he is tired of the NEGATIVE posts, saying the democratic party and/or American people are doomed to hell, the world ends tomorrow, give up on Kerry, give up on the election, the election is over, etc etc. I'm sure he didn't mean to directly offend ALL new members.

[marions ghost]

64. Read Amycrat Post 4

Amycrat (post 4) sums up the answer to your question very well--and more briefly than I did, Faye. But we are saying the same thing. She sees the "we all must think alike" overtone to classwarrior's message as well. I am not alone.

In the first post Classwarrior makes me (a newcomer) feel like I am a suspect. In Classwarrior 2nd post, s/he IMPLIES than only "regulars" are invited. In the 2nd post CW also makes several personal characterizations of me as a writer (which s/he has no idea about). That is unneccessary to make his/her point.

The point is about Freedom of Expression-- that's all I can say. If you don't see it, then OK, I realize it's a subtle point. But I'm not the only one who sees a potential problem if you edit language to a very fine degree. Of course we are all against Disrupters who use a lot of negative excess, but I was saying that you have to be careful not to limit free expression. People will censor themselves all too easily if they feel even the slightest bit intimidated, even if the message is coming from one of their own.

Believe me--I'm for letting this branch die out. I will move on.

****Here's an idea--how about a forum for discussion of freedom of expression? There may already be one, but if not....then we could
debate the topic in a better place. Where's the suggestion box around here?

[ClassWarrior]

65. Thank you Faye, you summed up my feelings very well.

This poster uses all kinds of clever, sneaky rhetorical tricks, like saying that because I've pledged to moderate myself, and I'm encouraging others to do the same, I'm "against free expression." Or that I'm telling people who are truly interested in exchange to "get back in their boxes," when my beef is only with people who are interested in quashing and ridiculing free exchange.

Or that I am "against all newcomers" even though I have gone out of my way to point out that I'm not skeptical of ALL newcomers - or even ONLY newcomers, given the fact that a number of trolls with 1,000+ post counts have reared their ugly heads - but that invariably the troublemakers are totally unknown to most people who were here prior to Nov.3.

But I take solace in the fact that tricks and deception are ALL the other side has. After all, it's the only way they were able to take the election the last three times.

~hugs~ Faye, my friend.

NGU.

[New Earth]

66. aww

:hug:

[marions ghost]

77. Oh yeah OK You Win You Win

Classwarrior: Read my posts again. Really read them. (and read yours again and try to imagine being a newcomer).

I never said "against all newcomers"--just said I felt unwelcome by your implications about newcomers...read that: IMPLICATIONS.

Said three times I AGREE with your basic message but that I just disagreed with your putdown of the person who used the simple word "silence." (and for that you jump on me and criticize my writing ability in an obnoxious way--of course I can know nothing about words if I would question you).

I explained that I am involved in censorship issues--I guess that's your red flag because disrupters have abused the term in the past.
OK I can see that freedom of expression is a dirty word around here. OK forget that debate. If that's the party line at DU, then I understand that I will have to go along with it. I solemnly swear not to utter the words again. I am muzzled on that subject. OK? OK? Nothing further.

If you try to label me as a Disruptor you are really barking up the wrong tree. Such a heavy-handed response to a very small objection that I wasn't even expecting a reply to!? What do I have to do to prove I'm on the right team here? I have been reading all the forums and finding them so helpful and full of useful information and great suggestions for action. I have written emails, and tried to help out. OK, so no biggie, but it's a start. And I felt so glad to have found this website. I came for solidarity and practical ideas. I'm willing to take your test of Loyalty To the Cause at any time, and a lie-detector test.

Yay team! (Good grief!)

[ClassWarrior]

79. You lied. You said, and I quote...

"Outta here. Bye bye. (I'm sure you'll want the last word. It's yours)" way back in post #62.

Shades of Bill O'Lielly!!

LOL

Oh, and thanks for keeping the thread kicked.

NGU.

[helderheid]

7. GREAT!!

And here is a thread that gives you something to do and will keep you positive:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x79647

My letter will be in tomorrow's or Sunday's paper!

[MarkusQ]

9. Count me in. Don't feed the trolls! (n/t)

[Stand and Fight]

10. Roger that.

I'm with you. I will never stopping fighting the good fight for our democracy -- wherever it has gone. Sure thing though, I'm with the rest of you freedom fighters.

[Chimpanzee]

11. I'm in dammit!!

[proudtobeadem]

12. Instead, kick other threads (esp. important ones) and bury theirs HE HE!

[Name removed]

13. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[ClassWarrior]

80. .

NGU.

[New Earth]

81. who was the original poster above you?

[ClassWarrior]

82. I dunno.

I just noticed it was deleted. :shrug:

NGU.

[txindy]

15. Count me in.

:toast:

[texpatriot2004]

17. I'm a newbie and I agree!

Class Warrior I have been reading your messages for days now. I seek them out - you are very wise - I like your idea above starve them. I thought moderators could and would get rid of trolls? I have much to learn about the language here...like n/t, what's that? I'm sure it's simple. I should probably go to the admin forum to ask questions, right? Anyway, lately there have been many depressing threads at DU. I am glad you are here, and others like you, to rise above it all and stay on purpose. Thank you for thinking about the newbies and others who might be easily discouraged. O8)

[another5bdem]

18. I'd also like to know about n/t and eom and kick and NGU...

Anyone care to set a couple of newbies straight?

:think:

[New Earth]

20. ok

n/t=no text

eom=end of message

NGU=not giving up (i think)

*oh yeah and kick is the same as 'bump' - someone just posts 'kick' to get the topic back at the top of the page.

[ClassWarrior]

21. Thanks Faye.

NGU = Never Give Up, my personal motto.

And welcome to the newbies who are helping us keep the faith.

NGU.

[gumby]

16. What "leaders" are you talking about?

I'm definitely in a "depression bomb" mode.

I certainly don't see any "leaders" on the horizon who are going to "lead" us out of this horrendous situation.

The reality I see is that when a nation goes nazi, the only solution is from without.... and it won't be pretty.

Are you saying that we should reject reality/history and go Somewhere Over The Rainbow?

[bleever]

23. I approve this message.

:thumbsup:

[Blueguy]

24. BY DOING THIS YOUR ARE ACTING LIKE THE CHIMP.

By saying ignore everyone who disagrees with you is being very close minded and forcing your opinions on other people. That’s EXACTLY what the chimp does, and it’s extremely wrong.

Some people don’t agree with you, they should be able to reply post and be heard.

Sorry your wrong.

[ClassWarrior]

27. Where, precisely, did I say to ignore everyone who disagrees with me?

And when did I advocating forcing anything on anyone? I said that I - repeat, I - refuse to help infiltrators disrupt. And while they may have a right to "reply post and be heard," I have a right not to hear them.

If you'd like more elaboration on my position, kindly see my post #26.

NGU.

[Digit]

31. Thank you for posting this

They stand out like a sore thumb, don't they?

[merh]

25. Right beside you on this one!

Let the negative folks wallow in their own self pity and negativity. Let them run around and lay the blame on everyone and not do anything positive in an effort to bring about change. They can have at it.

[gorbal]

28. Yes! I am so sick of all the energy wasted on those threads.

It's like a huge blackhole that sucks all of us into it.:)

[ClassWarrior]

29. One prime example...

The thread currently at the top of the forum entitled, "Some background on why recount efforts, protests are WORTHLESS."

THIS is what I mean. Threads that claim there's no hope - just give up. Sorry. Homey don't play that.

NGU.

[Digit]

32. I began to post a reply it, but just didn't want to waste my time.

Notice that most of them are very low post counts, and I think that their only purpose is to disrupt.
Don't feed em.

[ClassWarrior]

33. I like how the poster says protests are worthless in the original post...

...then in a later post says, "Ukrainians fight, Americans whine." Well, what are the Ukranians doing?? THEY'RE PROTESTING!!!

ROTFLMAO.

But the disruptor's goal isn't to be logical, it is to sow as much despair and confusion as possible to demoralize the other side.

NGU.

[Doohickie]

30. Okay, then.... post to the I BELIEVE thread!

[ClassWarrior]

34. I've seen it, but I never opened it.

(That's why I don't care for blind titles.)

But I don't see it now. What does it say? Where can I find it?

NGU.

[New Earth]

35. here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=46764

read it and you'll see :)

also see this - the supporting replies put together and sent to Kerry Campaign: http://home.comcast.net/~NewGaia11/ibelieve.html

[ClassWarrior]

36. Thanks Faye.

NGU.

[New Earth]

37. so how bout this

whenever a disruptor thread is posted, kick the I Believe thread instead of replying!!

[ClassWarrior]

47. I'm down with that, Faye!

NGU.

[Doohickie]

45. Yeah, thanks, Faye!

[IAMREALITY]

38. I want to respond, but

I don't want to kick a troublemaking thread!!!!!!

Just kiddin, I'm with ya 100%

:toast:

[ClassWarrior]

39. LOL... There are a couple of threads where I'm tempted...

...to jump in and join you, but you're doing a fine job of thrashing their pasty asses all by yourself.

Truly, :yourock:

NGU.

[New Earth]

40. hehe

:evilgrin:

[seito]

41. I agree but...

How do you distinguish a trouble maker thread from one full of many people that are looking for a reason to hope. If you leave it alone, will it necessarily die quickly, or will the naysayers, trolls etc. keep it alive?

Forgive me for being new and naive?

[New Earth]

42. so far my gut has been right

at least two of the posters i've seen since i've been here that i had thought were definately 'freepers' trying to get us riled up - and they have since been banned.

[ClassWarrior]

43. They're not so hard to spot.

Example: the one described in post #33 here.

NGU.

[New Earth]

44. there are two others here that i've been trying to figure out

maybe i''m just bored...they both have over 1000 posts i would swear they have nothing positive to contribute

ok i'lll shut up now

[seito]

46. I appreciate the replies

First, I would like to say

Faye, ClassWarrior, IAMREALITY and Doohickie, I have really enjoyed reading your posts.

As a new person here, one thing that I have found encouraging is to see so many people standing up against the bashers.

If we do not reply, do we not give the impression that the majority of people have drank of the Kool Aid and buy into the blackmail, skull and bones, cowardess, every bit of hope is lost and we have been totally abandoned theories?


:shrug:

[ClassWarrior]

49. Not if their threads drop like like the employment rolls.

And to keep their threads kicked, they'd have to engage in a massive circle jerk among a small, obvious group of trolls.

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

56. And while we can't keep 'em out of our threads...

...at least we won't have their negatively-titled dreck floating to the top of the forum.

NGU.

[mom cat]

57. Sometimes it is very hard not to take the bait, but troll feeding is

self-defeating. Thanks for bringing up the topic.

[New Earth]

48. this should be our theme song!!!

It's Butterflies and Hurricanes by Muse

change,
everything you are
and everything you were
your number has been called
fights, battles have begun
revenge will surely come
your hard times are ahead

best,
you've got to be the best
you've got to change the world
and you use this chance to be heard
your time is now

change,
everything you are
and everything you were
your number has been called
fights and battles have begun
revenge will surely come
your hard times are ahead

best,
you've got to be the best
you've got to change the world
and use this chance to be heard
your time is now

don't,
let yourself down
don't let yourself go
your last chance has arrived

best,
you've got to be the best
you've got to change the world
and use this chance to be heard
your time is now




WOW and if you listen to the song itself, even the music is so moving....almost like he wrote this song for this moment.

[buzzard]

50. Faye listen to this one.

Let me know what you think?


If you tell a lie again and again
It does not become the truth in the end
If your voice is loud and your lies are well heard
Still it does not mean transformation has occurred
Water isn't wine
Brass isn't gold
One day you'll account for all the lies that you told

If you take the forest, if you steal it tree by tree
If you blacken the river if you desecrate the sea
You can wave your arms, you can shout out from on high
But the truth is still the truth and a lie is still a lie

Water isn't wine
Brass isn't gold
One day you'll account for all the priceless things you sold

You can speak of God while you lead your Holy War
As if your hands weren’t stained by the oil you adore
More innocents will die and more soldiers will fall
You name your church for God but it was greed that built those walls

Water isn’t wine
One day you’ll account for all the lives that you stole

Two faced yes fool
Pin striped suit ghoul

You can make a promise and some people might believe
That you are not beholden to the power, to the greed
But if they should fall ill, or their schools should fall down
Should they fall on hard times well I doubt you'll be around

Water isn't wine, brass isn't gold
And it's wrong that we should pay for that crown that you stole
Water isn't wine, brass isn't gold
One day you'll account for all the lies that you told

http://www.blamesally.com/video.html

[New Earth]

51. those are awesome lyrics

and i looked at their page, they look like a bunch of senators. lol

[buzzard]

52. DId you listen to it, it's even better.

[New Earth]

53. no

it said something about folk music. :puke: am i being close minded?

[buzzard]

54. Listen it's short and not really folksy.

[New Earth]

55. i listened! and watched the video

it was pretty good - the lyrics are intense - i choked up a lot, especially when they'd show Bush. good song, thank you! now go listen to Butterflies and Hurricanes!

[MarkusQ]

60. Long long ago, in a Galaxy far away...

CHICAGO
(Graham Nash)


Well your brother's bound and gagged
And they've chained him to a chair
Won't you please come to Chicago
Just to sing
In a land that's known as freedom
How can such a thing be fair
Won't you please come to Chicago
Show your face

We can change the world
Re-arrange the world
It's dying - to get better

Politicians sit yourself down
There's nothing for you here
Won't you please come to Chicago
For a ride

Don't ask Jack to help you
Cause he'll turn the other ear
Won't you please come to Chicago
For the help that we can bring

We can change the world
Re-arrange the world
It's dying - if you believe in justice
It's dying - if you believe in freedom
It's dying - let a man rule his own life
It's dying - rules and regulations, who needs them
Throw 'em out the door

Somehow people must be free
I hope the day comes soon
Won't you please come to Chicago
Show your face

From the bottom of the ocean
To the mountains of the moon
Won't you please come to Chicago
No one else can take your place

We can change the world
Re-arrange the world
It's dying - if you believe in justice
It's dying - if you believe in freedom
It's dying - let a man rule his own life
It's dying - rules and regulations, who needs them
Throw 'em out the door

--MarkusQ

P.S. If you have never heard this, get a copy. Listen to it. Get it inside you. It got a lot of us through the early days on Nixon.

[New Earth]

59. i just disrupted on the georgewbush.org forums

[LiberalAndProud]

67. Signing the pledge.

That way I won't use vulgar language on the board. May fingers are itching.

[ClassWarrior]

68. Believe me, I understand!

NGU.

[seito]

69. I have to confess

I took the bait, but it was only this one time. I promise it wont happen again, probably.

:eyes:

[ClassWarrior]

70. LOL. You're forgiven, my child.

It's hard, innit?

NGU.

[seito]

71. Thank you ClassWarrior

I will try to be strong in the future.

[ClassWarrior]

74. Tough as it is, it's actually very liberating...

To see a thread with an irresponsible title like, "Kerry's Silence Indicates Complicity With Vote Fraud" (YES, this is an actual thread title), and to ignore it completely! I don't even bother to open those warm stinking heaps anymore.

And of course, nothing is stopping us from messing with their heads in our own threads. :evilgrin:

NGU.

[NVMojo]

72. the butt crack crawling freepers need to leave ...

[ClassWarrior]

73. That's another way of putting it...

LOL

NGU.

[Sideways]

76. Trolls On DU Have A Stench I Call LBS

Lingering Butt Stink. I only go to those threads to have an alert fest. I have alerted on over 100 posters in the past two weeks. I hate doing it because I would much rather read and enjoy DU but they need to be exterminated. I want MY fucking board back. These ass hats are evil and obvious. And they need to go like NOW. Thanks for this thread CW.

That being said why are you infringing on my free speech, why are you demanding a loyalty oath, why are you making such a stink about "silence", I am an excellent and certified writer BTW.

Wink fucking Wink. :evilgrin:

[ClassWarrior]

78. Thanks for being diligent, Sideways.

NGU.

[MoonRiver]

75. Kick

:kick: We better all get on board this concept cause disruptor (re)thugs are clearly trying to take over :(