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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 02:57 AM
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Madsen article just after the election ...
...this could be why he was contacted ...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MAD411A.html
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 02:59 AM
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1. ...calling Karl Rove's turd droppings what they are ..
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:16 AM
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3. Juicy Article
I like the idea of a civil suit by voters..
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 03:35 AM
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2. Great catch NVMojo! n/t
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:50 AM
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4. I wondered about that fire, it seemed odd the day after an
election. I think you're right, maybe that's why he was contacted. This whole election just stinks to high heaven. I can feel it in my gut.
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 07:57 AM
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5. NEW STRATEGIZING THREAD FOR US TO COORDINATE ALL THIS WORK
For those of us who want to help connect the dots in Madsen's hypotheses there is a new strategizing thread located below to follow up on all the good work that Eloriel and so many others are doing:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=201&topic_id=5684
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 10:00 AM
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6. I'm still confused about the diebold/ohio connection?
from that article:

"The fact that Diebold machines were used in the Ohio rip-off should make O'Dell  and Timken the subjects of criminal investigations"

We have been told there was no Diebold machines in Ohio,
what is he referring to? I see this all the time in articles.
Also I read that the counting machines might be from Diebold?
Is that true?

Does any one understand exactly if Diebold was involved in Ohio. and to what extent?

Thanks!!
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WiseFawn Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 10:53 AM
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7. I live in Ohio,
Diebold machines were used here. I'll try to find the links and put them here, if I can find it again.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 03:15 PM
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11. Ohio had no diebold machines according to Dennis Kucinich
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1110-31.htm

He mentions this in the above article .I also remember seeing that on the Ohio dems site. Its confusing. So if the central tabulator is GEMS based Diebold is that how there all counted? If that’s the case then it would be very easy to mess with that .

It would be great to get clarity on this since O'Dell is the one who said he would deliver Ohio . I know there has been talk about in DU on other threads but I am still wondering what the facts are with that.

thanks to any one who has that information
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:04 AM
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8. I believe the central tabulator is GEMS based Diebold.
Unable to find a source for that though.
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:17 AM
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9. O'Dell is the CEO of the Ohio Diebold Division. He has contributed
heavilly to B* and has help fundraisers for him, and Promised B* the 2004 Presidential election. O'Dell=Diebold Ohio.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 03:52 PM
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13. Check out this site
It gives vote type by county. Some counties in Ohio use Diebold, but most us ES&S, which is an equal or greater concern.
http://verifiedvoting.org/verifier/map.php?&topic_string=5std&state=Ohio
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geo Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 12:40 PM
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10. you could hear his blood boil while you read it...
...and mine too. I could see why someone would contact him. :) -G
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 03:38 PM
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12. Possible scenerio for the naysayers to consider.
An insider to the hacking of the vote, whether it be a administraive person or a technician or both, becomes disenchanted by the entire scheme because of the failure to get paid what was promised or because they realize the danger they are in (loose lips sink ships) and they contact an attorney to help themselves stay alive and out of jail. The lawyer contacts Madsen and is the one supplying him with the information and documentation to support his client's story. Purpose of Madsen is to put the client's story in the public arena to keep the FBI honest (they can't bury it if it is public) and to keep his client(s) alive. Lawyer may be working with FBI in an effort to get client(s)immunity and protection, but as the admin may be involved in all of this, lawyer cannot trust FBI alone, so having a reporter investigating this adds a level of protection to the story and the clients. The reporter making the story public and keeping it alive on the internet makes sense. IMHO
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:23 PM
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14. Reading this article by
Wayne Madsen..I get so furious all over again. You just know they fucking stole that election, AGAIN!

Fool us once..shame on them..fool us twice, SHAME ON US!!!

There has to be a non violent way we can get bush outta the white house!
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