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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:14 PM
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Update on Rev. Jesse Jackson rally in Ohio tomorrow...
...from http://nov3.us:

Please Read, Act, and Circulate

FROM: No Stolen Elections! www.Nov3.US
ACTION ALERT: Defend the Ohio Recount!

WHAT: Rally to Defend the Ohio Recount
WHO: Reverend Jesse Jackson
WHERE: Columbus, Ohio – Mt. Herman Baptist Church, 2283 Sunbury Rd.
WHEN: 3:30pm, Sunday, November 28th

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(1) PRESS RELEASE FROM THE COBB CAMPAIGN:

NEWS RELEASE
For immediate release: November 26, 2004
Contact: Blair Bobier, Media Director

JESSE JACKSON TO VISIT OHIO SUNDAY AND LEND SUPPORT TO GREEN PARTY RECOUNT DEMAND

Green Party presidential candidate David Cobb's demand for a recount of the Ohio presidential vote will gain a significant boost this Sunday, when Jesse Jackson visits Columbus, Ohio to publicly announce his support for the recount and other challenges to the controversial Ohio vote.

Jackson will be speaking on Sunday at the Mt. Herman Baptist Church, 2283 Sunbury Rd., at 3:30 p.m., in Columbus.

"Voter suppression and intimidation is a civil rights issue. Jesse Jackson is the perfect person to bring these concerns to a wider audience and we welcome his participation," said David Cobb, whose campaign has been leading the charge for the Ohio recount. Cobb has been joined in the recount demand by Libertarian candidate Michael Badnarik.

"We need to investigate, coordinate, litigate, recount and recuse," said Jackson, referring to the recount and other efforts and lawsuits challenging the legitimacy of the Ohio vote.

Jackson's recusal reference indicated his support for Cobb and Badnarik's demand that Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, a co-chair of the Bush campaign, recuse himself from the vote-counting process.

"You don't have an owner of a team be the umpire of the seventh game of the World Series," Jackson said.

Jackson joins Ohio Congressman and former presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich and a growing list of individuals and organizations calling for a recount.

The Cobb-LaMarche campaign is now in the process of recruiting volunteers and raising funds for monitoring the actual recount process which is expected to take place in early December. Volunteers and donors should visit the campaign website, http://www.votecobb.org/, for more information.

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(2) UPDATE ON THE OHIO RECOUNT FROM THE COBB CAMPAIGN:

Dear Friends,

The Ohio Recount is moving forward!

Here are updates on:

1. Volunteering opportunities
2. Our financial situation
3. A timetable of what's to come and what's already happened

=========================

1. Mobilizing Thousands of Volunteers

We'll be mobilizing thousands of volunteers in December to observe the hand recount in all 88 counties in Ohio. A recount without Cobb-Badnarik volunteer observers providing truly independent oversight of the process will not provide meaningful feedback on the problems or do much to improve public confidence in the integrity of the voting system. Please join us by completing our volunteer form at http://www.votecobb.org

2. Giving Thanks for Democracy

Thanks to the generosity of thousands of small donors coast-to-coast, the Green Party's Cobb/LaMarche campaign has already raised $250,000 toward the costs of the recount. $113,600 has gone out the door already to pay the State of Ohio's recount filing fee.

We have been raising the money in phases, since we didn't want to raise more until we were certain the minimum needed was raised. Now that we have completed our grassroots operation planning, we estimate that the recount will cost an additional $88,000 for training and staffing costs (approximately $1000 needed in each of the 88 Ohio counties).

If you value democracy, and the attention that this recount will bring to the many ways that voting processes need to be improved in this country, then please make a donation today by going to http://www.votecobb.org

3. Ohio Recount Timeline

To keep you in the loop, here are past and future dates related to the recount process:

11/10 Green Party Presidential candidate David Cobb announces on KPFK radio that he and Michael Badnarik of the Libertarian Party are considering filing for a recount in Ohio. Hundreds of emails pour in, encouraging the Green Party to take a stand.

11/11 The Cobb/LaMarche campaign confirms their intention to file for a recount in a public statement and press release, and requests donations to pay for the effort.

11/15 Common Cause, the National Voting Rights Institute, Demos, the Fannie Lou Hamer Project and People for the American Way Foundation issue a joint statement in support of the Cobb-Badnarik demand for an Ohio recount.

11/15 The Cobb/LaMarche campaign meets initial fundraising goal of $150,000 (including the $113,600 recount fee needed to file).

11/17 Attorneys on behalf of David Cobb and Michael Badnarik deliver letters to each Ohio county election director, asking them to prepare for the recount.

11/18 Congressman Dennis Kucinich publicly endorses recount efforts.

11/19 Cobb-Badnarik representatives deliver bond to guarantee $113,600 recount fee to each of the 88 Ohio county election directors.

11/20 Two Cobb/LaMarche campaign staff relocate to Columbus, Ohio to work with volunteers on the ground.

11/21 Cobb/LaMarche team meets second fundraising goal, reaching $250,000 in eleven days.

11/21 Cobb-Badnarik lawyers file a request for an expedited recount in federal district court in Toledo, Ohio, so that a "meaningful recount" can take place prior to the December 7th "safe harbor" certification and December 13th meeting of Ohio presidential electors

11/22 The Delaware County, Ohio Board of Elections seeks a temporary restraining order to block Green and Libertarian presidential candidates from forcing a recount of the Nov. 2 election results prior to December 1st. Their request is granted by the judge.

11/22 Federal district court judge denies Cobb-Badnarik request to expedite recount, saying that Cobb and Badnarik do not face "irreparable harm" if the recount doesn't take place until after the December 7 date to certify presidential electors, since they will not have any electors anyway.

11/24 Over 1,000 volunteers have already signed up to help on website at http://www.votecobb.org but many more still needed.

11/28 The Reverend Jesse Jackson to hold rally in support of recount and other efforts to investigate and litigate voting irregularities in Ohio.

12/01 Date by which most Ohio counties will have certified their initial vote totals.

12/04 Citizen electoral reform groups organize a rally to "Investigate all 88."

12/06 Date that Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell currently (as of 11/25) says he will finally certify the vote. Then, as detailed in Ohio Election law procedures, Cobb and Badnarik will formally request a recount and Secretary Blackwell will notify other candidates of their right to have observers at the recount. Under law, other candidates
must have 5 days of notice before the recount can start.

12/07 The "safe harbor" date by which presidential electors in all 50 states must be conclusively determined.

12/11 Earliest possible start date for the Ohio recount, based on recent judicial ruling and Blackwell's current timeline for certification of the state vote.

12/13 Date by which, pursuant to Constitutional mandates, Electoral College electors must meet to cast their votes. This applies to Ohio and all other states.


Again, we thank you sincerely for your interest and participation in the Ohio Recount. With your help, democracy will be served.

Please be sure to volunteer, donate, and circulate this email to your friends and family!

Sincerely,

Lynne Serpe
Campaign Manager
Cobb/LaMarche Ohio Recount
P.O. Box 693
Eureka, CA 95502
http://www.votecobb.org

NGU.


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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:18 PM
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1. Thanks for the info:)
I will post it around if I can:)
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Smirking_Chimp Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:19 PM
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2. this is what we need! nt
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:22 PM
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3. Keep hope alive.
NGU.


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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:00 PM
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9. okay, I'll ask
I've been wondering what NGU means? Am I the only one that doesn't know?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:14 PM
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12. Nope, you're not the only one.
NGU = Never Give Up, my personal motto since 11/03/04.


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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:17 PM
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13. Thanks
Good motto for the times, indeed.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:23 PM
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4. John Kerry and John Edwards should attend.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:24 PM
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5. Your point?
NGU.


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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:55 PM
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6. No point. Just making an observation.
: resigned sigh :

NGU
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 05:13 PM
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7. Sorry, I can't do anything about them.
But can do something about me. And I've volunteered to go to Ohio for the count. Can I persuade you to join me?

NGU.


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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 05:56 PM
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8. It seems that is impossible.
13 hrs 1 way
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:13 PM
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11. My trip would only be a few hours shorter than yours...
...but if that doesn't work, there's lots of other ways to channel frustration into action here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

NGU.


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trayfoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:11 PM
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10. It would appear that
we have no chance of getting anything accomplished, based on this timeline:

12/06 Date that Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell currently (as of 11/25) says he will finally certify the vote. Then, as detailed in Ohio Election law procedures, Cobb and Badnarik will formally request a recount and Secretary Blackwell will notify other candidates of their right to have observers at the recount. Under law, other candidates
must have 5 days of notice before the recount can start.

12/07 The "safe harbor" date by which presidential electors in all 50 states must be conclusively determined.

12/11 Earliest possible start date for the Ohio recount, based on recent judicial ruling and Blackwell's current timeline for certification of the state vote.

12/13 Date by which, pursuant to Constitutional mandates, Electoral College electors must meet to cast their votes. This applies to Ohio and all other states.

Being realistic, where is the good news in this?????????
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Blissfulbride Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:22 PM
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14. I saw this too
and I'm very concerned about it.:(
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:26 PM
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15. Take a look at this thread...
...that suggests the dates are arbitrary and mean little:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x83019

What do you think?

NGU.


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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:33 PM
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17. if we can get strong numbers of people
out there to make a peaceful but Strong protest, it's still possible that MSM would ignore it all -- (after all, even the massive war protests were never "fully" covered with the correct numbers...) a large crowd speaks louder than many little voices....

tracy
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Blissfulbride Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 10:18 PM
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21. I like that perspective
at least its more hopeful
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 06:14 PM
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25. Hi Blissfulbride!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:48 PM
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20. Try to think waaaaaay outside the box...
The real drop dead-dead date is Jan 6th when the Senate votes to accept or reject the Electors votes. Also - it takes only one member of the House and one member of the Senate to contest the election. I realize that the Senate will be majority Republican by then - note, however, that the conservative Republicans in the Senate and House have already pissed off the moderates. With Porter Goss making the CIA spooks really angry who knows what kind of pressure might be brought to bear on certain people.

Further - any/all evidence collected could lead to impeachment or to impetus for people find other charges to impeach Bush.

Finally - and this may seem like small consolation - but I think it is really important - truth matters. We have got to get our fellow citizens to face the truth of this (whatever it is). We don't have a hope of making voting fair without massive public outrage.

Truth matters: most people still don't realize that when the recount of undervotes & overvotes in Florida in 2000 was completed (in 11/01) Gore won. We have to step forward from where we are standing - planning new strategies for attracting conservatives isn't going to fly, I believe, unless the truth is revealed over and over and over until people know what really happened.

:eyes:





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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:29 PM
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16. Cincinnati/Dayton to Columbus car pool?
I'm in the Cincinnati Area -- anyone around here who would like to share a ride (or caravan?)-- Strongly thinking of going to this....
tracy
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:37 PM
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18. Jackson has a silver tongue...
Doesn't this just roll off the tongue?
"We need to investigate, coordinate, litigate, recount and recuse," said Jackson.

Send encouraging email to him at: jjackson@rainbowpush.org

His Chicago Sun Times article - Score!

No change in no-account system by Jesse Jackson
November 23, 2004
http://www.suntimes.com/output/jesse/cst-edt-jesse23.html

:bounce:


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YellowDoginthehouse Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:46 PM
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19. kick
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CantGetFooledAgain Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:44 PM
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22. Kick!
...and by the way, Jesse Jackson, Cobb, Badnarik, Nader, Keith Olbermann, people of DU, and anyone else who has entered the fray:

:yourock:

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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:52 AM
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23. Chicago Sun-Times: Jackson rallies for Ohio vote probe
Chicago Sun-Times

http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-ohio28.html

Jackson rallies for Ohio vote probe

November 28, 2004

BY STEPHANIE ZIMMERMANN Staff Reporter

-snip-
"The Rev. Jesse L. Jackson and the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition are
planning to hold rallies today and Monday in Ohio to press for an
investigation of alleged voting irregularities in the closely
contested state."
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 06:26 AM
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24. Cincinnati Enquirer - "Jackson questions Ohio election tally"
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041128/NEWS01/411280435

The Enquirer (Cincinnati.com)
Sunday, November 28, 2004
Jackson questions Ohio election tally

By Reid Forgrave
Enquirer staff writer

-snip-
"The Rev. Jesse Jackson is to lead rallies in Columbus today and in
Cincinnati on Monday to encourage Ohio to seek an investigation of
the presidential vote. Jackson is to speak at Integrity Hall, 2081
Seymour Ave., Bond Hill, at 8:30 a.m. Monday."
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