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FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 05:57 PM
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Gahanna (yes, that one) was Ken Blackwell's top 10 contributor
Edited on Sat Nov-27-04 06:01 PM by FullCountNotRecount
Gahanna, Ohio, known for a stuffing 4,000 extra votes for Bush in the computer ballot tabulator was in the top ten of giving to Ken Blackwell, the Bush Chairman and Election overseer in Ohio.

http://www.followthemoney.org/database/StateGlance/candidate.phtml?si=200435&c=407276&p=13#geography
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 05:59 PM
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1. Link
Or something?

Please?
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FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:01 PM
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2. there
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:05 PM
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3. Nice find! n/t
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:06 PM
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4. Thanks
Macon, GA almost as much. Hmmm. Strange.
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dewaldd Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:06 PM
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5. what is the per capita average on that?
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FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:14 PM
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6. Might just be a coincidence...
but that town name so jumped out at me I had to post it.
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mackdaddy Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:38 PM
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7. Probably from Contributors in "rich" area.
I lived a few miles from there. Gahanna is an attached suburb of Columbus. It has an older side which has working class homes, and the newer developments have Very large homes and a lot of corporate heads with 500k plus incomes living in the area. This is probably where the contributors for this kind of money came from.

It is quite a coincidence though with the big voting machine count failure from the same area.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:55 PM
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8. The "glitch" took place at the New Life Church which is a right
wing church tied to Liberty University, which I think is interesting. A lot of New Life churches were used as polling places. From the Bob Fitrakis article:
http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/983
The right-wing New Life Church voting glitch is interesting. Free Press reporter Marley Greiner has been tracking Blackwell’s relationship with far right-wing religious forces like Biblical America and Christian dominionist groups that want to establish theocratic religious rule in America. Blackwell was campaigning around the state with the Reverend Rod Parsley as part of a “Silent No More” tour in support of amending the Ohio Constitution to outlaw gay marriage, on the ballot as Issue One. Many mainstream commentators claim it was the widely popular Issue One amendment campaign that brought out Bush voters in record numbers in rural Ohio. Gay marriage was already outlawed by state statute, and six of the seven Ohio Supreme Court justices are Republicans.
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 11:01 AM
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13. *This* is why I've been trying to get people
interested in the "far right wing affecting election" thread I started. There is a pretty clear connection.

Thanks for pointing it out, though!
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 08:05 PM
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9. need to email this to keith olbermann
you know, to round out his story. :)
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 08:23 PM
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10. figures...how about Upper Arlington, where Walley "I guarantee it" O'dell
lives?
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 08:32 PM
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11. Is Gahanna close to Jahanna...Arabic word for Hell?
Or did I make some translation mistake??

Curiouser and curiouser...
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Hobbes199 Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 06:12 AM
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12. I've been thinking it was very similar to Gehenna all along...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gehenna

Original word means "garbage dump" — no offense to OH.
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:23 PM
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14. OK, now I'm freaking out
The biggest individual contributor in Ohio for 2004 looks to be

David L. Brennan of White Hat Management

http://www.followthemoney.org/database/StateGlance/contributor.phtml?si=200435&d=6580394

OK, so what? Here's what... White Hat Management runs charter schools and, oddly, organizations supporting homeschooling (only "odd" if you don't know the connection to Sovereign Citizens Movement):

http://www.whitehatmgmt.com/about.htm

It's based in Akron. Akron is *big* far right/Sovereign Citizens country. Plus there's this little thing in the back of my mind... niggling little thing...

"HOPE Academy High School is a high-tech high school in Cleveland, Ohio, that serves grades 9-10 utilizing leading edge technology in the delivery of curriculum." (from the above link).

Hate to mention it, but isn't Fisher talking about using this kind of thing? Oh, and in Februrary they got a contract to open schools in... wait for it... Florida:

http://www.whitehatmgmt.com/press_recent32.htm

There's something here. There's something here.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:25 PM
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15. It connects to Florida too, hmm
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:39 PM
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18. Did you send this to Bev?
Any evidence/clues need to get into the proper hands.
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 07:13 PM
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21. Well, no...
...I mean, it's not like she *knows* me or something, and would notice my email out of the thousands they surely receive. They're so busy, would they even have time to track down some wild stuff like this?
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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:29 PM
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16. kick
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:35 PM
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17. Gahanna...Gehenna...Hmmm...
Gahanna, is a city in Ohio where Bush got "blessed" with 4000 more votes than he actually earned through a right-wing church...

Gehenna, in the bible, is another word for "hell"; the so-called place of the prince of darkness...

Except for two vowels, does anyone else see the irony in these two places? :D
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FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 06:13 PM
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19. Ha Ha Ha Ha Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Ha Ha Ha Ha
That's the best devilish laugh I could come up with...
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 06:54 PM
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20. Whatever happened to the 3000 to 4000 vote discrepency?
I read somewhere previously that computer scientists had said that the "error" doesn't make sense in computer terms. In other words the programs should have made errors across the page and not on one candidate and also that the error should have been much more astronomical in binary code terms. So how did Ohio resolve this issue? And how did they explain it? Its one of two things. An computer error that doesn't act like a normal computer error or it was put there by a human being. Which is it and does anyone have any source info on this anomilie?
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 07:40 PM
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22. Here is the Columbus Dispatch story......
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 07:41 PM by seriousstan
Officials from the board of elections and the machine's manufacturer have ruled out internal tampering or outside computer hacking as the cause of the error, Anthony said, although they're still trying to determine its exact cause.

The error occurred when a voting-machine cartridge was plugged into a laptop computer at one of the locations from which precincts transmitted their results to the board after polls closed.

The cartridge was read correctly at the board of elections office, Anthony said, and its later totals matched the Gahanna voting machine's internal tapes.

The error, which gave Bush 4,258 votes in a precinct with only 638 voters, has been cited throughout the country by those who suspect either fraud or faulty technology defeated Democratic Sen. John Kerry on Nov. 2 in Ohio and nationwide. Subsequent counts found Bush with 365 votes in the precinct, to Kerry's 260.

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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 08:22 PM
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23. yes, I'm sure it was read "correctly" at the BoE. n/t
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 09:14 PM
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24. There are 6 levels of redundancy, the other five were fine.
Three paper tapes and three registers in the memory module. Only one register in the memory module read incorrectly. That is what the redundancy is for, to catch errors. While it made a cute national interest story, you can't ride this pony to outright condemnation of the machine or the results.
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 11:32 PM
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25. So what your saying is that there was no chance
the laptop was hacked when it went online to the BOE? Because that would fit the theory that most people have that hacking took place during uploads to or from the Central tabulators. Still it leaves my other question "how is it possible only Bush was affected by this error?" Computer scientists say it doesn't make sense. Also it is odd that Bush got that number of votes. It would fit the description once again of a hacker going down the precincts and just adding 3 or 4000 to each. How is it possible that this one register in the memory module came up with this number is what I'm asking I guess? Thanks for helping me understand this Stan.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 11:42 PM
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26. They have not been able to duplicate the error
The theories range from the cartridge was not inserted correctly to the cartridge was removed prematurely. Having worked the polls that night, I would lean toward the latter as it is an error you would make due to haste.

As for the hacking, there are 6 levels of redundancy. One of the paper tapes is posted the night of the election at the polls after they close, visible for all to see. I think the true question is why would someone go to the James Bond like trouble of secretly hacking an uplink and then change the numbers to such an obviously impossible combination.....4000 for Bush, 300 for Kerry and a total of 640 having voted??

You understand that there are ALWAYS multiple representatives from both parties present at every stage of the election.
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