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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:47 AM
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The true question we should be asking ourselves
Why was it that any poll that favored Kerry is considered skewed and any poll that favored Bush is considered correct?
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chicagojoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:50 AM
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1. Must be that damned liberal media at work.
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i_got_2_get_away Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:52 AM
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2. Ask...
Ask whoever is running the media output.
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:53 AM
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3. Because...
The Republicans control the official message. People in this forum will change that by keep mounting pressure on mainstream media outlets and elected officials.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:54 AM
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4. It's time to stop asking these questions
it's time to GET BUSY and GET THIS THING OUT THERE.

STOP THE CERTIFICATION.

PASS OUT FLYERS.

PETITION CONGRESS, YOUR REPRESENTATIVES AND THE MEDIA!

GET OFF YOUR BUTTS!!!!!!!!!
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lowmanknows Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:55 AM
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5. I KNOW I'M NEW PLEASE LISTEN ANYWAY>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/politics/news-article.aspx?storyid=26823

This is odd. Say you wanted to rig an election. How would one do it? What would be the easiest way to do it, without involving too many people? A good old fashioned "crisis." Scare people away from the crime scene so the dirty business can be done. Everyone knows that if Kerry was going to win he would need OHIO or FLORIDA or both. Those are the only two that would need to be messed with to assure victory for either side. In Ohio there was the famous "Warren County Lockdown" because of "terror" threats. What about the less infamous "Bomb Threat" at the State Elections Office in Tallahassee the day before the election. I guess my point is this....... The only two places that needed to "fixed" (Ohio& Florida) both had a scare tactic applied to a government building the day of, or the day before the election. If they both had the same "crisis" on the same day it would look odd even to people who are not avid news watchers.
The State Elections Office in Tallahassee holds what? The main tabulating computers. It would actually be easier to hack in the main tabulating computers before the actual election because you can place "kernels" in place and never have to mess with it again, and you would still get what looks like "actual" results. The Warren County Courthouse holds what? The optical scan equipment that can be hacked into and votes can be messed with from as low as the local level and as far as the state and national level. By doing it this way you would actually have control before and after the election and you run a smaller chance in getting caught because your using to different modes at two different times.
To get this done all you would need is 2 or 3 people in Ohio and Florida to get this done. Not an army of computer hackers. Does anyone else besides me notice that there were means, opprotunity, and motive here? This even explains the exit polls......

Thank you,
Stacy Lowman





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i_got_2_get_away Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:03 AM
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6. TRUE INDEED...
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 02:04 AM by i_got_2_get_away
Funny, how can anyone really predict that a state or states would determine the result? So that means the result were already done.

Damn, right. We need 2 stop the questions and do something but even if uwe did the Patriot Act we'll come on us and restrict us. Then we'll just be labelled "anti-american". So what can we do? Push the flyer harder? Will that work?

What else can we do?
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:04 AM
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7. Welcolme to DU Yes Wayne Madsen
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lowmanknows Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:18 AM
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8. Listen this is my theory not madsens I've been posting this for a while
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/politics/news-article.aspx?storyid=26823

This is odd. Say you wanted to rig an election. How would one do it? What would be the easiest way to do it, without involving too many people? A good old fashioned "crisis." Scare people away from the crime scene so the dirty business can be done. Everyone knows that if Kerry was going to win he would need OHIO or FLORIDA or both. Those are the only two that would need to be messed with to assure victory for either side. In Ohio there was the famous "Warren County Lockdown" because of "terror" threats. What about the less infamous "Bomb Threat" at the State Elections Office in Tallahassee the day before the election. I guess my point is this....... The only two places that needed to "fixed" (Ohio& Florida) both had a scare tactic applied to a government building the day of, or the day before the election. If they both had the same "crisis" on the same day it would look odd even to people who are not avid news watchers.
The State Elections Office in Tallahassee holds what? The main tabulating computers. It would actually be easier to hack in the main tabulating computers before the actual election because you can place "kernels" in place and never have to mess with it again, and you would still get what looks like "actual" results. The Warren County Courthouse holds what? The optical scan equipment that can be hacked into and votes can be messed with from as low as the local level and as far as the state and national level. By doing it this way you would actually have control before and after the election and you run a smaller chance in getting caught because your using to different modes at two different times.
To get this done all you would need is 2 or 3 people in Ohio and Florida to get this done. Not an army of computer hackers. Does anyone else besides me notice that there were means, opprotunity, and motive here? This even explains the exit polls......

Thank you,
Stacy Lowman

P.S. This is not madsens theory it's mine. I came up with the scare tactic lock down and bomb threat....He did not come up with this I did.If you check out the Hartmann site it will show this. They have nothing to do with each other.



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lowmanknows Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:57 AM
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9. Are you on drugs? Madsen's theory has nothing to do with mine......
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/politics/news-article.aspx?storyid=26823

This is odd. Say you wanted to rig an election. How would one do it? What would be the easiest way to do it, without involving too many people? A good old fashioned "crisis." Scare people away from the crime scene so the dirty business can be done. Everyone knows that if Kerry was going to win he would need OHIO or FLORIDA or both. Those are the only two that would need to be messed with to assure victory for either side. In Ohio there was the famous "Warren County Lockdown" because of "terror" threats. What about the less infamous "Bomb Threat" at the State Elections Office in Tallahassee the day before the election. I guess my point is this....... The only two places that needed to "fixed" (Ohio& Florida) both had a scare tactic applied to a government building the day of, or the day before the election. If they both had the same "crisis" on the same day it would look odd even to people who are not avid news watchers.
The State Elections Office in Tallahassee holds what? The main tabulating computers. It would actually be easier to hack in the main tabulating computers before the actual election because you can place "kernels" in place and never have to mess with it again, and you would still get what looks like "actual" results. The Warren County Courthouse holds what? The optical scan equipment that can be hacked into and votes can be messed with from as low as the local level and as far as the state and national level. By doing it this way you would actually have control before and after the election and you run a smaller chance in getting caught because your using to different modes at two different times.
To get this done all you would need is 2 or 3 people in Ohio and Florida to get this done. Not an army of computer hackers. Does anyone else besides me notice that there were means, opprotunity, and motive here? This even explains the exit polls......

Thank you,
Stacy Lowman

I came up with this a while back. You notice I can place times and places? Sorry, nothing like Madsen's.



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