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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:03 PM
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County Prosecutor David Yost DELEWARE, OHIO wants to stop recount!
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 01:19 PM by pbartch
This was sent out in the DEM-OR-Multnomah@yahoogroups.com Digest #840. (I'm not the original poster.) It's AWFUL that this guy who's ONLY a "County Prosecutor" is seeking to STOP THE RECOUNT IN OHIO. Here's the info below. GO to Senator Kerry's website URL & you can address your concerns to him. His Phone number and FAX number is below too.

SEND THIS NOTE TO ALL YOUR DEM FRIENDS AND POST ON ALL MESSAGE BOARD. GET THE WORD OUT.
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Please contact Kerry about Delaware, Ohio case


Delaware County Common Pleas Judge W. Duncan Whitney granted a temporary restraining order until December 1st to block the Dave Cobb, etc. recount request. The elections board wants to block a recount both before and after certification. The judge will decide the permanent order later.

County Prosecutor David Yost said, "To ask taxpayers to fund someone's political hobbyhorse when there's no possible chance of a different outcome seems to be an utter waste. There's better uses for that money in Delaware County and, I suspect, in other places around the state."

Yost didn't know how much the cost of a recount would be in the county, but said it would be "substantial."

Delaware is apparently the first Ohio county to seek a court order blocking a recount, but others are thinking about it according to the Ohio Board of Elections.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287758/posts

This is the second case in which the Green Party/Libertarian Party presidential candidates have not been able to get anything done to move along the recount. This decision is contrary to Ohio law--the judge has no jurisdiction by law to prejudge whether the Green Party or Libertarian could win. That is not authorized in Ohio Rev. Code Sec. 3515.02 under which the action is brought, and a dangerous concept to put in the hands of a judge.

Especially because of these problems, I think Sen. John Kerry should be participating in the recount and legal actions to move it along now. Therefore, I have written to him about this and asked him to come on board NOW.

If anyone else feels this way, please send an e-mail to Sen. John Kerry at http://kerry.senate.gov/bandwidth/contact/email.html or phone him at (202) 224-2742 or fax him at (202) 224-8525.

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noclonyofthechimp Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:27 PM
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1. Kick...I emailed Kerry
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:29 PM
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2. I went to college in Delaware, Ohio. Not surprised.
Was a very conservative town, and I'm sure most of the county was the same way.

:(
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jhgatiss Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:39 PM
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14. When?
Do I know you?
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:48 PM
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18. Started fall 1993, graduated 1996.
Do I know you?
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jhgatiss Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:26 PM
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26. Not at all.
You're just a bit before my time ;) Started 1997, graduated 2001. The good news is that since we're five years apart our reunions will always be on the same years! :)
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:45 PM
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30. Well, I'll see ya in 2006!
You didn't happen to live at Peace & Justice House, did you?
(I was the moderator my senior year :P )
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jhgatiss Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:01 PM
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31. Nope, never lived there.
I do remember a few of the people that lived there though.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:52 PM
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34. Me too!
Graduated in '75.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:31 PM
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3. No...
All that Judge Whitney has done is denied the request to hold the recount before certification. He has not blocked a recount completely. This news broke last week, and it has been stated several times since that it is a TRO -- Temporary Restraining Order.
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:31 PM
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4. The 'Thugs will use this same excuse everywhere -
even though it completely ignores and obscures the real issue with the 2004 Presidential Election - that it was RIGGED.

As long as it does not affect enough votes to overturn the decision, it will continue to be ignored, regardless of mounting evidence of systematic voter fraud and suppression.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:36 PM
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5. Need a good lawyer on our side. A "Top Gun" who knows Ohio state law
up and down and is widely respected. Anyone know someone?
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:41 PM
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6. I wrote Delaware BOE/ commissioner yesterday: letter here
Marsha Hammond, PhD: Licensed Psychologist
e mail: hammondmv@netzero.com
your web site: http://www.co.delaware.oh.us/boe/index.htm


November 28, 2004



Dear Delaware county BOE: (Mr, Meyers, Staley, Burkham and Ms. Morgan)

I admire your logo attributed to Lincoln: "Ballots are the rightful and peaceful successors to the bullet"

Your county is receiving national news coverage.

It appears that you are simply going to refuse to attend to fully and correctly counting the 2004 General Election vote. Regardless of who we voted for, we deserve to know the full and correct vote.

Unfortunately, the rest of the States are tethered to OH.

Please encourage the 'powers that be' to obtain the full, correct vote. That includes, most pointedly, you: the Board of elections officials.


Sincerely,

Marsha Hammond, PhD:
an interested citizen who is necessarily tied to what is happening in OH.

cc: Mr. Jordan, county commissioner (I wrote him at his e mail address; it would be useful to have yours also).
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:48 PM
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7. isn't blackwell on the electins board?
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dewaldd Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:05 PM
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8. kick
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joevoter Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:00 PM
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9.  called JK and have used the Kerry problem report form to post it
I am not the best writer so please make suggestions on how this could be better... I am using the Kerry "election problem report form" to send my messages to him. Is this a good idea?

form: <http://www.johnkerry.com/forms/electiondayreport.php>

I am experiencing an election problem with John Kerry not standing up for voter rights. The election is not yet over and the Ohio elections board is attempting to prevent a timely recount. In Delaware County Judge W. Duncan Whitney will rule on this very soon. This decision is contrary to Ohio law and is not authorized in Ohio Rev. Code Sec. 3515.02 under which the action is brought. I encourage Sen. John Kerry to directly participate in legal actions that will secure the opportunity for a meaningful recount. The Ohio recount is a needed step in efforts to expose potential voter disenfranchisement and suspected election fraud - voter
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:09 PM
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10. I "used" your letter and added to it. It's a great letter............
I wish 25,000 people would use the URL you posted and send a comment today. 25,000 every day = A HUGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:12 PM
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11. Check the facts. He hasn't blocked the recount completely.
He only got a TRO to stop the recount prior to certification. Ya'll get with the program.
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joevoter Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:28 PM
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12. How should I reword it?
sorry for the lack of clearity...

I am unclear as to Kerry's direct legal involvement in making sure the recount happens. Is not the board of elections trying to stop it all together?

This bozos statement made the hair stand up on my back.

"Ohio Republican Party Chairman Robert T. Bennett issued a statement questioning the vote challenges: "These groups have already acknowledged the outcome of the election will not change, and their actions represent a foolish attempt to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the Bush presidency," he said. "I call on the leadership of the Ohio Democratic Party to immediately concede that this worthless recount request is an insult to the integrity of Ohio 's election system."
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:42 PM
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15. What I can speak to
I do not know what Kerry's direct legal involvement is in the recount. I can't say what the board of elections want to do. I can say that Kerry has said that every vote will be counted. I have read that Kerry has the 17,000 lawyers working on the election issues. Perhaps you could direct that question to the Kerry people. About the BOE the only thing that has happened so far is that they got a TRO (Temp. Restraining Order) to stop the recount from happening BEFORE the certification of the vote. It is my understanding that recounts do not usually happen until the vote is certified.
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joevoter Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:51 PM
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20. Thanks... I am learning as I go
Kerry has said that he supports the recount so I will assume that he is working on this in the best way possible. I will go back to posting my original letter requesting him to step forward and inspire his base to rise up. I am trying to motivate depressed Democrats every day to get involved. Handing out fliers, talking to people, and asking people to do the same but I would be much more effective and credible in their eyes if it were strongly sanctioned by JK. I, like so many others here feel abandoned by Kerry in this effort.
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joevoter Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:12 PM
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22. OK... I re-wrote the letter to say this
I am experiencing an election problem with John Kerry not standing up for voter rights. The election is not yet over and I request that he inspire his base to rise up. We Democrats are trying to motivate other depressed Democrats every day to get involved in exposing potential voter disenfranchisement and suspected election fraud . Handing out fliers, talking to people, and asking people to do the same will be much more effective with a strong endorsement from John Kerry. We need to be strong and credible in their eyes. I, like so many others feel abandoned in this effort. - voter
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Im with Rosey Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:18 PM
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33. I just used the form you referenced
I hope it will do some good. I agree that if everyone floods every outlet there is, we won't be able to be ignored!
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:30 PM
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13. sent email to Kerry asking for his help n/t
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:44 PM
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16. I called Kerry's Office n/t
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:48 PM
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17. A very strong legal reason for Kerry/Edwards to come forward
The reason that a recount would make no difference (for Cobb/Badnarak) evaporates if Kerry steps forward, as would the judge's decision not to allow an early recount, also based on the fact that any recount at any time would make no difference (again, for Cobb/Badnarak).

It is unconscionable for them NOT to step forward with all this going on in my opinion.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:51 PM
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19. I agree.
But I'm not holding my breath.
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:54 PM
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21. This County Prosecuter Should be Disbarred
The state Bar Association should look for his lisence.

He is trying to deny the Greens and US equal protection and equal application under the law.

Ohio law does not stipulate that the party asking for a recount has to have a probably chance of winning.
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:17 PM
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23. I don't get it..


What's up with this guy being so concerned about taxpayers' money? Didn't the glibs have to raise the money for the recount? And doesn't all of that money go to Ohio?

Does the state pick the tab if it goes beyond the $113k, or does this guy just have something to hide like the rest of the theives?
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:29 PM
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27. Exactly...
What are we raising money for, if we are alreay picking up the tab?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:20 PM
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24. Oh, come ON
Quit hiding behind the money.

If a Republican were demanding this you'd waste MILLIONS in a heartbeat!

HYPOCRITES!
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:25 PM
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25. He should worry MORE about how B*sh is spending OUR tax money and...
GET OUT OF OUR WAY! THIS CAUSE IS MUCH WORTHY THAN GOING TO MARS OR WHATEVER STUPID REASON BUSH IS USING OUR TAX MONEY FOR... :grr:

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tinfoil_beret Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:31 PM
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28. They should have counted them properly the first time. emo
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:37 PM
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29. Sound like one of them there activist judges
Oh, wait that what the 'right' is supposed to say
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:58 PM
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32. kick nt
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