Blackwell & his BOE buddies ought not mention cost of recounts

[texpatriot2004]

What keeps going through my mind is all the money that Ken Starr spent to find out where the presidential privates had been. Then, after that thought, is the cost of Iraq. Then after that is the new-old yacht for the chimp. Then I think of all the money that they waste on misc. things. Then I think of the money that they don't prioritize and spend, like, ah, for National Security, let's say. You know, securing our borders, inspecting ports, and planes. These people act like a bunch of addicts where the priority is always whatever they say it is. Get real. Does anyone else feel the same way? It makes me furious to hear them talk about the costs of a recount, or of recounts. I DON'T CARE WHAT THE COST IS! SPEND IT. TAKE THE MONEY FROM YOUR PARTY BUDGET IF YOU HAVE TO...RECOUNT THE #*%^ VOTES! :grr:

[Carolab]

1. AMEN

if the tables were turned, they'd spend the farm.

More of that good old Republican "value" system.

[texpatriot2004]

3. Exactly! So much for the Golden Rule and values and morals

If it were them they would definitely spend the farm, and every other cotton-pickin' thing. They would also be screaming foul play and probably in the streets by now. Put the shoe on the other foot though and...AAGH!

[Shalom]

2. Independent Texan Agrees with TexasPatriot 2004 !!!!

Can't You Two MEN Kick the Imposter Pussy Connecticut Frat-Boy Out of the Lone Star State ?

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From what many have posted about Blackwell being on MSN NBC the tactic will be to PISS off taxpayers. They are about to spread miss information on the cost of recounts and how recount is costing more then it is worth.

I already have thought up of a counter for this and I'm sure we have a lot that we can use. If they attack recount we attack Iraq war plain and simple.

This is the DU member formerly known as AIndependentTexan.

[texpatriot2004]

7. I wish we could get rid of the impostor frat-boy!

So, they plan to piss off the taxpayers huh? Wasting money on the recounts. I wonder if this will be a hard sell since 49% of us or 56+ million of us would likely disagree with their priorities. It's not my problem that the law hasn't been changed since 1950 whatever. It's not my problem that our government isn't prepared to deal with election fraud. They better find a solution. I also don't see how they can backslide on the estimated costs they gave or change the figure to adjust for 2004 costs. Too Bad, take it out of the yacht budget Bozo. Glad you are on top of things with a counter plan. Iraq, now there is a huge financial beast of burden. Let's talk about it. I'm game.

[LiberalAndProud]

16. Iraq-federal spending. Recount=state spending.

The figure of 18 cents per registered voter in Ohio is running around the board somewhere. Use that (and maybe send Blackwell 18 cents).

[texpatriot2004]

27. Okay, I'll send him 2 dimes and my 2 cents worth that he can

keep for free. I was unaware of this figure. I it intriguing to see the cost per voter.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

4. What a pathetic piece o crap to bring up the cost of the recount... it's

partisan A-Holes such as this that give democracy a real bad name.

[pacalo]

5. It rubbed me the wrong way, too, tex.

After all the free spending going on with Congress in the past 4 years, it was galling to hear someone complain about money spent to save our voting rights. Since the cost of recounts was established in the '50's, Blackwell seemed to be hinting that the cost of the 2004 recount could go up dramatically. No matter what the cost, the recount should have high priority.

[texpatriot2004]

6. Right! I'd say that they were penny wise and pound foolish but

they aren't even penny wise. Recently, I was thinking, you know, I have had to tighten my belt under the B*sh regime, our government should have to do the same. In fact, when was the last time they did so? I Can't remember when, can you? Long as I have known, they seem to spend pretty friggin' lavishly. I am so sick of it. Do we need to go show them how to prioritize the money? I think we might.

[LiberalAndProud]

17. I have heard that * never saw a spending bill he didn't like.

He has failed to put the brakes on spending in any sector. Now the Omnibus spending bill cut EVERYTHING except the war on Iraq. Homeland Security my aching back! We have exported our own brand of terrorism and we will reep the whirlwind for it.

[texpatriot2004]

28. About the war spending, our brand of terrorism, and the whirlwind

you are so right. I don't think they are really spending much on homeland security - just a bunch of talk. Since they won't spend to secure the borders, or ports, or planes...they really haven't funded Homeland Security, best I can tell.

It's weird because B* has increased the government size - it's bigger than it's been in my lifetime - and there is nothing conservative about him. Particularly in the fiscal arena. I know true conservatives who would not vote for him. They say he's NOT a Republican president. I agree. I am sure you do to.

He's worse than any "tax and spend liberal" (what is that anyway, but an outdated dinosaur of a political label).

[texpatriot2004]

8. kick

:kick: :kick:

[texpatriot2004]

9. You know, it's kind of like National Security...you don't scrimp

there. You don't cut corners on counting votes. Geez, these damn repugs burn me up with their b*lls*it. This is America. We can afford to count the votes, all the votes. ELECTION FRAUD IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE!

[texpatriot2004]

10. kick

[Stand and Fight]

11. Imagine

Imagine the temerity it takes to actually grip and moan about the costs of an election even though hundreds of your state's residents feel they were disenfranchised. What in God's name is wrong with these Republican morons? Do they not see how dumb they look considering the simple fact that people have to PAY for a recount? Even that is dumb when you consider the fact that no one has to pay to vote! My Lord, if they had done it the right and proper way the first time they'd not find themselves in such a bind. Damn them to hell for being lying stinking cheats in the first place!

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[texpatriot2004]

13. There IS that! IF they got it right to begin with. Or if they

would have stopped fighting the remedy prior to this election. You know, the verified voting movement. Why is it that they don't want paper trails...other than the fact that elections are much easier to steal? Even the vendors would make more money selling machines with paper trails. Not that I think we need to continue doing business with these same vendors. But seriously, you're right, if they did it right the first time we wouldn't need a recount. You know, they act like the 2000 fiasco never happened. How pathetic is it that America can't hold a fair election? Stand and Fight that's a great point the audacity it takes to claim money as a problem when hundreds of folks have testified to being disenfranchised.

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[Lauri]

18. And just how much

will they spend on the Inaugural parties in January?

[texpatriot2004]

29. So far they have earmarked $40million...n/t

[texpatriot2004]

32. Oh wait, you said inaugural PARTIES. That will be more.

The $40 million figure is for the actual inauguration (IF it comes to that). The parties will be extra. What was that party they had, hmm, for Homeland Security? Hundreds of thousands of $ Wasn't the caterer like 80K or something? Anyone remember.

[newyawker99]

33. Hi Lauri!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

12. There ya go!!

Ditto &!@!@#$^%$#*&(^&+

[pointsoflight]

14. AND the repugs just approved $2 million for the presidential yacht.

That's more than even Blackwell says it'll cost for a recount.

[texpatriot2004]

21. Yes. Maybe we need to scrap the yacht and pay for the recount

Oh wait, they don't pay for the recount, someone else does. Figures.

[jhgatiss]

15. I hope you are ALL coming to Ohio on Saturday!

I think it will be hard to spin this as a waste of tax dollars if there are so many people at the rally that it shuts down the capitol square area here in Columbus. Come one! Come all! Bring your friends! Let's show the Republicans what a real rally about voting irregularities looks like rather than their faux "recount riot" in 2000!

[LiberalAndProud]

19. Can you kick the thread(s) about the rally? I haven't seen them tonight.

[jhgatiss]

23. Like I could find them if I tried! LOL

I'm sure they will resurface!

Check out http://www.caseohio.org or http://www.uacitizensforchange.com/rally for information!

[pgh_dem]

30. Columbus Rally link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x86499

==
I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK Jr

[EC]

20. Well, too bad

If he hadn't screwed with the election, there wouldn't have to be any recounts.

How appropriate:

Find the cost of Freedom

Daylight again, following me to bed
I think about a hundred years ago, how my fathers bled
I think I see a valley, covered with bones in blue
All the brave soldiers that cannot get older been askin' after
you
Hear the past a callin', from Ar- -megeddon's side
When everyone's talkin' and noone is listenin', how can we
decide?

(Do we) find the cost of freedom, buried in the ground

Mother earth will swallow you, lay your body down
Find the cost of freedom, buried in the ground
Mother earth will swallow you, lay your body down
(Find the cost of freedom buried in the ground)
:nuke:

And on to:


Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.
:nuke:

[texpatriot2004]

22. Too bad is right. If they wouldn't cheat we wouldn't recount

Where is the poem from?

[EC]

26. crosby, stills, nash and young

It's a song...:hippie:

[Shalom]

31. Democracy Died In Ohio (apologies to Crosby-Stills-Nash-Young)

Tin soldiers and Bush is coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Democracy died in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it
(Soldiers are shooting Freedom down)
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Gotta get down to it
(Soldiers are shooting Freedom down)
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Tin soldiers and Bush is coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Democracy died in Ohio.

[consciousobjector]

24. the 2004 campaign brought a lot of reveue into Ohio

This is an excerpt from a letter I sent to Blackwell's office yesterday:

I also question the resistance to a recount being mounted by the Secretary of State's office. Before the election there were a lot of accusations of attempted voter fraud being voiced by party leaders from both sides. I realize that the cost of a recount is not likely to be covered by the fees required by law. However as one of the major "battleground states" this year, Ohio saw a huge influx of money from the campaign. Surely the state will realize a fair amount of additional tax revenue as a result.

Indeed I remember a number of businesses were disappointed that an election dispute did not immediately follow the election, as many businesses were expecting the campaign money to continue to flow. Perhaps the state could look on this recount as an opportunity to bring more business into Ohio. The state has been known to give tax breaks and other incentives to bring business to Ohio. The added cost to the state of a recount is really not that different when you think about it. And there would be the added advantage of helping the nation to examine the voting process and help to find solutions for problems that were widespread across the country.

[texpatriot2004]

25. Good job with the letter. Positive points. Business Benefits.

Well said. I think you made a good point that it could be a good thing for Ohio and a good thing for the nation.

[jhgatiss]

34. I was thinking very much the same thing.

If this becomes a big story and the news media swarm Ohio again, the increased revenues from hotels, restaurants, and so forth will more than outweigh the costs. I really don't buy this whole, "Waaaah! It costs money!" line.

[texpatriot2004]

35. I wonder who, if anyone, will buy it? It really sends the wrong

message. We can't afford to recount or it is too expensive to recount...and it's not worth the expense. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and I would guess it does the same thing for many Americans. What do you think?

[pointsoflight]

36. $2 million for the presidential yacht. 'Nuf said.

[texpatriot2004]

37. He and his cronies are insane.

Brand Democrat has an excellent ad about priorities
it reads, "National Security First, Presidential Yachts Later. Much Later." Have you seen it? Check it out.

http://www.oliverwillis.com/node/view/1318