David Corn in The Nation wrote a good piece, although . . .

[whistle]

. . . I'd like to get his take on the situation now that more facts are coming out:

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editorial | Posted November 9, 2004

A Stolen Election?
by David Corn


Before the vote-counting was done, the e-mails started arriving. The election's been stolen! Fraud! John Kerry won! In the following days, these charges flew over the Internet. The basic claim was that the early exit polls--which showed Kerry ahead of George W. Bush--were right; the vote tallies were rigged. Could this be? Or have ballot booths with electronic voting machines become the new Grassy Knoll for conspiracy theorists?

Anyone who questioned the integrity of the nation's voting system--before the election or after--has had good reason to do so. Electronic voting that does not produce an auditable paper trail is worrisome--as is the possibility that the machines can be hacked. The proponents of these systems claim there are sufficient safeguards. But in this election there were numerous reports of e-voting gone bad. Votes cast for one candidate were registered for another. In Broward County, Florida, software subtracted votes rather than added them. In Franklin County, Ohio, an older electronic machine reported an extra 3,893 votes for Bush. Local election officials caught that error. But when I asked Peggy Howell, one of those officials, why the mistake occurred, she replied, "We really don't know." Were these errors statistically insignificant glitches that inevitably happen in any large system? "It gives us the uneasy feeling that we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg," Cindy Cohn of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which is part of the Election Protection Coalition, told Reuters. "What has most concerned scientists are problems that are not observable," David Jefferson, a computer scientist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, explained to the Associated Press. "The fact that we had a relatively smooth election...does not change at all the vulnerability these systems have to fraud or bugs." And the 2000 fiasco in Florida demonstrated that non-electronic voting can also have serious problems, which often disproportionately affect low-income counties.


Then there's the issue of who is running the show. Only a few companies manufacture electronic voting machines. They are not transparent. They do not use open-source code. Last year, Walden O'Dell, the head of Diebold, a leading manufacturer of touch-screen machines, declared in a fundraising letter for the Ohio Republican Party that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." That hardly inspired confidence. And across the country, oversight of voting is conducted by partisan officials. In Ohio, Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican and conservative activist, oversaw the voting. On his watch, the polling place for Kenyon College was equipped with only two voting machines. Yet about 1,100 people--mostly students--wanted to vote there. These voters (and you can guess whom they preferred) had to wait up to nine hours. It doesn't require much cynicism to suspect that this was no accident.

<more clear writing on the issue>

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041129&s=corn

[gumby]

1. For some reason,

I've never trusted Corn or "The Nation." Maybe I'm psychic or maybe it's just a personality conflict.

edit: I used to subsribe to "The Nation."

[whistle]

2. You gotta go with your feelings, I'm just trying to add to my. . .

. . .base of articles and discissions about this issue and to get the latest insights wherever they may come from

[LiberalAndProud]

3. "We really don't know."

The count was bad.
We caught the bad count.
We don't know how it happened.

Every single article about e-tabulation anomolies: We really don't know.

Guess what? I really don't know if the count is correct! Folks who are counting the votes intend to be honest (mostly, except Blackwell and such bushwhackers). They caught the glaring errors.

How many less glaring errors just slid by?

How will anyone know ever?

[Helga Scow Stern]

4. I am bored with their denial...

or whatever it is. They used to be my favorite magazine until the election. Now they seem irrelevant somehow.

[ailsagirl]

5. Some Liberals won't even mention it

Such as Al Franken-- I was very surprised when he had Mark Crispin Miller (Professor Media Studies at NYU and who has written two books about Dub) on his Air America show post-election, and Crispin said he thought it was stolen, and Franken just wouldn't hear of it-- literally! He kept interrupting Miller and simply would not let Miller get an entire sentence out. I was furious!! I wanted to hear what the man had to say. I even wrote Franken and voiced my frustration. It's not up to him to censor his guests. Miller is not some nut. And I haven't listened to Franken's show since.

[Minstrel Boy]

6. David Corn has enormous blind spots.

Most of the time I give him the benefit of the doubt, and assume that he just doesn't know better. Hey, it's not his fault if he can't think outside his paradigm, right?

Then some of the time I think worse of him.

The Nation has largely become an irrelevent artifact thanks to him.