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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:25 PM
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Strong indications of major electronic glitches or fraud in Ohio
Strong indications of major electronic glitches or fraud in Ohio in several counties

In analyzing the still-unofficial results, the totals reveal that C. Ellen Connally, an African-American Democratic candidate from Cleveland running for Ohio Chief Justice, received more than votes than Kerry in many counties. For example in Butler County, Connally received 5347 more votes than Kerry. The list of the counties where Connally actually outpolled Kerry include Auglaize, Brown, Butler, Clermont, Darke, Highland, Mercer, Miami, Putnam, Shelby, Van Wert, and Warren.

The reason the Kerry vote counts are suspect is because Connelly, a retired African-American judge, was vastly outspent in her race, and did not have the visibility of the presidential race. Thus for a more obscure Democratic candidate, farther down on the ticket, to get many more votes statewide than Kerry, suggests something happened to suggest there may have been a transfer of Kerry votes to Bush. ""Statistically, Kerry, as the Democratic presidential candidate, should have more votes than Connally. In a presidential election, most voters have the priority of casting a vote for president and the votes for president are almost always much higher than those of candidates farther down the ticket. As of election night, 5,481,804 votes were counted for Bush and Kerry. 4,327,270 votes were counted for Moyer and Connally.

""This looks like a computer glitch or a computer fix,"" said Bob Fitrakis, a lawyer, political scientist and Editor of the Columbus Free Press (http://freepres.org) who has written about election irregularities since Bush was declared the winner. Fitrakis is among the team of lawyers who announced they would soon file an election challenge in the state’s Supreme Court.
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IAMREALITY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:27 PM
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1. OMG BREAKING NE....Oh Wait, No It's Not
Missed the Boat By A fewwwwww days I think hehe

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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:33 PM
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2. GAO investigating widespread malfeasance by Ohio Election Officials
http://www.dispatch.com/election.php?story=dispatch/2004/11/25/20041125-D1-03.html
ELECTION DAY AFTERMATH More voting questions raised
Thursday, November 25, 2004 Jon Craig THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH


Several new voting concerns surfaced yesterday as lawyers combed totals from the Nov. 2 presidential election.
An Akron man filed a complaint with the Summit County Board of Elections saying he "witnessed election judges telling potential voters that they could cast a provisional ballot at any table or precinct and if they did so, it would be counted."
Neil F. Schoenwetter Jr. was a volunteer election challenger for the Democratic Party on Nov. 2 at Copley High School, where six precincts voted.
Congress’ investigative agency, responding to complaints from Ohio and elsewhere, has begun to look into the vote count, including the handling of provisional ballots and malfunctions of voting machines.
The Government Accountability Office usually begins investigations at the request of Congress, but the agency’s head, Comptroller General David Walker, said the GAO acted on its own because of ballot-counting complaints.
The investigation was not triggered by several House Democrats who had written the agency this month, seeking an investigation. That effort was led by senior Judiciary Committee member John Conyers, of Michigan.
Conyers yesterday said he would like the investigation to include allegations that not enough voting machines were available in some Democratic areas, such as Franklin County.
Meanwhile, attorneys for various citizen action groups that plan to contest the results said they are puzzled that vote totals in the presidential race in Warren County far exceed totals in most other statewide and countywide races.
For example, the total of 94,415 votes cast there for President Bush or Sen. John Kerry is 3,000 more than all those cast in the U.S. Senate race and a constitutional amendment about same-sex marriage.
Further, 20,000 to 24,000 fewer votes were cast in three Ohio Supreme Court races and 13,000 to 24,000 fewer were cast in various countywide races.
In Warren County, which reported a 33 percent increase in voter turnout from the 2000 elections, election officials had banned observers at the polls for "homeland security" concerns.
Clifford O. Arnebeck, a Columbus attorney representing the Alliance for Democracy, said he has testimony from poll worker Liz Kent, of Warren County, asserting, "There was no way the actual vote could have been as reported."
Arnebeck’s group plans to join several others in contesting the results in the Ohio Supreme Court. Two third-party presidential candidates plan to formally request a recount.
President Bush’s uncertified margin of victory over Kerry totals more than 137,000 votes in Ohio. There were 155,337 provisional and more than 5,000 overseas ballots.
In Summit County, Schoenwetter said he witnessed election judges giving incorrect instructions to voters in four precincts.
"I tried, unsuccessfully, to point out the judges’ errors to the judges," he said in his affidavit. "I also observed that poll workers were not helpful to — in fact, some were overtly hostile to the idea of helping — voters whose names were not on the rolls in finding their correct polling place.
"Some lines were over an hour or two long. At other precincts, there was no line. I believe that there were potential voters who requested provisional ballots at the incorrect precinct because it was more convenient and because they were told that casting a provisional ballot at any precinct was acceptable," he said.
Bryan C. Williams, director of the Summit County elections board, said he was unaware of Schoenwetter’s affidavit, saying, "We have a stack of complaints we received."
Williams said it would be incorrect to advise people that their provisional ballot would be counted if they were in the wrong precinct. Of 5,400 provisional ballots, about 25 percent won’t be counted, he said, including people not registered or at the wrong address.
Separately, Williams said he plans to refer to the county sheriff, for possible prosecution, the names of 20 people confirmed to have voted twice.
The Cuyahoga County elections board voted Monday to reject one out of three of the 24,472 provisional ballots cast in the Nov. 2 election. The bulk of the 8,099 invalidated ballots were determined to be cast by nonregistered voters or registered voters who cast ballots in the wrong precincts.
In Sandusky County, double counting of 2,600 ballots from nine precincts resulted from duplicate storage in a computer disk, the elections board said. No outcomes were affected by the error, the elections board in northwestern Ohio said.
Barb Tuckerman, board of elections director in Sandusky County, said the error, initially blamed on ballots being run through a scanner twice, was traced to workers duplicating backups of vote totals for the nine precincts on a computerstorage disk.
"We checked everything as it came out of the machines. We got the right answer," Tuckerman said.
In Gahanna, 3,893 extra votes were recorded for Bush because of an unexplained touch-screen machine malfunction. And in Youngstown, some voters who tried to cast ballots for Kerry on electronic machines saw their votes recorded for Bush instead.
Ohio Republican Party Chairman Robert T. Bennett issued a statement questioning the vote challenges:
"These groups have already acknowledged the outcome of the election will not change, and their actions represent a foolish attempt to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the Bush presidency," he said. "I call on the leadership of the Ohio Democratic Party to immediately concede that this worthless recount request is an insult to the integrity of Ohio’s election system."
Information from the Associated Press was included in this story.
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:00 PM
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3. widespread voter suppression, irregularities, indications of fraud in Fla.
Indications of irrgularities or fraud in big touchscreen counties

www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00072.htm
www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/policy/story/0,10801,97614,00.html
www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp?sort=date&selectstate=FL&selectproblemtype=ALL
www.flcv.com/fla04EAS.html www.flcv.com/fla04EA.html

Major Voter Suppression in big S. Florida counties
www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/local/10032557.htm
www.newtimesbpb.com/issues/2004-11-04/news/norman.html
www.legitgov.org/essay_front_lines_in_florida_110704.html
http://simplyappalling.blogspot.com/2004/10/broward-co-florida-once-again-descends.html
www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/10099198.htm?1c
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.election26nov26,1,4103824.story?coll=
bal-oped-h
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:15 PM
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4. Documentation: widespread voter suppression, malfeasance, irregularities
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 09:17 PM by berniew1
Summary of widespread voter suppression, malfeasance, equipment problems, software glitches, irregularities, and indications of fraud
in Ohio
www.flcv.com/ohiov04.html

Ohio Fraud and Whitewash www.spectrumz.com/z/fair_use/2004/11_04.html
www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp?sort=date&selectstate=OH&selectproblemtype=ALL
www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/985

New Ohio voter transcripts feed floodtide of doubt about Republican election manipulation
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/930
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:17 PM
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5. Thanks, but this info is already known...
Welcome to DU!
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:29 PM
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6. Warren C.,Ohio: most sucessful voter drive ever, or stuffing ballot box
Warren County, a traditional Republican stronghold northeast of Cincinnati, came to national attention on election night. While the nation awaited returns from Ohio, the state that would decide the election, county officials locked down the administrative building and prohibited all independent observers from watching the vote count.

An analyst who has all the vote data for 2000 and 2004 by precinct in several Ohio counties did a detailed analysis by precinct of the huge increase in Bush votes and margin in Warren county. This county first did a lockdown to count the votes, then apparently did another lockdown to recount the votes later- resulting in an even bigger Bush margin and very unusual new patterns.

Several very unusual patterns were evident in the history and the vote totals by precinct. The analyst concludes:

"George W. Bush’’s big win in Warren County was due to one of two things –– one of the most successful voter registration drives in American political history, or stuffing the ballot box. If the vote was legitimate, the records will show it. There will be a signature in a different handwriting for every one of the 16,803 newly registered voters, and for every one of the 95,512 ballots cast. If the vote was not legitimate, there will be a shortage of punch cards in the ballot box, or duplicate handwriting on the voter rolls, or fewer registered voters than reported."

Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D. 4 Fisher Street Canton, NY 13617 (315) 379-0820

Other counties and likely Kerry win in recount with fair rules: http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/alpage.htm


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