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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 06:05 PM
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This is who we are up against.
It seems that, almost without exception, the voting machine business is operated by companies with strong ties to the republican party, military contractors, hard right wingers, and fundamentalists.

Lynn Landes' web site has an excellent overview of voting machine companies, and I'll add a few bits of information to hers.
http://www.ecotalk.org/VotingMachineCompanies.htm#Other

The largest company, ES&S, was known as American Information Systems (AIS) before 1999. It was founded in 1980 by two brothers, Bob and Todd Urosevich. AIS was largely funded with money from the very wealthy Ahmanson family of California, who also have helped finance The Chalcedon Institute, a dominionist organization that wants to see a return to Biblical Law. Todd Urosevich is still with ES&S, while Bob is currently the President of Diebold. Here's a previous post I made about ES&S with some further info:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x38210

Many people know about Diebold and ES&S, yet even less prominent companies have these same kinds of connections to the right wing. For instance, Danaher Guardian is run by Steven and Mitchell Rales, who each are worth more than a billion dollars. It was a Danaher Guardian machine that "mistakenly" gave george bush a few thousand extra votes in Franklin County, Ohio (why do these computer glitches always bear right?).

A newsmeat.com search of campaign contributions finds that the Rales have given generously to republican politicians.
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=DC&last=Rales

They also have given very generously to an organization called Ameripac. When we visit Ameripac's web site, we are greeted with the smiling faces of tom delay, george w. bush, and bill frist. Also on the front page is a bizarre (and obviously old) headline: "Kerry, The Communist Party's choice, must repudiate endorsement, says AMERIPAC." The press release concludes, “We call on John Kerry to repudiate the Communist Party USA, and walk away from its endorsement,” Gottlieb concluded. “Otherwise, Americans will know that John Kerry’s vision of America has a hammer and sickle waving somewhere over the landscape.”

Also on this sparse web site is a link to "Past Efforts." You would expect to find out about Ameripac's past support for republican politicians. But instead, we're greeted by three photos: Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, and Tom Daschle.

Well, what a fine organization the Rales brothers have helped fund--it's a rightwing smear machine! (Thankfully, the commie John Kerry was defeated--or at least that's what the voting machines told us.)

http://www.ameripac.org/

Another company, Triad GSI of Xenia, Ohio, run by the Rapp family, counts many of the votes in Ohio, including Warren County, which was mysteriously placed under lockdown while the vote counting was done. The father, Tod Rapp, originally wrote the program that counts the votes. He also was a financial supporter of the bush campaign.
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?city=Xenia&st=OH&last=rapp

There is certainly nothing wrong with donating to political campaigns, even those of republicans, but why do all vote-counting companies seem to be tied to the republican party? And as shown on Lynn Landes' site, many have strong ties to military contractors. Why are military contractors so interested in getting into the vote-counting business? Why not try some other line of business, like manufacturing espresso makers?

In 1988, Ronnie Dugger wrote a landmark article about electronic voting for The New Yorker.
http://www.govsux.com/annals_of_democracy.htm

In the article, he said this about fixing elections:

But who on Earth would do such a thing? In Chicago in 1982, 58 Democratic party bosses were convicted of fraud after they were caught stuffing not the ballot box, but the computer. They had punched out fraudulent cards for falsely registered and nonexistent voters, then run them through the card-reader.

There have been numerous other ambiguous cases. Many of them have involved Berkeley's Computer Election Service (CES)-which recently changed its name to Business Records Corporation Election Service. The company is the dominant force In the American election industry; an estimated 33 to 40 percent of all American votes are cast on and counted by CES systems. CES uses aversion of the punch-card voting system prevalent in California.

In 1985, the National Security Agency (NSA)-the government's most expansive and most secretive intelligence service-took an interest in CES. According to the New York Times, NSA was following a directive from then-President Reagan to improve the security of major non-military computer systems. 

Government officials were queasy at the prospect of a top-secret military spy agency-particularly NSA, whose domain is high-tech intelligence gathering-delving into the nation's electoral process. According to the Times, an official of the government's General Accounting Office told a Senate committee that NSA's involvement with CES "raises basic questions concerning the extent to which the defense establishment should be involved in policy formulation within the government's civilian agencies."


Geez, that's enough to make your hair stand on end!

BTW, the company mentioned in the Dugger article, CES, was founded in 1984 by Jack Gerbel. CES went on to have several run-ins with the law. Jack Gerbel is now president of Unilect Corporation, whose machines are used in Carteret County, North Carolina, where 4,500 votes were permanently lost.
http://www.jdnews.com/SiteProcessor.cfm?Template=/GlobalTemplates/Details.cfm&StoryID=27168&Section=News

Isn't it wonderful we live in a democracy?
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 06:13 PM
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1. man, this is great!
I started reading about all this stuff after the election and it's so blatant! imagine how up in arms the repugs would be if Bill Clinton owned a voting company.

voting company? isn't that an oxymoron?
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 06:17 PM
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2. I'm trying to stay hopeful,
but reading this makes me feel as though we have been taken over by evil and democracy is only an illusion.
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Shalom Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 06:21 PM
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3. Without a Single Investigative Reporter from an MSM...
chasing down these mother f.....ers.

Note that Keith Olbermann is not an investigative reporter:
where are the Woodwards and Bernsteins when we need them ?

THIS IS MUCH WORSE THAN WATERGATE !!!
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 09:27 PM
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7. You're right. All Olbermann does is pass along info--but at least it's
not just info coming from the government. Most everything that mainstream America considers "news" is simply government press releases.

If this were the 70's, bush would be wearing leg irons by now. Back when our newspapers and networks were staffed by real journalists, the NY Times, WaPost, Newsweek, Time, CBS, ABC, and NBC would be killing themselves trying to scoop the other guy. They weren't just the transmitters of information--they discovered it. Nowadays, that's non-existent. Real journalists today are found only on the Internet or other alternative media.

NBC wingnut Brian Williams was on The Daily Show last night. Surprisingly to me, he was very funny; but he also made a comment that said more than he probably meant to say. He mentioned how back in the 90's, while covering Clinton, he used to compete with Wolf Blitzer and Britt Hume for every little bit of information they could find (no matter how worthless or untruthful). What Williams didn't say--and didn't need to--was that the media doesn't do that when there is a bush in the White House.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 06:30 PM
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4. Superb reference list: have cross posted to dKos....
...and forwarded the link to Brad Friedman.

Peace.


"I Declare The 2004 Election Invalid: Someone I do not know was prevented from voting"
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Scrooge Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 06:35 PM
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5. michael moore
Please tell me Michael Moore is up on all this. He seems to be the only voice of reason these days.
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 06:59 PM
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6. And the Biblical Reconstructionists and KKK are on the march.
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 07:02 PM by Carl Brennan
and they believe the vote should only belong to Christians.



http://www.panix.com/~hncl/HectorsJournal/archives/000275.html

Many of you may already be familiar with what Christian Reconstructionism is about, but here's the short version: They believe the vote should only belong to Christians, and that the American government and laws should be explicitly governed by their fundamentalist interpretation of Scripture.
again, from "Onward Christian Soldiers."

......radical ideas must be gently and often indirectly infused into their target constituencies and society at large. The vague claim that God and Jesus want Christians to govern society is certainly more appealing than the bloodthirsty notion of justice as "vengeance" advocated by some of the Reconstructionists. The claim that they do not seek to impose a theocracy from the top down--waiting for a time when a majority will have converted and thus want to live under Biblical Law--is consistent with Reconstructionists' decentralist and anti-state populism, which they often pass off as a form of libertarianism. Even so, there is an inevitable point when the "majority" would impose its will. North bluntly says that one of his first actions would be to "remove legal access to the franchise and to civil offices from those who refuse to become communicant members of Trinitarian churches." Quick to condemn democracy as the idea that the law is whatever the majority says it is, North et al. would be quick to cynically utilize a similar "majority" for a permanent theocratic solution.

from "A Generation of Reconstructionists," <http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v08n1/chrisre2.html> Part 2 of Frederick Clarkson's "Christian Reconstructionism: Theocratic Dominionism Gains Influence" <http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v08n1/chrisrec.html>

To summarize: a principal owner of a major provider of election machines and software has ties to an organization that seeks to advance an ideology of disenfrancisement, tyranny, murder, and expansionism. His firm is providing many of the machines that are supposed to implement our representative democracy (such as it is.) Meanwhile, the ideology spreads in a disorganized, partial, but highly effective way.


Howard Ahmanson is a very rich underwriter of much of the effort to get control of the voting machines. Even the KKK is involved.

More on Ahmanson and voting machine co. ownership.

http://www.mousemusings.com/weblogs/2004/11/diebold-electronic-voting-and-vast.html
According to Group Watch, in the 1980s Howard F. Ahmanson, Jr. was a member of the highly secretive far-Right Council for National Policy <http://www.seekgod.ca/cnp.htm>, an organization that included Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, Major General John K. Singlaub and other Iran-Contra scandal notables, as well as former Klan members like Richard Shoff. Ahmanson, heir to a savings and loan fortune, is little reported on in the mainstream U.S. press. But, English papers like The Independent are a bit more forthcoming on Ahmanson’s politics.

“On the right, figures such as Richard Mellon Scaife and Howard Ahmanson have given hundreds of millions of dollars over several decades to political projects both high (setting up the Heritage Foundation think-tank, the driving engine of the Reagan presidency) and low (bankrolling investigations into President Clinton’s sexual indiscretions and the suicide of the White House insider Vincent Foster),” wrote The Independent last November.

The Sunday Mail described an individual as, “. . . a fundamentalist Christian more in the mould of U.S. multi-millionaire Howard Ahmanson, Jr., who uses his fortune to promote so-called traditional family values . . . by waving fortunes under their noses, Ahmanson has the ability to cajole candidates into backing his right-wing Christian agenda.

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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 10:28 PM
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8. There was one voting machine manufacturer that seemed to have
the right idea about how electronic voting should be conducted in a democracy. His name was Athan Gibbs. As explained in "The Tennessee Tribune":

Gibbs, 57 was an accountant, auditor and inventor who single-handedly changed the face of elections in America when he developed the first touch screen voting machines (DRE) equipped with a Voter Verifiable Paper Audit Trail (VVPAT).

He named his machine the TruVote Voter Validation and Verification System, certified it with the federal government and began marketing the machine in 2002.

During the unprecedented events surrounding the validity of the vote count in the 2000 presidential election, it became apparent to Gibbs that several inadequacies existed with the voting systems currently used in the United States.

His concerns about the problematic election and his selfdescribed “passion for democracy” led him to invent the TruVote System.

“The paper trail serves three purposes,” Gibbs once explained. “It provides a means to verify that the DRE voting machine is accurately recording each voter’s intent. It offers a means to manually recount votes in close elections. Lastly, it gives voters confidence that their votes are being recorded and reported as they intended. It eliminates blind faith voting.”




And the "Tennessean" tells us:

TruVote emerged from Gibbs' search for a solution to fix a problem after thousands of votes went uncounted in the 2000 presidential election.

The company has competitors such as Diebold Election Systems Inc. of McKinney, Texas; Hart InterCivic of Austin, Texas, and Sequoia Voting Systems of Oakland, Calif., and Election Systems & Software Inc. of Omaha, Neb.

http://www.tennessean.com/business/archives/04/03/48811616.shtml



But maybe not.

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Music City was stunned last weekend when it learned that Athan Lee Gibbs, Sr. founder of TruVote International was killed in a two-vehicle collision on 1-65 near Metro Center Drive Friday morning, March 12 at approximately 10:30 am.

Gibbs’ death comes at a critical moment for TruVote. The VVPAT has become a front-burner issue in the election business and in grassroots American political circles. Serious questions have been raised in scientific studies that have illuminated concerns about the security of touch screen voting systems.

http://www.thetennesseetribune.com/news/Article/Article.asp?NewsID=40618&sID=4



''Athan clearly was the champion of the business, spiritual leader of it,'' said David Hart, the chairman of Hart InterCivic, a TruVote competitor. ''Any business that loses its spiritual leader is going to have a significant adjustment.''

The 57-year-old Gibbs died as the company is on the verge of seeking certification for an improved second version of the TruVote system from the National Association of State Elections Directors.''

http://www.tennessean.com/business/archives/04/03/48811616.shtml




For those interested, here are some other posts I've made containing background info about voting machine companies:

Concerning ES&S in Indiana and Ohio:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x38210

Concerning Findlar & Diebold in Indiana:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x44109

Concerning Unilect and North Carolina:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=45594&mesg_id=45594
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:31 AM
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9. kick, and let me add an exceptional source of info on voting companies:
Chapter 8 of Bev's book, available for free as a downloadable pdf.
http://blackboxvoting.org/ After you read this, you might not be so quick to criticize Bev and the work she has done.

Sorry for forgetting to mention this originally. It's a treasure trove of info that adds to the overwhelming evidence that the voting machine industry is dominated by companies with strong connections to the hard right wing, military contractors, fundamentalists, Texas oil & energy interests, and Saudis.

Coincidentally, I remember having a discussion about george w bush a few months ago, saying that he represents a coalition of the fundamentalist right, military contractors, oil & energy interests, and the Saudis. Isn't it amazing how the same people that back george bush are the same people that have taken over counting votes? And since they have, george has gone 2 for 2 in winning elections! Simply amazing.
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stirringstill Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:09 PM
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10. They view us as nothing more than a herd of sheep
Lynn Landes site referenced above is one of the better sites on voting that I've come across. There has been much discussion about how voting technologies are owned by Republicans. What her site shows is that not only are these companies laregely in Republican hands but that they are also in the hands of military industrial complex. Her site doesn't prove that the US vote was rigged for Bush, but it does raise the suspicion that members of the intelligence/defense community think that ownership of these machines is in their geopolitical and financial interests. It sure the hell is cheaper and less messy to use voting machines to give the perception of legitamacy to goverments these groups support. Why else would we be voting on these machines?
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bmoney07 Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:21 PM
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11. more fraud = more questions
this is great

Kicking!

This whole system is F**ked up from A-Z like Nader said
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