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peanutbrittle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 11:56 AM
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Levels of consciousness and receptivity
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# 1. Intuition
# 2. Understanding
# 3. Courage
# 4. Knowledge
# 5. Council
# 6. Worship
# 7. Wisdom

The mind of man and its inner workings are fascinating. The evolution of man and mind from animal to human is an amazing thing when you consider the increased functionality of the mind over time.

The Bible says that opening the mind to the existence of a Creator increases the minds receptivity to these levels of consciousness through the workings of the Holy Spirit.

Non-believers would say that these levels of consciousness are simply a product of natural origins and learned experience within the evolution of man itself.

Both, I think understand much is through man's learned experiences.

I believe in the combination of both natural and the divine gift.

Is the increased receptivity real? Or is it simply a product of one's own inner workings of the mind. (please elaborate if you wish)

Believers can only know this through personal experience. (please elaborate if you wish)

Intuition seems to be the most interesting to me as it seems to imply something more than a learned experience.


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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 12:56 PM
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2. Increased recepitivity is real
anyone who has had a mystical experience will agree with that statement. It is as if a portal opens up, and you are tuned in to a whole other way of looking at things. This can happen by grace or by doing spiritual practices-I've had my share of both.

One reason atheists don't agree that these experiences are real is that their minds are in the rational thinking mode. In my lifetime, I've found that experiencing God takes getting out of that mode and into another--for any mystical experience I have had involved using my mind and perceptions in a new and different way. So no, I cannot "prove" any of my experiences, and no, they didn't happen under laboratory conditions. They just happened, and I have always been rather surprised when they did and the form that they have taken. I don't go into detail about my experiences, especially on this board, where certain individuals are so fundamental in their atheism that they cannot keep an open mind that such things are possible.

Personally, I believe that Consciousness is evolving and that we are on the threshhold of a new leap in consciousness. This is something I have been feeling for a long time, and something others in my circle have been experiencing as well-and this circle includes mystics of all religions and no religion.

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TRYPHO Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 02:04 PM
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4. Thats a shame...
You wrote:
I don't go into detail about my experiences, especially on this board, where certain individuals are so fundamental in their atheism that they cannot keep an open mind that such things are possible.
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I guess whatever it is the usual answers would come out:
The Scientist will think you have had an epileptic fit or a Temporary Ischaemic Attack!
The Atheist will say you made it up, brought it on by hysteria or are lying to get their money!
And the believer will pray for you and hope it will happen to them one day.
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Now, if you can handle the first two, the believers would LOVE to know at least something of your experience/s.

TRYPHO
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 02:35 PM
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5. Thank you for your wise words
And you are very true. If you wish details, you may pm me. But a brief overview:

1. Age 17, saw the makeup of the universe and communicated with universal consciousness-no, I wasn't on drugs.

2. Age 27, helped a loved one cross over-interesting in that the loved one didn't even realize they were dead.

3. Age 37-38, through a series of visions and dreams, was guided to my spiritual path (one I hadn't heard of before, finding out via a series of "coincidences") and to my soul mate.

4. Age 40, guided through Lakota ceremony to move-and again saw the makeup of the universe and universal consciousness.

5. Age 41, had a wreck and told as it was happening it was to clear karma and change my way of thinking

6. Mid 40s, witnessed the healing of an injured person during an inipi ceremony.

7. From then until present: Helped with the manifestation of two major building projects; helped clear a house of negative influences (yes, you could see them); helped some people I didn't know with emotional healing via ceremony;had a mystical encounter with a person which resulted in good happening for a number of people; various and sundry other things.

One thing, I know I'm not alone in having experiences like these; many in this area have had these type of experiences and many even more wondrous; we feel we have all been drawn to come live here and it is nice to have a living support group nearby.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 01:30 PM
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3. I find
Using words from thoughts and ideas can point but not deliver. So what can I say?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 05:23 PM
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6. Interesting
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peanutbrittle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 05:51 PM
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7. Pretty lame but....
I kind of like this site the best

http://www.plotinus.com/archives.htm
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TRYPHO Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 07:20 PM
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8. What ?! Rosicrucians and Templar traditions are "mystical" Bollocks they are!
More than thirty years of involvement with mystical and esoteric traditions such as the Rosicrucian and Templar traditions have helped me discover a most natural and direct way of unfolding Primordial Knowledge
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I don't suppose YOU have any experience of these crafts, but they are not mystical. They are organisations for men, that believe in God, wish to give to charity, enjoy others company from diverse backgrounds, and have a good time. But there is NOTHING mystical about them, and I shall inform the Rosicrucians that the website you linked claims they are. They might find it interesting.

The Freemasons aren't quoted, which is a shame, because I am very invloved in that craft. Any they are another one not to be thought of as anything other than a charitable organisation - but I wanted to get that in before someone else makes stupid claims to the contrary.

The Templars don't even exist any more - not since the 12th century I seem to recall, when the French puppet Pope decided they were heretical but in reality he just wanted their enormous wealth and property base for the benefit of the bankrupt French monarchy.

More reasons to dislike the Pope and the French.

TRYPHO
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TRYPHO Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 07:41 PM
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9. Hmmm..perhaps the Rosicrucians are a bit "fluffy"
But the Templars definitely died out in the 14th century!

Friday the 13th October, 1307 to be precise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templars

So how the person on your link could have studied with them is a bit hard to accept.

TRYPHO
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peanutbrittle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 09:49 PM
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10. I know.....I guess my point was more that
the op claims a bunch of racist sites in the google search and I was more pointing out that there are other sites that are more to the point of my OP regarding consiousness which has nothing to do with racism. I think I saw one site that looked like it might be racist and I certainly I didn't go there.
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