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mickeymystro Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:01 PM
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Clinton Should Not Be President Because She is a Female.
On his daily radio program, “Return to the Word”, broadcast in Denver, Colorado on KLTT AM, Pastor Ed Bulkley proclaimed that Hillary Clinton should not be president of the United States because she is a female. This is based on certain Biblical passages that suggest women should not have dominion over men. He also pointed out that women should not be pastors or ministers.

So, if your precious daughter walks up to you, sits in your lap, and tells you that she wants to be president of the United States when she grows up, be sure to tell her that Bulkley’s god would not approve of such silly plans. Although she may be smarter than every boy in her class, have endless creativity, show profound compassion for others, and possess a big heart, Bulkley’s god forbids such ambitions.

But tell her all is not lost, for while she may also not strive to be the CEO of a large corporation, owner of a business, or even a manager or supervisor of a large company, she can clean dishes and make beds to the glory of Bulkley’s god. And at least she can be thankful that Bulkley’s god does not require her to wear a veil over her face or surgically alter her sex organs like the gods of other men do.

When you kiss her goodnight, tell her that while she is limited in life by the primitive and superstitious beliefs of ancient writers who had not yet invented toilet paper and who could not perform 2nd-grade math, Bulkley’s god loves her. But Bulkley’s god desires that the messy business of running this screwed up world be left in the hands of men, who since the universe was created only 6,000 years ago, still cannot seem to get it right. While your beautiful daughter could possibly change the entire world with a wink and a smile, we must leave this task to evil men – mostly religious men – who labor under the direction of Bulkley’s god, or one of the other 9,999 gods who haunt this planet.

Tell your daughter that, because she was born a female, Pastor Ed Bulkley and others like him do not wish for her or any other little girls to dream big dreams. Their superstitions forbid this. And, sadly, her desires in life may forever be limited by the nonsensical, needless, and primitive beliefs of such backward men.


http://lifefellowshipfamily.com/index.cfm/method/content.aboutpastor
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:06 PM
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1. Theravada Buddhism says that women can't become enlightened
and are therefore not to be considered for Buddha's rebirths. It's my major disappointment with that particular sect, although I know its western teachers have discarded that bit in favor of political correctness and the reality of the situation.

All old religions are dedicated to keeping women subservient. Only a few of the newer ones to come along even give lip service to spiritual, social and economic equality between the sexes.

You can always tell which religions have been dreamed up by men: they always have male deities, male officials who speak to and for that deity or deities, and lots of inconvenient rules, mostly dedicated to the confinement of women.

To be a religious person in most of the world's religions means to accept to be born female is to be born inferior, handicapped, unfit.

Now you know why I left.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:29 PM
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2. One of the reasons neo-paganism speaks to so many women...
It's one of the few religions out there that glorifies women in almost every single one of its separate "sects" or "paths."

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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:48 PM
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3. I would bet that's one of the reasons fundamentalist Christians hate pagans
No surprise that all the witches they used to burn in Salem were women.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:50 PM
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4. It's probably a big part of their hatred for them.
We know how much fundies hate women...or, at least, women who actually have their own identies, goals, and purpose.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:19 PM
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6. Well, they were both sexes
and they were hanged, not burned. One man was crushed to death in the process of trying to get him to confess by laying boulders across his chest.

The witch trials in Salem settled a lot of old scores and grudges held in the community. The root cause of the hysteria is now thought to be ergot growing on that year's rye crop.

The McCarthy era was no different. People lived in fear that a neighbor or coworker they'd once argued with would turn them in as being commies. Lives, careers and families were destroyed on just that much evidence.

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 11:00 PM
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8. dupe delete
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 11:01 PM by struggle4progress
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John Gauger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:56 PM
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11. No witches were burned in Salem.
Eighteen people were hanged and one was crushed under a pile of stones. Several of these people were men, including Giles Corey, who was pressed to death under interrogation for refusing to enter a plea to spurious charges. In fact, to my knowledge no one was ever burned at the stake on this continent. That was all done in Europe during the Inquisition, before this continent was colonized by the European powers.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:06 PM
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14. ... The first auto-da-fé in Mexico took place in 1574; it was celebrated with so much pomp and
splendor, that eye-witnesses have declared that it could only be compared to that of Valladolid in 1559, at which Philip II and the royal family attended. A Frenchman and an Englishman were burnt as impenitent Lutherans ...
http://www.pinn.net/~sunshine/book-sum/llorente.html

... Hernando de Alonzo, who built the boats that Hernan Cortés used to assault Tenochtitlan .., was burned alive in México City in 1528 ... Alonzo was the first Jew in North America who was caught practising Judaism ... http://www.geocities.com/athens/acropolis/7016/Jews2.htm

... 1649 April 11, MEXICO The largest Auto da Fe in the New World was held with 109 victims. All but one of them were accused of Judaizing ... Thirteen were burned alive and 57 in effigy. Of the thirteen, twelve "repented" and so were garroted before being burned. Tomas Trevino, whose mother and wife had also been killed by the Inquisition, refused ... http://www.jewishhistory.org.il/history.php?letter=m


Rare documents shed light on grisly Mexican Inquisition
Friday October 11, 1996
LESLIE KATZ Bulletin Staff
In 16th-century Mexico, sisters Isabel de Carvajal de Andrade and Leonor de Carvajal were strangled with iron collars and burned at the stake. Their crime -- practicing Judaism. U.C. Berkeley's Bancroft Library recently acquired thousands of pages of documents -- until now thought lost or destroyed -- detailing testimony in the sisters' trial. The documents are part of an extensive collection of original rare records from the Mexican Inquisition, which lasted from 1570 until the end of the Spanish colonial period in the early 1800s ... http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/4658/edition_id/85/format/html/displaystory.html
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:13 PM
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15. "Witches" in Salem were hanged, not burned.
And they were not all women.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:04 PM
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12. Jealousy.
We can create life.

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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:11 PM
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5. Darn you, Mickey!
I wanted to post about this tonight! I was so outraged when you told me how you happened on Pastor Bulkley's program and what he had said, I was writing an OP in my head this afternoon. I'm not sure how you managed to listen long enough to get the gist of what he was saying.

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tcb

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mickeymystro Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:27 PM
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7. As a Former Born-Again Christian Myself...
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 11:05 PM by mickeymystro
As a former born-again Christian myself, I once believed this kind of nonsense. But after fifteen years away from the propaganda, it shocked me to hear this line anew. I cannot believe that any intelligent person would proclaim this kind of sexism in public. To believe that a god would hold such a low view of women is ridiculous. To believe that superstitious men would hold such a low view of women and then write it down in ancient texts is totally natural, believable and logical. Occam and his razor would be proud!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 11:34 PM
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9. Rightwing politics masquerading as religion again
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:29 AM
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10. Hell, nevermind being President
I have a friend who was trying to get a gig doing some leadership training for the local Southern Baptist megachurch and they had serious concerns about the fact that she'd be teaching men in her classes. She actually had to search for Bible verses justifying their hiring her for the job--and she's a member there! Imagine what it'd be like if you were an atheist/agnostic or otherwise not a member. Why she continues to attend a church that clearly views her as "less than" because of her gender is beyond me.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:17 PM
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13. He's an idiot.
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lips Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:13 AM
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16. Werd
n/t
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:41 AM
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17. Does he also think it's the last days?
If he's one of those end-timers, then give him this one:

Acts 2:18
Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.

Several have taken this to mean that God will break the chains of women in the final days. There's also this verse:

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

So, apparently, this preacher doesn't believe in the New Testament. Or the end times. Or think St. Paul's words are important. Interesting.
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