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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:55 AM
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Bishop forbids group from spreading material it claims is divine
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Bishop forbids group from spreading material it claims is divine
By Terence Hegarty
3/6/2008

Catholic News Service (www.catholicnews.com)
An investigative team, charged last November with looking into the Springfield-based prayer group known as Seeds of Hope, recently completed its review.

SPRINGFIELD, MA (CNS) - Stating that the authenticity of "messages, stories and devotions" being propagated by a local prayer group "has not been proven," Springfield Bishop Timothy A. McDonnell has forbidden the group from disseminating material it contends is of divine origin.

An investigative team, charged last November with looking into the Springfield-based prayer group known as Seeds of Hope, recently completed its review.

The results of the review prompted Bishop McDonnell to send Neil Harrington Jr., leader of the group, a letter dated Feb. 21 stating: "The content of those messages, stories and devotions is not to be disseminated by word, writing or any other means to any person."

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According to Springfield diocesan spokesman Mark E. Dupont, the investigative team was formed late last fall in response to "questions and concerns of several area parishioners" that Seeds of Hope was operating in a manner that could be harmful to Catholics.

More:
http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=27091&cb300=vocations

Talk about The Pope calling the kettle black!

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:57 AM
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1. "We alone have the Truth." - Pope B. & Rev. Moon
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:57 AM by SpiralHawk
Sharing the infallible...and passing the plate...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:00 AM
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2. Viva La Streisand Effect!
The Seeds of Hope

Including a letter from a former member of the “Inner Twelve Chosen People”

Richard Salbato 10-10-2007

Coming to a parish near you and placed in the back of the Church you may find publications from a group called, Seeds of Hope. Some of these publications are: Ten Commandments Book, Sanctifying The Day, Rebuild My Church, Sacrament of Mercy, The Seven Deadly Sins & the Gifts & Fruits of the Holy Spirit. These may seem good and edifying to you. But let us see where these publications come from because most people will not even think about the source, only the edification.

Neil Harrington Jr., a postal worker living in Springfield, Massachusetts claims that the Blessed Virgin Mary began appearing to him delivering weekly messages in 1992. These visitations occurred while Harrington attended his parent’s weekly prayer cenacle at their Enfield, Connecticut home. On May 1st 1994 Fr. John Szantyr gave a statue of the Rosa Mystica Blessed Virgin Mary to Harrington as a gift. Harrington and Szantyr had become acquainted months before at the Enfield prayer cenacle. According to Harrington this Rosa Mystica statue began to “weep” a substance from the eyes the first evening he had it in his possession. Days later the statue was transported to Harrington’s parents home for the weekly prayer cenacle, where it allegedly “wept” again, and was witnessed by a number of people.

Later in 1994, Harrington claims that the Virgin Mary herself chose Fr John (Szantyr) to be his spiritual director. Since that day Fr John Szantyr has been the only spiritual director that Neil has had. Around that same time, Neil Harrington Jr. claimed that the members of the Seeds of Hope were also named by The Blessed Virgin Mary. These 12 men were all attendees of the Enfield prayer cenacle. According Neil Harrington Jr. these men were chosen to help him spread throughout the world the messages he was receiving from the Blessed Virgin Mary and St. Francis of Assisi. While remaining weekly attendees of the Enfield cenacle, the men began meeting on a separate night; and those meetings were held at various locations and homes in the greater Springfield, Massachusetts area until 1998 when the Seeds of Hope established a permanent home in the converted attic of Harrington’s Springfield home. The group retained their P.O. Box in Ludlow, MA as it was originally established. Years later Harrington claimed that God through St Francis had named him “the head" of the group and his spiritual director Fr John (Szantyr) "the heart".

In Neil’s messages in which he claims have come from heaven, they have called Fr John Szantyr, a “blessed priest and a spiritual vessel.” In separate messages Neil Jr. alleges that he receives from St Francis, Fr John Szantyr is referred to as “Blessed Padre John.”

In August, 1995 the Hartford Diocesan Commission was established to review Neil's so called weeping Blessed Virgin statue. While the four priest commission sat in the Enfield Ct. "apparition room" during the Tuesday night prayer cenacle which had consistently for over a year yielded some type of phenomena, the Blessed Virgin Mary statue failed to weep.

More:
http://www.unitypublishing.com/Apparitions/SeedsOfHope.htm

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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:30 AM
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4. How awful do ya have to be to make a statue cry!?!?
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 11:43 AM by sheeptramp
"According to Harrington this Rosa Mystica statue began to “weep” a substance from the eyes the first evening he had it in his possession. Days later the statue was transported to Harrington’s parents home for the weekly prayer cenacle, where it allegedly “wept” again, and was witnessed by a number of people."



Witnesses say that later , when Harrington left the building, a cement lawn ornament of St Francis threw pinecones at him and maliciously kicked a bird-feeder onto his car.

Others say they have seen a figure of Jesus descend from a wall-mounted gilded crucifix, and threaten to kick Harrington's ass.

His local parish priest asked him to switch to a less crowded mass, because mass-goers were distracted when statues of various saints mooned Mr. Harrington during crowded services.
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IsabelleSu Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:46 AM
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10. Seeds of Hope Website
I just noticed that this group/Seeds of Hope Still has an active website.
I thought they had to close down....
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:23 AM
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3. Can the catholic church prove christ walked on water?
Can they prove Christ turned over tables and got mad about some business in the pursuit of tax collection? Can they prove Christ existed? Probably not, but I think that is what the faith is about? Why not let people believe in what gives them strength to get through this life. several area parishioners" that Seeds of Hope was operating in a manner that could be harmful to Catholics. If it turns out that it is a Jim Jones take over of the Catholics be there for them via prayer.

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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:48 AM
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5. Well, you've got your weeping statue...
what more proof do you need?
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hifalutin Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:35 PM
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11. Well said!
It is just a matter of faith, we don't need proof.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:04 PM
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6. I wonder... is Neil Harrington Jr. any relation to Brockton Mayor James Harrington? n/t
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:24 PM
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7. Well, if this group is made up of Catholics, then they have to fall in line
And frankly, since this appears to be factual: Seeds of Hope was in the media spotlight last September when it was reported that a priest who had been forbidden to act as a priest since 1988, as a result of credible sexual abuse allegations against him, had been celebrating sacraments at Harrington's Springfield home, I don't see any need to support these people over the big, bad bishop.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:25 PM
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8. I'm just happy to see a good fight. Who needs to take sides?
Just throw some gasoline on the fire and watch the pretty sparks.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:28 PM
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9. Oh, hey, don't get me wrong!
Even when I was a young and devout catholic I enjoyed seeing the local fraudsters get theirs. There was a woman in College Point when I was growing up, said the Virgin appeared to her and said women should go back to wearing the mantilla when entering the church building. You'd think Mary would have something more important to say...
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