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AnnaLouise Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:08 PM
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Christian Vegetarian Links


http://www.egroups.com/messages/christianveg
over 10,000 posts
http://www.all-creatures.org
http://www.christianveg.com
http://catholicveg.blogspot.com
http://episcoveg.weblogger.com/2005/01/28?print-friendly=tru
http://compassionatespirit.com/
http://www.hacres.com Vegan Hallelujah Acres
http://groups.msn.com/christianveg/salvationarmytext.msnw
(Original Salvation Army on vegetarian diet)
http://www.acfnewsource.org/religion/christian_vegetarian.html




Christian vegetarian links


* <[url=http://www.christianvegetarian.co.uk>http://www.christianvegetarian.co.uk Christian Vegetarian
Association UK]
* <[url=http://catholicveg.blogspot.com>http://catholicveg.blogspot.com Catholic Vegetarians]
* <[url=http://episcoveg.webblogger.com>http://episcoveg.webblogger.com Episcopalian Vegetarian]
* <[url=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/methodistveg/messages/1558>]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/methodistveg/messages/1558]
vegetarian John Wesley and Methodist Veg.
* <[url=http://www.adventist.org/>http://www.adventist.org/ Adventists give vegan international
relief]
* <[url=http://www.hacres.com>http://www.hacres.com Hallelujan Acres]
* <[url=http://a4.nu/christian/index.htm>http://a4.nu/christian/index.htm Christian Religion and Vegetarian
Resources]
* <[url=http://www.compassionatespirit.com/was_jesus_a_vegetarian.htm>http://www.compassionatespirit.com/was_jesus_a_vegetarian.htm Was
Jesus a vegetarian?] - article by <[Keith Akers>]
*
<[url=http://www.thenazareneway.com/Biblical_Opposition_to_Flesh_Eating.htm>http://www.thenazareneway.com/Biblical_Opposition_to_Flesh_Eating.htm
Biblical Opposition to Flesh Eating]
* <[url=http://www.jesusveg.com>http://www.jesusveg.com An extensive website about vegetarianism
from the Christian perspective, run by People for the Ethical
Treatment of Animals]
* <[url=http://www.christianitytoday.com/bc/2005/006/13.14.html>http://www.christianitytoday.com/bc/2005/006/13.14.html
ChristianityToday.com Books and Culture] "Revenge of the Ebionites"
book review by <[Stephen H. Webb>]
* <[url=http://www.animalsuffering.com/religion.html>http://www.animalsuffering.com/religion.html Animal Rights and its
role in religion]
* <[url=http://www.vegetarianfriends.net/issue10.html#3>http://www.vegetarianfriends.net/issue10.html#3 Review by Urrutia
of ''Good News for all Creation: Vegetarianism as Christian
Stewardship'' by Stephen R. Kaufman and Nathan Braun]
* <[url=http://www.vnv.org.au/Christianity.htm>http://www.vnv.org.au/Christianity.htm Christianity and
Vegetarianism: Some Thoughts, compiled by David Ogilvie]
* <[url=http://www.godandanimals.com/PAGES/edits/linzey.html>http://www.godandanimals.com/PAGES/edits/linzey.html Christianity
and Animals by Andrew Linzey]
* <[url=http://www.satyamag.com/feb96/linzey.html>http://www.satyamag.com/feb96/linzey.html Christianity and Animals:
An Interview with Andrew Linzey (1996)]
* <[url=http://www.all-creatures.org/gcm/candv.html>http://www.all-creatures.org/gcm/candv.html Christianity and
Vegetarianism PowerPoint presentation, by God's Creatures Ministry]
* <[url=http://www.petaliterature.com/VEG612.pdf''Christianity>http://www.petaliterature.com/VEG612.pdf''Christianity and
Vegetarianism - Pursuing the non-violence of Jesus'', Fr. John Dear S.J]
* <[url=http://groups.msn.com/christianveg>http://groups.msn.com/christianveg Salvation Army's founders
vegetarian]



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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:09 PM
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1. Probably helpful for any of the 7th Day Adventists out there
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:10 PM
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2. Not all Christian Veg*ns are SDA. nt
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:11 PM
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4. Nope not all of them
But a good deal of SDA'ers are Veg, or Vegan

A good deal of SDA'ers are lefties too. Not quite Quaker lefty, but leftier than most protestants.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:48 PM
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9. SDA's support Church/State separation.
Some of their doctrines are pretty conservative...but they believe in freedom of conscience regarding religion, and work actively to promote Church/State separation.

A major theme in SDA eschatology asserts that Church and State in America will eventually unite, beginning a period of religious persecution ending in the Second Coming of Jesus.

They believe this move will have worldwide ramifications, but be led by an alliance of "apostate" Protestantism, Catholicism, and Judaism in the US.

They were hyistorically non-combatants, allowing medical or non-combatant service during time of war, but have recently shifted their stance to allow that decision to be made by the individual believer.
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:12 PM
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5. I've been at Methodist vegan for 33 years.
And I've been attacked by militant carnivores every one of them.
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:11 PM
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3. Thanks for the compilation.
Of course the militant carnivore attack is immediate.

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AnnaLouise Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:15 PM
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6. For Bob John Wesley's vegetarian diet
John Wesley's vegetarian diet

Diet and Health: John Wesley
founder of the Methodists.
http://www.all-creatures.org

(in v 6 of his collected writings, Wesley
is recorded as saying that on the
advice of his physician Dr Cheyne he had
become vegetarian)

The Church, collectively, has been strangely silent on the connection between our diet and health, and our physical and spiritual well being. The only major exceptions to this silence, that we are aware of, have been the Seventh Day Adventist Church and the non-affiliated ministry of George H. Malkmus who founded Hallelujah Acres .

Very early in John Wesley's ministry, he realized that there was a connection between physical and spiritual health. If the body was sick, then the person's focus would likely be diverted from God. When he came to America in the mid 1700's, he continued this teaching and was criticized for it by local clergy and the Anglican Bishop of London. Following is an excerpt from John Wesley's response to the bishop:

By 'extraordinary strictnesses and severities,' I presume your Lordship means the abstaining from wine and animal food; which, it is sure, Christianity does not require. But if you do, I fear your Lordship is not thoroughly informed of the matter of fact. I began to do this about twelve years ago, when I had no thought of 'annoying parochial ministers,' or of 'captivating' any 'people' thereby, unless it were the Chicasaw or Choctaw Indians. But I resumed the use of them both, about two years after, for the sake of some who thought I made it a point of conscience; telling them, 'I will eat flesh while the world standeth' rather than 'make my brother to offend.' Dr. Cheyne advised me to leave them off again, assuring me, 'Till you do, you will never be free from fevers.' And since I have taken his advice, I have been free (blessed be God) from all bodily disorders.1

Both John Wesley and his physician knew that the eating of animals and their by-products (eggs and dairy) was injurious to health. Wesley had first hand knowledge of this, as do we, today, yet most people don't want to hear about it. Why? Because most people don't want to change their lifestyle, so they resort to trying to silence the prophets of truth, and for a little while they were successful in doing so with John Wesley. However, when his illnesses returned, he resumed being a strict vegetarian and he regained his health. Unfortunately, Wesley was not forceful enough with passing along these truths about diet and health and, as a result, most of these vegetarian dietary truths have been lost in the teachings of the Methodist and other churches among whom he had influence. It is time we reverse this mistake.

We have an obligation to learn about the connections between animal foods and chronic illnesses, and about a proper vegetarian diet. Likewise, we have an obligation to speak forth to our congregations about these things, for to do otherwise promotes violence to their health, to their spiritual well-being, and to their personal finances. Personally, we never found out about these thing in the church. Our education about diet and health came from our own experience and from people and organizations outside the church.

Poor health can be a tremendous drain on personal finances, and when people worry about these things it has an injurious effect on their physical well-being, so that their health is further deteriorated. Thus, our silence on the advantages of a vegetarian (vegan) diet really does violence to people's health, finances, and well-being.

Jesus is often referred to as the "Great Physician". It is interesting to note that God's original intent was for us and our fellow creatures to eat only plant foods (Genesis 1:29-30). The diet of good health and healing was set in motion from the very beginning for all who would receive it.

We have an obligation to learn and speak out.

1. Letter to the Dr. Gibson, Bishop of London, LONDON, June 11, 1747, in The Letters of John Wesley Edited by John Telford -- London: Epworth Press, 1931. Available online: http://wesley.nnu.edu/Letters/1747.htm as part of http://wesley.nnu.edu/Letters/

The intent of this series is to wake up and encourage the Church to greater works of love and compassion (John 14:12). It is not to condemn the Church, in general, or any individual, any more than Jesus condemned the woman caught in adultery. Jesus said to her, "...go your way. From now on sin no more." (John 8:11) And this is our message to the Church: Recognize our sins of the past and go forth seeking to be perfect as our heavenly Father is perfect (Matthew 5:48), correcting the sins of the past, for that is the only way we can truly show the world that we love the Lord our God with all our heart, soul, might, and mind, including the whole of creation, which includes our neighbors whom we are to love as ourselves.



Your questions and comments are welcome flh@all-creatures.org

www.all-creatures.org .
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:24 PM
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7. Wesley was a social liberal, too.
Not only his compassion for all sentient beings, but also fought for workers rights and was a champion of women's rights as well.

Though he claims to be, busholini is NO METHODIST.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:34 PM
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10. Are all carnivores
militant? Or just a select group of them?



To be honest, I find the mixing of vegetarian topics with the religious topics a stroke of genius. Religion and Theology has been getting a little slow with the election. But combining two polarizing topics together should prove that there is some fight left in the old R/T!


:Rubbing hands together in anticipation!::


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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 04:37 PM
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8. There's a vegetarian group at DU
Consider cross posting over there.

Thanks.
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