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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:19 PM
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Ritualized cannibalism......
"The Body of Christ!"
"The Blood of Christ!"
Talk amongst yourselves........
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:21 PM
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1. here we go.....
:popcorn:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:55 PM
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6. I'm with you...
:popcorn:
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:14 PM
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8. feh...
never took off....
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:23 PM
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2. I cast thee out Troll!
Begone ye troll!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:26 PM
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3. "The Lamb of God"
Christ is often depicted as a lamb in Christian art - in reference to the lamb given up as a sacrifice to God in ancient Hebrew rituals.

What do you think they did with the lamb AFTER the ritual?
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:34 PM
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4. Oh,I thought you meant how some progressives sabotage themselves
by alienating other progressives.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:49 PM
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5. Ah, the fine art of metaphor,
allegory, symbolism, and mysticism.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:15 PM
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7. I moved this from the Lounge to Religion/Theology.
I'm Catholic and despite the infalamatory title of this thread, I'm not offended by this post. The ancient Romans used to say this, so we're kinda used to it by now. It may open up a discussion about the history behind this wonderful sacrament.

I'm not inclined to lock this unless it starts getting disrespectful of Christians, but I've moved it to the Religion/Theology room.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:50 PM
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9. More "special rights" for the Xians, I see.
It's ok, the rest of us are used to it.

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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 07:37 PM
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10. Communion IS a cannabalistic ritual.
Since when is the truth considered "inflamatory" on DU?
Apparently only when it might offend christians.

From bannedbooks.com:
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One of the more obvious of these is the "sacred meal" or ritualistic cannibalism. We still practice this ritual today in the Protestant and Roman Catholic communion, where we eat the body and drink the blood of the divine leader.

The Christian church calls it "communion," or "taking communion." The communicant eats and drinks, symbolically or literally, the flesh and blood of the divine "leader." The traditional invitation to Communion, spoken by the presiding clergy, is this: "Take, eat, this is my body . . . this cup is the new covenant is my blood . . . drink."

Eating a body and drinking blood is a cannibalistic theme, no matter how hard the clergy try to water it down, or theo-babble around it by calling it "only symbolic" cannibalism. In the 9th century, the clergy said that God made the flesh of Jesus only look like a wafer so as not to upset the worshipers. They were really cannibals, but they didn't have to face up to it, admit it, or be vividly aware of it.

How convenient. History reeks with Theo-babble. ("Theo" God-babble.) One anthropological scholar who has spent a lifetime studying this ritual is Dr. Jean-Paul Dumont, professor of anthropology at the University of Washington. He writes: "Cannibalism has always been a part of religious behavior. The principle is the same . . . acquiring through ingestion the powers of something, whether human or divine. The purpose has always been to take on the qualities of the person being eaten. Through the ritual you share in the divinity of the one being eaten. In our Christian traditions we still practice this cannibalistic ritual in taking Communion."
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http://www.banned-books.com/truth-seeker/1996archive/123_1/12communion.html




From Christ in the Eucharist at catholic.com:

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Jesus first repeated what he said, then summarized: "‘I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh.’ The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, ‘How can this man give us his flesh to eat?’" (John 6:51–52).

His listeners were stupefied because now they understood Jesus literally—and correctly. He again repeated his words, but with even greater emphasis, and introduced the statement about drinking his blood: "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him" (John 6:53–56).
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Paul wrote to the Corinthians: "The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?" (1 Cor. 10:16). So when we receive Communion, we actually participate in the body and blood of Christ, not just eat symbols of them. Paul also said, "Therefore whoever eats the bread and drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. . . . For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself" (1 Cor. 11:27, 29). "To answer for the body and blood" of someone meant to be guilty of a crime as serious as homicide. How could eating mere bread and wine "unworthily" be so serious? Paul’s comment makes sense only if the bread and wine became the real body and blood of Christ.
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http://www.catholic.com/library/Christ_in_the_Eucharist.asp
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