Why I think the bible

[undergroundpanther]

or books like it are dangerous.


First lets look at...

How bible literalists think..
http://www.raredoctrine.com/apologetics.htm

http://pwccaman.tripod.com/

Why are evangelists supporting Jews? A very SELFISH REASON!
http://www.preteristarchive.com/PartialPreterism/north-gary_th_01.html

How many churches are encouraged to take it literally?
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Chicago+Statement+on+Biblical+Inerrancy&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1

Here is what it looks liike when the bible is taken literally in the real world. Warning violent images.
http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/81910.php

The Judaeo-Christians' own Bible demonstrates Jehovah, their god, to be a psychotic,contradictory megalomaniac.

One of Jehovah's first actions towards mankind was to attempt to deny his new creation wisdom, lest his position as slavemaster be threatened. (Gen. 2:16-17, 3:1-7).

Jehovah is a god whose bloodlust against humanity can't be satisfied until the Apocalypse described by John in the Revelation destroys most of mankind and leaves Jehovah and Jesus enthroned as world tyrants above remnant.

From his rejection of the fruit offering of Cain in favour of the blood sacrifice of Abel (Gen. 4:3-5) until the final Apocalypse, when blood will flow from 'the winepress of the wrath of God' (Rev. 14:19-20) the hands of Jehovah are dripping with blood.

MORE Verses of Morbid violence:

“And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel.” (Judges 19:29)

" As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies. Dt 20:15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby."

Hosea 13:16 "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up."

It's not just an OLD testament..issue..
2 Timothy 3:16 states that the Bible is "God-breathed," or inspired.
His revealed word, the Scriptures, are so important that Jesus said of them, "Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God" (Luke 4:4). In other words, if you want to live life to the fullest God intended, listen and heed (obey)God's written word...it is more important than even having food!

Is it really?

http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-literal.html


Revelations is full of genocides. Here are some.

Revelation 6:8 (the 4th seal) "I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! It's rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

Revelation 9:15 (the 6th seal) "And the four angels who had been kept ready for this very hour and day and month and year were released to kill a third of mankind."

Imagine 1/3 off all the people on earth slaughtered.
Lets put this into numbers...
Here's a quick calculation
assuming an initial population of 6 000 000 000:

1/4 are killed when the 4th seal is opened: 1/4 of 6.0 billion is 1.5 billion, leaving 4.5 billion survivors.

1/3 are killed then the 6th seal is opened: 1/3 of 4.5 billion is 1.5 billion, leaving 3.0 billion survivors.

Exactly half of Humankind are killed, and this calculation is only using TWO of the seven seals!

That is GHASTLY.

Tell this verse to the culture of LIFE conrtrol freaks..
How are they going to enforce thier "culture of life"? Forced GYN exams? ON EVERY WOMAN??!!


READ how the bible looooves babies.

Exodus 4:22-23 "Then you must tell him that I, the Lord, say, 'Israel is my first born son. I told you to let my son go, so that he might worship me, but you refused. Now I am going to kill your first-born son.'"

Exodus 32:29 "Moses said to the Levites, "Today you have consecrated yourselves as priests in the service of the Lord by killing your sons and brothers, so the Lord has given you his blessing.""

Numbers 31:17 (Moses) "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him (in other words: women that might be pregnant)."


How can you call a god like this GOOD? How can you love such a monster and give your heart to it? How? Look at history it condems the bible, it's full of biblically inspired book burnings,genocides ,inquisitions, crusades and church pedophile scandals ,We got Dobson beating up his little dog,and justifying child abuse based on his defiant dog,And there are always all those ever eager wannabe cotton mathers and Jimmy Swaggarts making damn sure all are clean and pure except himself.

Read more about taking things literal..
http://www.dimensional.com/~randl/tinq.htm


The bible is no guide for a person's morality, public policy,foriegn policy or ANYTHING else.

[ClassicDem]

1. And there are some who...

believe that individual thought is dangerous.

[undeterred]

2. Very sophisticated exegesis.

[undergroundpanther]

3. Thanks...

exegesis 2:8
And so it was written ?

LOL just laughing at the word..exegesis
sounds like another chapter...Interesting choice of word.

http://notthebible.8m.com/b2.htm

[Deja Q]

4. The bible is a fucking JOKE.

Not when people who run this country and our corporations are doing what they are in the name of it. Their actions are the antithesis of Jesus' teachings and are ROTTEN TO THE VERY CORE.

And people are sitting by leeting jobs go overseas, * signing bills that give Indians and other exploited peoples the ability to come here so they can learn English before being carted back (OUR tax dollars subsidizing THE EXTERMINATION of the middle class...)

If there is to be no revolution, I may as well kill myself now. The middle class isn't worth saving if it isn't going to stand up in protest. Why not? American Idol is on. :grr: Not that I wouldn't anyway; I'd rather be dead than homeless/hungry/whateverthefuckasInolongergiveashit.

Don't worry, I'm seeing my counselor on Thursday. Undoubtedly I'll get a new drug that'll fuck with my brain chemistry while help disintegrate my body that much further...

[undergroundpanther]

5. Hypno I'm on the same page

I think the bible is a very dangerous piece of propaganda myself..and until more people get off the opiate of the masses and realize how the users of this old book of propaganda have messed up this world,messed up human minds and destroyed lives,ruined relationships. Christians have to deal with the reality that some people HAVE been hurt by believers in that book (because of what it SAYS and what it excuses)and that thier god is an impotent lie a promise that will never be,that motivates murder and abuse more than it ever did,kindness..Someday religious people are going to have to stop abusing,controliing ,dominating and trying to make beliervers out of other people,expecially kids.

God saves no one from abuse.
God saves no one from thier own asshole.
And if the bible cannot stop this assholiness problem and even actively gets in the way of letting people be happy and get along(chritianity causes strife between many groups seeking human rights) than what's the point?
Jesus might call itself a peacemaker,but tell me what's the sword for?

[Disturbed]

6. Most Western religions are Death Cults.

Blood spewing. The Bible is repleat with deat, torture and destruction. Why need to wonder about all the wars with the pretext of religion behind them?

[The Magistrate]

8. You Will Find, Sir, On Close Examination

That statement could be extended to a much wider application....

[Tux]

9. Only solution

Thomas Jefferson's The Teachings and Morals of Jesus of Nazureth aka the Jefferson Bible. NT only, nothing supernatural, only the things form the 4 gospels have in common, and very peaceful reading. Liberal Chrsitians should give that a read and see how different the Bibles are.

[dpt223]

7. Some good points

However, people that do not think critically can make anything dangerous.

[demwing]

10. Well, well, well, this is very Interesting...

Here's what I found in your long post, picking out only the bits that helped me promote you as a whako nut job.

"I, a psychotic,contradictory megalomaniac, deny humanity and favour the blood wrath of Jehovah."

Those were your words! Ok, patched together, and lacking context, but your words nonetheless.

Not a fair reading of your post, you say?

And neither is the Bible--in its present state--a fair reading of what Christianity is all about. Understand that, and blame the false leaders that corrupted the scriptures, who picked out the bits that helped them keep their church members in line through fear.

Don't blame the scriptures, nor the inspiriation for the scriptures.

[The Magistrate]

11. As A Matter Of Curiousity, Sir

What do you think the uncorrupted state of the book was, and when do you think the book existed in that state?

What do you think was the inspiration for the book?