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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 07:48 PM
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'Wow you guys, it's called Christmas for a reason." - war on Christmas update
Merry Hyatt, Tea Party Patriot, Wants Mandatory Christmas Carols In Public Schools

The Tea Party movement is supposed to be all about keeping the government out of your business. But if some California members get their way, the state will force public schoolchildren to sing Christmas carols.

It's called the "Freedom to Present Christmas Music in Public School Classrooms or Assemblies" initiative.

Merry Hyatt, a substitute teacher and member of the Redding Tea Party Patriots, is behind the push. The Record Searchlight reports:

The initiative would require schools to provide children the opportunity to listen to or perform Christmas carols, and would subject the schools to litigation if the rule isn't followed.

Schools currently are allowed to offer Christmas music as long as it is used for academic purposes rather than devotional purposes and isn't used to promote a particular religious belief, according to an analysis by the California Legislative Analyst's Office.

Parents are allowed to have their students opt out of the caroling if they express that desire in advance.

"We were having Christmas without Jesus," Hyatt complained of her previous school district.

The initiative has the support of the local Tea Party Patriots president.

"Bottom line is Christmas is about Christmas," said Erin Ryan, president of the Redding Tea Party Patriots. "That's why we have it. It's not about winter solstice or Kwanzaa. It's like, 'Wow you guys, it's called Christmas for a reason.' "


American Patriots loves baby Jesus.

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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 07:50 PM
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1. I read this story and I wanted to drive to her location and kick her stupid ass.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 07:51 PM
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2. If it was about Jesus' birthday, it would be during Sukkot. n/t
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 07:51 PM
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3. So take your kids to Sunday school and let them sing Christmas carols there.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 07:55 PM
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4. Heard on Stephanie Miller the other day
From John Fugelsang, "I'll put Christ back in Christmas when you put Christ back in Christianity."
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 10:58 PM
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9. I like it. It puts the burden of actually following the tenets of his
ministry right back in the laps of the loudmouth fundies who have been violating those tenets.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 08:30 PM
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5. Damn. Ignorance can be entertaining sometimes. But this is just plain sad.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 09:29 PM
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6. I'll betcha this teabagger's idea of Christian songs are
Frosty the Snowman & Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer.

After all, Frosty and Rudolph are mentioned in the Bible.

:sarcasm:
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 04:11 AM
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13. +1 and Santa, can't forget Santa
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 09:39 PM
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7. While I can understand your revulsion.....
Edited on Thu Dec-10-09 09:45 PM by DeSwiss
...because my first response upon reading this article was that I wanted to put a boot to the hind quarters of anyone who seeks to force their religious beliefs onto others. However, I must also say that this is probably one of the clearer signs that religion is truly on its deathbed. Because it reflects an unambiguous sign of the level of fear that runs throughout the older generation (which is also my own) when they begin flailing about trying to come up with some way to insure that their brand of insanity is preserved into the future. So as it had done in its beginning, the religionists are once again trying to use the power of the state to FORCE people into submission.

But all they'll get now is more and more resistance.

Because this ain't Constantinople. Those days are over. And this ain't the Dark Ages (although there have been times when it's felt pretty damned dim). This ain't the days of The Inquisition nor of Plymouth Rock and The Puritans with their burning of witches. If we will not pray in schools, what makes you think you can make us sing your stupid prayers in them?

Jingle Bells? No problem. Frosty the Snowman? Okay. Away in the Manger? Fuck that!

The time of institutionalized and approved ignorance is coming to an end. Why? Because as a species we've allowed our societies to be undermined with the cancer of fear and ignorance as is reflected in religion's creed and which at its outset sought to keep man from KNOWLEDGE. And that same aversion for truth and knowledge that religion has promoted as its principle theme, has also allowed for the development of a worldwide oligarchy that now threatens to ruin the very societies upon which is preys. And, like any cancer, it has only one purpose. To grow bigger -- even if it means killing its host. Which as with religion, in its stupidity cannot it understand that this is contrary to its aims. So these attempts at coercion will only make the resistance stronger and more fierce.

Non-believers have a message for all religionists out there who believe that coercion and force is the only card they have left: "We are not going backwards with you. Got it? And we won't let you take any innocents backwards with you either."

And if history is any kind of a guide at all, then it is clear that all religions come to an end. Throughout recorded history, religions have come and gone, and these latest versions from the past few thousand years, are but a small blip on the radar screen of that history. It is in our nature as humans to kill-off religions when they become useless to us or when another force greater than they are crushes them. Which is why religion is seeking out government for protection now, because it knows that its end is near. But it won't work. Conformity to ignorance was the Teabagger's way-of-life, but not their children, nor their grandchildren's way.

As the youth of tomorrow continue to reject the ignorance and the fear which is all that religion has to offer, fewer and fewer people will be around to support them. Until one day like the last of a dying breed, these backwards looking institutions will succumb.

- It's only natural.

K&R





"One man's theology is another man's belly laugh." - Robert Heinlein


on edit: spelling
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 09:39 PM
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8. Well what the hell -- they had Christmas without Jesus for years before he
was even born.

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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 11:56 PM
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10. Mr. Garrison is sad...
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 03:29 AM
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11. It worked. I am right now singing "The Little Dumber Girl."
Edited on Sat Dec-12-09 03:30 AM by onager
P.S - I know I'm just a literalist asshat, but "Little Drummer Boy" always struck me as one of the stupidest Xmas songs ever.

I can just hear Mary now...

"Hey, moron! Yeah, you, the little shit behind the donkey and the three Iranian heathens with the bling. This is a newborn and I just got him to sleep. You hit that frigging drum one more time and I'm gonna break it over your head."
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 09:15 AM
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14. And the melody sounds like something one would hum to his/her own suicide. n/t
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 07:46 PM
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12. The Reason for the Season is......


AXIAL TILT!!!

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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 09:24 AM
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15. These people wish deep down that they could convert others by force.
Like in the attrocities commited by religious groups in recorded history.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:39 AM
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16. They might as well call it Krishna-mas.
Because Christ, Krishna, and Charisma all have the same root.
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