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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 04:12 PM
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A summary of the evolution-creationism "debate."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBHEsEshhLs

This video summarizes the "debate" over evolution and creationism/intelligent design pretty accurately.

Enjoy.
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Learning Nomad Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 04:35 PM
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1. Summarizes the aggravation of arguing with creationists pretty well. n/t
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 04:43 PM
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2. omg. That is PERFECT! and a bit sad....
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 04:48 PM
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3. Its funny that xtians on this board argue JUST LIKE THAT!
It must be a course in sunday school they have to take.
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greennina Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 05:19 PM
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4. "Sunday school?"
No wonder those idiots are wacked. It's bad enough going to school five days a week. Is that what they really do or were you just posting an exxageration?
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 06:20 PM
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6. What do you think?
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 05:36 PM
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5. That video sounds just like your common, run of the mill conservative/republican
presenting their obstructionist arguments against whatever.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 06:26 PM
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7. Cut from the same authoritarian cloth.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:45 PM
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8. It's a lot like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM

"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." - Scott D. Weitzenhoffer
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 01:49 AM
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10. It really is
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 10:22 PM
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9. K&R
"Geology shows that fossils are of different ages. Paleontology shows a fossil sequence, the list of species representing change through time. Taxonomy shows biological relationships among species. Evolution is the explanation that threads it all together. Creationism is the practice of squeezing one's eyes shut and wailing "Does not!" - Anonymous










http://www.archive.org/details/biblemythsandthe00doanuoft">Bible Myths and Parallels In Other Pagan Religions

http://www.authorama.com/god-idea-of-the-ancients-1.html">The God-Idea of the Ancients (or Sex in Religion)
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Laura902 Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 04:32 PM
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11. Soo funny and true n/t
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 05:09 PM
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12. Here's a real-life version
Part 1 of 7: Richard Dawkins and Wendy Wright

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US8f1w1cYvs

I don't know how Dawkins contains himself and doesn't go postal. I've only watch parts 1 and 2 myself so far, I don't no if I can bear the rest.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 07:04 PM
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13. I've seen it before, it's too painful to watch again.
Edited on Mon Jan-11-10 07:05 PM by laconicsax
Thanks to The Greatest Show on Earth, I can excerpt the interview without having to watch it again:
Wendy: What I go back to is the evolutionists are still lacking the science to back it up. But instead what happens is science that doesn't bolster the case for evolution gets censored out. Such as there is no evidence of evolution from going from one species to another species. If tat, if evolution had occurred then surely whether it's going from birds to mammals or, or, even beyond that surely there'd be at least one evidence.

Richard: There's a massive amount of evidence. I"m sorry but you people keep repeating that like kind of mantra because, you, you, just listen to each other. I mean, if only you would just open your eyes and look at the evidence.

Wendy: Show it to me, show me the, show me the bones, show me the carcass, show me the evidence of the in-between stages from one species to another.

Richard: Every time a fossil is found which is in between one species and another you guys say, 'Ah, now we've got two gaps where there, were previously there was only one.' I mean almost every fossil you fin is intermediate between something and something else.

Wendy <laughs>: If that were the case, the Smithsonian Natural History Museum would be filled with these examples but it isn't.

Richard: It is, it is...in the case of humans, since Darwin's time there's now an enormous amount of evidence about intermediates in human fossil and you've got various species of Australopithecus for example, and...then you've got Homo habilis--these are intermediates between Australopithecus which was an older species and Homo sapiens which is a younger species. I mean, why don't you see those as intermediates?

Wendy:...if evolution has had the actual evidence then it would be displayed in museums not just in illustrations.

Richard: I just told you about Australopithecus, Homo habilis, Homo erectus, Homo sapiens--archaic Homo sapiens and then modern Homo sapiens--that's a beautiful series of intermediates.

Wendy: You're still lacking the material evidence so...

Richard: The material evidence is there Go to the museum and look at it...I don't have them here obviously, but you can go to any museum and you can see Australopithecus, you can see Homo habilis, you can see Homo erectus, you can see archaic Homo sapiens and modern Homo sapiens. A beautiful series of intermediates. Why do you keep saying 'Present me with the evidence' when I've done so? Go to the museum and look.

Wendy: And I have. I have gone to the museums and there are so many of us who are still not convinced...

Richard: Have you seen, have you seen Homo erectus?

Wendy: And I think there's this effort, this rather aggressive effort to try and talk over us and censor us. It seems to come out of a frustration that so many people still don't believe in evolution. Now if evolutionists were so confident there wouldn't be the effort to censor out information. It shows that evolution is still lacking and is questionable.

Richard: I am...I confess to being frustrated. It's not about suppression, it's about the fact that I have told you about four or five fossils...<Wendy laughs>...and you seem to simply be ignoring what I'm saying...Why don't you go and look at those fossils?

Wendy:...If they were in the museums which I've been to many times, then I would look at them objectively, but what I go back to is...

Richard: They are in the museum.

Wendy: What I go back to is that the philosophy of evolution can lead to ideologies that have been so destructive to the human race...

:banghead:
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 07:39 PM
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14. Yes, Wendy yes. And of course religious ideologies.....
...are NEVER destructive. Besides, I'm certain that you prefer your god's magic over science because you probably have less trouble pronouncing the words.


- Like I've always been taught, you can fix ignorant with knowledge, but there ain't no fix for stupid......
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