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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:27 PM
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Is Jesus tooo White?
I think so. Many, maybe even most religious artifacts have what seems to be a White Jesus.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:31 PM
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1. Yes!

I'm sick of people saying I look like the dude (just because I have a beard and long hair.)

A more historically accurate Jesus with curly greasy hair and darker skin would relieve that problem for me.



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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:41 PM
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2. Not real tall. Not remarkable broad-shouldered, nor "lordly".
I like Nikos Kazantzakis on the historical Jesus in The Last Temptation of Christ (he also did a book about St. Francis, and a sequel to The Odyssey). Did he write Zorba the Greek too?

Anyway, NK woke me up to American pretensions concerning Jeshua.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:53 PM
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3. Frankly
I think were portraying jesus as to american. Look at some of the coloring books. He's looks like a lot like hulk hogan these days.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:19 PM
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4. Really? I haven't seen any religious coloring books.
hhhhhmmmmmmmmmm . . . . . .. Hulk Hogan for all of those behaviorally engineered little "Christians".
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:48 PM
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6. I dont think jesus was "skinny" either
I mean he was a carptenter imagine all the lifting and hammering he had to do. Which would make the crucifixation that much more painful.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:30 AM
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9. Hey that "skinny" thing is scary!!! Have you seen the 10 Commandments of
Ana (anorexia - really is sick! - thanatopic.)

I think I saw somewhere that it is on the increase, supposed to be about power/control issues, which all of us have, of course, but kids flirt with anorexia and bulimia and get addicted. It's very destructive.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:31 PM
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5. What did Jesus look like? Here's some guesses. And what did he SMELL like?
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 04:41 PM by IanDB1
What did Jesus look like?


Question: "What did Jesus look like?"

Answer: The Bible never gives any physical description of Christ. The closest thing we get to a description is in Isaiah 53:2b, “He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.” All this tells us is that Jesus’ appearance was just like any other man – He was ordinary looking. Most of the images we have of Jesus are probably very inaccurate. Jesus was a Jew, so He likely had very tan skin, dark eyes, and dark hair. This is a far cry from the blond-haired, blue-eyed, fair-skinned Jesus in most modern pictures.
http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-look-like.html


Yeshua of Nazareth:
What did he look like?





In recent portrayals by Caucasian Christian artists, Yeshua ben Nazereth (a.k.a. Jesus Christ) has typically been shown with a light skin, a long "Presbyterian" nose, very long hair, and a height probably in excess of six feet. The face of Jim Caviezel, who plays Jesus in the movie "The Passion of the Christ," is similar to many modern-day images of Jesus. He is shown in the right picture above. Carlos F. Cardoza-Orlandi, associate professor of world Christianity at Columbia Theological Seminary in Atlanta, GA, commented: "While Western imagery is dominant, in other parts of the world he is often shown as black, Arab or Hispanic." 3 However, these have been based on pure speculation by the artists.

<snip>

Starting with the assumption that Jesus resembled a typical peasant from 1st century CE Palestine, Richard Neave, a medical artist retired from the University of Manchester in England, and a team of researchers "started with an Israeli skull dating back to the 1st century. They then used computer programs, clay, simulated skin and their knowledge about the Jewish people of the time to determine the shape of the face, and color of eyes and skin." 2 Mike Fillon followed the research and wrote an article about the portrait in "Popular Mechanics" magazine. 3 He said during a CNN interview that: "There are very strong rabbinical laws in Israel that you cannot tamper with a skull or any bones, so they needed to reconstruct the skull. Using a cat scan, which is very common in hospitals, they were able to recreate the skull precisely and make a cast of it. Then they put small wooden pegs, based on anthropological data, to figure out what the muscle structure and the skin would look like, and so they layered that on using clay-like substances." 4

The result is shown in the left portrait above: a person with abroad peasant's face, dark olive skin, short curly hair and a prominent nose. His height would have been on the order of 5' 1"; he would have weighed about 110 pounds. Alison Galloway, professor of anthropology at the University of California in Santa Cruz , said that: "This {portrait} is probably a lot closer to the truth than the work of many great masters."

<snip>

Jean Claude Gragard, used the left image in his documentary "Son of God," which was broadcast by the British Broadcasting Commission in 2001. He said: "Using archaeological and anatomical science rather than artistic interpretation makes this the most accurate likeness ever created. It isn't the face of Jesus, because we're not working with the skull of Jesus, but it is the departure point for considering what Jesus would have looked like." They guessed at the length of Jesus' hair on the basis of the reference by Paul that "If a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him." They speculate that Paul would not have written this if Jesus Christ had had long hair?

More:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcfa.htm



What did Jesus smell like?

Jesus scented candles

An American couple have created a scented candle based on biblical accounts of what Jesus smells like.

Bob and Karen Tosterud, from South Dakota, were inspired by a verse that says when Jesus returns to Earth his robes will perfumed with myrrh, aloe and cassia.

<snip>

"I thought: "I wonder what that would smell like". It would have to be wonderful because of who they are representing. If you're not religious at all, it's just a subtle scent. I think it can be shared by all," she said.

The candles have proved to be a huge success with Christians and the His Essence range is being sold by Interior Plus, an American version of IKEA.

More:
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1371352.html



Anyway, I guess Jesus looked like this guy:


Cornel Wilde

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:31 AM
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10. Jesus smelled like BO.
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 10:33 AM by patrice
. . . . imgaine that.

What's our attitude toward any kind of BO today? That's a little strange isn't it?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 05:16 PM
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7. Jesus should look like the people who
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 05:17 PM by applegrove
get doubly screened at the airport. He never does.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:05 PM
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8. Is Jesus too buff ?


And people think atheists have issues ?

:rofl:
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 11:04 AM
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11. European culture depicts him as white
but he and especially the Madonna were depicted as black in the Middle Ages. Peoples always portray their God's as looking like them. There is nothing unusual about that. The historical Jesus was semitic, so likely looked North African.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:22 PM
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12. Jesus is just alright, oh ya is Jesus to much of a hippie? I think not
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gate of the sun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:57 PM
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13. he's too white
considering where he came from.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 08:04 AM
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14. Jesus could have looked like Yasser Arafat.
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musical_soul Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 12:03 AM
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15. Jesus is whatever color you make him.
I notice he's black in some black households.
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